Buy Shell, it's usually the best (better milage and least smoke, as a
rule, over my cars).
Other brands I don't have much experience with, since I almost always
buy my fuel at Shell or the local CountryMark. The latter is 5%
Biodiesel as a rule, and refined right down the road.
Peter
It does happen in the current USLD era, especially with truckers.
Diesel fuel in non-cold areas is rarely treated with anti-gel.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)
On 9/29/2013 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Used to hear stories of people fueling up in the south,
Probably just much better diesel fuel -- all those European engines
require 50 cetane, and in the good old days of cheap diesel, you were
very lucky if summer fuel in the US hit 30 cetane. Absolute crap --
that's why truckers always left their engines running, it was usually
impossible to
Gerry Archer wrote:
When he was first out of college, son drove a diesel (110) back and
forth, north to south, on his sales trips. He complained about hard
starting in the north if he fueled up in the south during the cold months.
Nowadays I suspect that mid-Florida, at least, gets winter fuel
So why does the same vehicle get better mileage with the good old higher
sulphur diesel that the ulsd nowadays?
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On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
Probably just much better diesel fuel -- all those European engines require
50 cetane,
Higher cetane index (ignitability) vs higher BTU content with lower
ignitability. I have not noticed much of a difference, but then I've
only been driving diesels for 17 years.
Diesel fuel varies in BTU content and cetane index much more than
gasoline, with quite a bit of it being fairly
Used to hear stories of people fueling up in the south, driving to the
north, and if they parked overnight without refueling up north first,
having gel problems.
For me it was west to east. (Coastal to inland.)
-- Jim
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Peter wrote:
...I have not noticed much of a difference, but then I've only
been driving diesels for 17 years.
...
All the good stuff goes to Europe, they won't buy the sludge.
...hmm... 25 years ago I was driving my first diesel 6.2 GM G30 rated
Beanville van. Beanville is what insco put on
Peter Frederick wrote:
Higher cetane index (ignitability) vs higher BTU content with lower
ignitability. I have not noticed much of a difference, but then I've
only been driving diesels for 17 years.
IIRC, a little bio is said to up the cetane and MPG, but B100 drops the mpg due
to lower
I don't think we get seasonally blended fuels here, as it never gets that cold.
Dan
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:06 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
D
an
wrote:
As the ambient temps drop
...
Perhaps change from summer to winter blend at the pump might affect
I don't think we get seasonally blended fuels here, as it never gets that
cold.
Here in Michigan, it all comes from the same pipeline, the difference
between brands is all in the additives, and all of it gets 10% alcohol
except for some rare and expensive boat and snowmobile fuel pumps.
What's
That is pretty much the point of top tier fuels. They pledge to meet specific
standards (which everyone has to anyway) but also provide additives to the base
stock that others do not.
In other words, it's pretty much the same fuel you get anywhere, but it has
additives that the manufacturers
Dan wrote:
I don't think we get seasonally blended fuels here, as it never gets that
cold.
The system is not going to apportion fuels by locale, I suggest. What
is the mpg difference between a winter or summer blend?
mao
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Mountain Man wrote:
Perhaps change from summer to winter blend at the pump might
affect your numbers this time of year also?
Dan wrote:
I don't think we get seasonally blended fuels here, as it never
gets that cold.
I believe even Florida gets winter blend diesel fuel.
But is
I'm talking about gasoline.
I don't think we get winter blended gasoline.
Dan
On Sep 28, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Fmiser wrote:
Mountain Man wrote:
Perhaps change from summer to winter blend at the pump might
affect your numbers this time of year also?
Dan wrote:
I don't think we get
Philip wrote:
But is Penoff talking about gasoline or diesel? I understood it to
be gasoline. And I suspect the other Dan is talking about diesel.
Or maybe I'm just lost and confused...
Not lost and confused.
Dan Dan are both talking about gasoline.
I posit that there is only one fuel
When he was first out of college, son drove a diesel (110) back and forth,
north to south, on his sales trips. He complained about hard starting in
the north if he fueled up in the south during the cold months.
Nowadays I suspect that mid-Florida, at least, gets winter fuel all year
round
Well, I now have three tanks of fuel from top tier suppliers (Mobil/Shell)
through my car, and while highly unscientific, I do appear to have picked up at
least a half a mile per gallon.
I will continue the experiment for a while to see if this gets better,
stabilizes, or deteriorates.
As the
D
an
wrote:
As the ambient temps drop
...
Perhaps change from summer to winter blend at the pump might affect your
numbers this time of year also?
mao
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Doesn't that drive them lower, not higher/better?
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)
On 9/27/2013 9:06 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Perhaps change from summer to winter blend at the pump might affect your
numbers this time of year also?
mao
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