Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yet again, I am impressed with the driving skills of the general public.

After watching this video, I am now fully committed to installing a siren
and lights on my vehicles.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 3:00 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anyone else run into issues after watching this video?
> My computer screen suddenly announced that it was locked up because I
> was on some site that was used for identity theft etc. It did not want
> to let me loose. I tired to shut that program down in task manager but
> it did not appear to be there so I flipped the switch on the back of the
> box.
> A subsequent start seems to indicate everything is OK.
> Fingers crossed.
>
> Randy
>
> On 03/05/2021 1:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> > More power, Scotty!
> > She's giving us all she's got, Captain!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OflawfmP5M
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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Anyone else run into issues after watching this video?
My computer screen suddenly announced that it was locked up because I 
was on some site that was used for identity theft etc. It did not want 
to let me loose. I tired to shut that program down in task manager but 
it did not appear to be there so I flipped the switch on the back of the 
box.

A subsequent start seems to indicate everything is OK.
Fingers crossed.

Randy

On 03/05/2021 1:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

More power, Scotty!
She's giving us all she's got, Captain!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OflawfmP5M

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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

More power, Scotty!
She's giving us all she's got, Captain!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OflawfmP5M

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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I have always struggled with backing a trailer.

Shorter is harder.  I was the best backer-upper in the family,
back on the farm.  I learned on the Farmall 200, which has the
tricycle configuration.  (The front wheels will turn completely
sideways.  Crank the wheel and stomp on one brake and spin
cookies in the driveway.  Not when dad's around...)  So there's a lot
you can do to correct when it starts to go wrong on a rig like that.
But, because the hitch is behind the axle the trailer's reacting too,
so it's not like it's cheating.  The high perch on that tractor meant
that you had perfect visibility, usually.

You figure it out, eventually.  The game always was to put the
trailer where you wanted it in one shot.  Backing around corners
inside the barn was the toughest.

The hardest backing job I think I've ever had is backing the wood
splitter behind the pickup.  Short, _short_ tongue length, squatty
little rig that you can't even see behind the tailgate, which has to be
up due to the short tongue length, and a long-cab long-bed truck.
Worst of all possible worlds.  One of those tennis balls on a stick
(magnet) things from Harbor Freight helps some.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 In the area I grew up around hay bales were hauled on big flatbed trucks 
loaded by high school kids much younger than the trucks.
For the home gamer a really good way to practice is with a garden cart behind a 
lawn tractor. The hitch is pretty sloppy so you get maximum delay, the lawn 
tractor probably doesn't steer particularly well so you need to be on the ball, 
oh and the hitch is short. If you can back one of those suckers up you've done 
something worth crowing about. It's actually hard to tell if its harder empty 
or loaded. Loaded you've got to have traction to shove the load around but 
empty the trailer will be bouncy and unpredictable...
-Curt

On Monday, May 3, 2021, 10:19:05 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 This.

(-D who backed a lot of hay wagons)

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If you learn by backing up hay wagons, everything else is easy.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 3, 2021, at 6:49 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My farming cousin, who has been reversing all manner of heavy equipment
>> since he was about 6, still holds the course record for reversing a semi
>> through the final test course at the Army transportation training center in
>> Cape May (I think). It was essentially reversing a semi truck through a
>> bunch of cones around curves, then up to a loading dock. Apparently he was
>> kind of amped up and just floored the truck down the whole course as fast
>> as it would go. He was in the national guard and his unit ended up going to
>> Iraq. Anyway you can always buy yourself a remote control semi truck. My
>> Dad brought one back from Germany when I was about 9, for Christmas. I
>> think that is how I figured out the basic dynamics.
>> 
>>> On Mon, May 3, 2021, 6:02 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is exactly correct. Put your hand on the bottom of the wheel and the
>>> bottom of the wheel goes where you want the back of the trailer to go. Use
>>> your mirrors or turn around and look out the back, either way. Makes it
>>> easy, no thinking involved.
>>> 
>>> My 96 Chebby truck has a large turning radius so it can be challenging to
>>> back a trailer. My 00  Suburban is much better in that regard. Both are 4wd
>>> but the Sub is not a solid axle.
>>> 
>>> My 16ft double axle trailer is fairly easy to back up as it is longer and
>>> doesn’t jackknife as easily as my 12(?)ft single axle I got with my little
>>> tractor. That thing DOES NOT like to be backed up as the short length from
>>> hitch to the deck snaps it quickly. The truck/trailer combo is challenging,
>>> a bit better with the Sub. I got a hitch thing for the 3pt lift on the
>>> tractor and even that is not real easy to back with.
>>> 
>>> Interestingly I learned about moving things right after high school when I
>>> worked at the airport pushing planes around with a tug and tow bar hooked
>>> to the nose wheel. I was having a real hard time until I thought about the
>>> dynamics a bit, figured that out, then BAM! it all fell into place. I was
>>> very good at it, the other guys were kind of amazed at how I picked it up.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 3, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 On 2021-05-03 02:48, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> If you can, look out the back window of the tow vehicle and focus on the
> rear of the trailer, then simply drive the rear of the trailer where you
> want it to go... Your eye hand coordination will happen better that way.
> You are "driving the trailer" instead of "backing up".
 
 For some people it helps to grab the bottom of the steering wheel and
>>> move it in the direction you want the trailer to go.
 
 Wagons are the opposite, move the top of the wheel where you want to
>>> turn the wagon, and go slow, don't let it get far out of line.
 
 Double wagons, I hate backing a wagon hitched to a wagon.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This.

(-D who backed a lot of hay wagons)

> On May 3, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If you learn by backing up hay wagons, everything else is easy.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 3, 2021, at 6:49 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My farming cousin, who has been reversing all manner of heavy equipment
>> since he was about 6, still holds the course record for reversing a semi
>> through the final test course at the Army transportation training center in
>> Cape May (I think). It was essentially reversing a semi truck through a
>> bunch of cones around curves, then up to a loading dock. Apparently he was
>> kind of amped up and just floored the truck down the whole course as fast
>> as it would go. He was in the national guard and his unit ended up going to
>> Iraq. Anyway you can always buy yourself a remote control semi truck. My
>> Dad brought one back from Germany when I was about 9, for Christmas. I
>> think that is how I figured out the basic dynamics.
>> 
>>> On Mon, May 3, 2021, 6:02 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is exactly correct. Put your hand on the bottom of the wheel and the
>>> bottom of the wheel goes where you want the back of the trailer to go. Use
>>> your mirrors or turn around and look out the back, either way. Makes it
>>> easy, no thinking involved.
>>> 
>>> My 96 Chebby truck has a large turning radius so it can be challenging to
>>> back a trailer. My 00  Suburban is much better in that regard. Both are 4wd
>>> but the Sub is not a solid axle.
>>> 
>>> My 16ft double axle trailer is fairly easy to back up as it is longer and
>>> doesn’t jackknife as easily as my 12(?)ft single axle I got with my little
>>> tractor. That thing DOES NOT like to be backed up as the short length from
>>> hitch to the deck snaps it quickly. The truck/trailer combo is challenging,
>>> a bit better with the Sub. I got a hitch thing for the 3pt lift on the
>>> tractor and even that is not real easy to back with.
>>> 
>>> Interestingly I learned about moving things right after high school when I
>>> worked at the airport pushing planes around with a tug and tow bar hooked
>>> to the nose wheel. I was having a real hard time until I thought about the
>>> dynamics a bit, figured that out, then BAM! it all fell into place. I was
>>> very good at it, the other guys were kind of amazed at how I picked it up.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 3, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 On 2021-05-03 02:48, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> If you can, look out the back window of the tow vehicle and focus on the
> rear of the trailer, then simply drive the rear of the trailer where you
> want it to go... Your eye hand coordination will happen better that way.
> You are "driving the trailer" instead of "backing up".
 
 For some people it helps to grab the bottom of the steering wheel and
>>> move it in the direction you want the trailer to go.
 
 Wagons are the opposite, move the top of the wheel where you want to
>>> turn the wagon, and go slow, don't let it get far out of line.
 
 Double wagons, I hate backing a wagon hitched to a wagon.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
If you learn by backing up hay wagons, everything else is easy.

AZBob

Sent from my iPad

> On May 3, 2021, at 6:49 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My farming cousin, who has been reversing all manner of heavy equipment
> since he was about 6, still holds the course record for reversing a semi
> through the final test course at the Army transportation training center in
> Cape May (I think). It was essentially reversing a semi truck through a
> bunch of cones around curves, then up to a loading dock. Apparently he was
> kind of amped up and just floored the truck down the whole course as fast
> as it would go. He was in the national guard and his unit ended up going to
> Iraq. Anyway you can always buy yourself a remote control semi truck. My
> Dad brought one back from Germany when I was about 9, for Christmas. I
> think that is how I figured out the basic dynamics.
> 
>> On Mon, May 3, 2021, 6:02 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is exactly correct. Put your hand on the bottom of the wheel and the
>> bottom of the wheel goes where you want the back of the trailer to go. Use
>> your mirrors or turn around and look out the back, either way. Makes it
>> easy, no thinking involved.
>> 
>> My 96 Chebby truck has a large turning radius so it can be challenging to
>> back a trailer. My 00  Suburban is much better in that regard. Both are 4wd
>> but the Sub is not a solid axle.
>> 
>> My 16ft double axle trailer is fairly easy to back up as it is longer and
>> doesn’t jackknife as easily as my 12(?)ft single axle I got with my little
>> tractor. That thing DOES NOT like to be backed up as the short length from
>> hitch to the deck snaps it quickly. The truck/trailer combo is challenging,
>> a bit better with the Sub. I got a hitch thing for the 3pt lift on the
>> tractor and even that is not real easy to back with.
>> 
>> Interestingly I learned about moving things right after high school when I
>> worked at the airport pushing planes around with a tug and tow bar hooked
>> to the nose wheel. I was having a real hard time until I thought about the
>> dynamics a bit, figured that out, then BAM! it all fell into place. I was
>> very good at it, the other guys were kind of amazed at how I picked it up.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2021-05-03 02:48, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
 If you can, look out the back window of the tow vehicle and focus on the
 rear of the trailer, then simply drive the rear of the trailer where you
 want it to go... Your eye hand coordination will happen better that way.
 You are "driving the trailer" instead of "backing up".
>>> 
>>> For some people it helps to grab the bottom of the steering wheel and
>> move it in the direction you want the trailer to go.
>>> 
>>> Wagons are the opposite, move the top of the wheel where you want to
>> turn the wagon, and go slow, don't let it get far out of line.
>>> 
>>> Double wagons, I hate backing a wagon hitched to a wagon.
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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Short trailers are really a pain. My snowmobile trailer is mostly invisible 
behind the truck, I can really only see the snowmobiles.
One trick my uncle gave me is to twist back and forth, in my case I go one way 
until I just spot the corner of the trailer, then cut back the other way before 
I'm in trouble. Backing up straight is hard, if you already figure you're going 
to take a snake path its easier.
-Curt

On Monday, May 3, 2021, 12:07:53 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I have always struggled with backing a trailer. Probably because I only
do it maybe once a year. My pop-up camper is the usual victim, and it is
pretty short also so I think that makes it harder. I've never backed a
5th wheel.

Allan

G Mann via Mercedes  writes:

> This is what will be my next trailer. I will have it built for 5th wheel
> instead of bumper pull [far superior for handling and backing up]. Also, I
> want 7,000 lb axles with 12 ply 16 inch tires, so will be a custom build
> order to get all that.
>
> This link has a video that shows how slick they are to load and unload.. a
> bit spendy, but very nice.
>
> https://maxxdtrailers.com/drop-n-load-trailers

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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
My farming cousin, who has been reversing all manner of heavy equipment
since he was about 6, still holds the course record for reversing a semi
through the final test course at the Army transportation training center in
Cape May (I think). It was essentially reversing a semi truck through a
bunch of cones around curves, then up to a loading dock. Apparently he was
kind of amped up and just floored the truck down the whole course as fast
as it would go. He was in the national guard and his unit ended up going to
Iraq. Anyway you can always buy yourself a remote control semi truck. My
Dad brought one back from Germany when I was about 9, for Christmas. I
think that is how I figured out the basic dynamics.

On Mon, May 3, 2021, 6:02 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is exactly correct. Put your hand on the bottom of the wheel and the
> bottom of the wheel goes where you want the back of the trailer to go. Use
> your mirrors or turn around and look out the back, either way. Makes it
> easy, no thinking involved.
>
> My 96 Chebby truck has a large turning radius so it can be challenging to
> back a trailer. My 00  Suburban is much better in that regard. Both are 4wd
> but the Sub is not a solid axle.
>
> My 16ft double axle trailer is fairly easy to back up as it is longer and
> doesn’t jackknife as easily as my 12(?)ft single axle I got with my little
> tractor. That thing DOES NOT like to be backed up as the short length from
> hitch to the deck snaps it quickly. The truck/trailer combo is challenging,
> a bit better with the Sub. I got a hitch thing for the 3pt lift on the
> tractor and even that is not real easy to back with.
>
> Interestingly I learned about moving things right after high school when I
> worked at the airport pushing planes around with a tug and tow bar hooked
> to the nose wheel. I was having a real hard time until I thought about the
> dynamics a bit, figured that out, then BAM! it all fell into place. I was
> very good at it, the other guys were kind of amazed at how I picked it up.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On May 3, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-05-03 02:48, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >> If you can, look out the back window of the tow vehicle and focus on the
> >> rear of the trailer, then simply drive the rear of the trailer where you
> >> want it to go... Your eye hand coordination will happen better that way.
> >> You are "driving the trailer" instead of "backing up".
> >
> > For some people it helps to grab the bottom of the steering wheel and
> move it in the direction you want the trailer to go.
> >
> > Wagons are the opposite, move the top of the wheel where you want to
> turn the wagon, and go slow, don't let it get far out of line.
> >
> > Double wagons, I hate backing a wagon hitched to a wagon.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
This is exactly correct. Put your hand on the bottom of the wheel and the 
bottom of the wheel goes where you want the back of the trailer to go. Use your 
mirrors or turn around and look out the back, either way. Makes it easy, no 
thinking involved. 

My 96 Chebby truck has a large turning radius so it can be challenging to back 
a trailer. My 00  Suburban is much better in that regard. Both are 4wd but the 
Sub is not a solid axle. 

My 16ft double axle trailer is fairly easy to back up as it is longer and 
doesn’t jackknife as easily as my 12(?)ft single axle I got with my little 
tractor. That thing DOES NOT like to be backed up as the short length from 
hitch to the deck snaps it quickly. The truck/trailer combo is challenging, a 
bit better with the Sub. I got a hitch thing for the 3pt lift on the tractor 
and even that is not real easy to back with. 

Interestingly I learned about moving things right after high school when I 
worked at the airport pushing planes around with a tug and tow bar hooked to 
the nose wheel. I was having a real hard time until I thought about the 
dynamics a bit, figured that out, then BAM! it all fell into place. I was very 
good at it, the other guys were kind of amazed at how I picked it up. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 3, 2021, at 7:39 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-05-03 02:48, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> If you can, look out the back window of the tow vehicle and focus on the
>> rear of the trailer, then simply drive the rear of the trailer where you
>> want it to go... Your eye hand coordination will happen better that way.
>> You are "driving the trailer" instead of "backing up".
> 
> For some people it helps to grab the bottom of the steering wheel and move it 
> in the direction you want the trailer to go.
> 
> Wagons are the opposite, move the top of the wheel where you want to turn the 
> wagon, and go slow, don't let it get far out of line.
> 
> Double wagons, I hate backing a wagon hitched to a wagon.
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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-05-03 02:48, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
If you can, look out the back window of the tow vehicle and focus on 
the
rear of the trailer, then simply drive the rear of the trailer where 
you
want it to go... Your eye hand coordination will happen better that 
way.

You are "driving the trailer" instead of "backing up".


For some people it helps to grab the bottom of the steering wheel and 
move it in the direction you want the trailer to go.


Wagons are the opposite, move the top of the wheel where you want to 
turn the wagon, and go slow, don't let it get far out of line.


Double wagons, I hate backing a wagon hitched to a wagon.

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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-02 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
If you can, look out the back window of the tow vehicle and focus on the
rear of the trailer, then simply drive the rear of the trailer where you
want it to go... Your eye hand coordination will happen better that way.
You are "driving the trailer" instead of "backing up".

If you are trying to do it by looking in your side mirrors, you will
quickly be challenged if you are just learning.

With a properly rigged 5th wheel, the trailer pivot point is just ahead of
the tow vehicle rear axle, so you get rid of the "lead / lag" of the
displacement with the bumper pull position.  Once you try it, you'll like
it.

Also, the heavier the load, with a 5th wheel, the trailer pulls much more
stable. Again, because of the leverage point of the hitch, relative to the
load balance of the tow vehicle with the trailer load attached.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have always struggled with backing a trailer. Probably because I only
> do it maybe once a year. My pop-up camper is the usual victim, and it is
> pretty short also so I think that makes it harder. I've never backed a
> 5th wheel.
>
> Allan
>
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > This is what will be my next trailer. I will have it built for 5th wheel
> > instead of bumper pull [far superior for handling and backing up]. Also,
> I
> > want 7,000 lb axles with 12 ply 16 inch tires, so will be a custom build
> > order to get all that.
> >
> > This link has a video that shows how slick they are to load and unload..
> a
> > bit spendy, but very nice.
> >
> > https://maxxdtrailers.com/drop-n-load-trailers
>
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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I have always struggled with backing a trailer. Probably because I only
do it maybe once a year. My pop-up camper is the usual victim, and it is
pretty short also so I think that makes it harder. I've never backed a
5th wheel.

Allan

G Mann via Mercedes  writes:

> This is what will be my next trailer. I will have it built for 5th wheel
> instead of bumper pull [far superior for handling and backing up]. Also, I
> want 7,000 lb axles with 12 ply 16 inch tires, so will be a custom build
> order to get all that.
>
> This link has a video that shows how slick they are to load and unload.. a
> bit spendy, but very nice.
>
> https://maxxdtrailers.com/drop-n-load-trailers

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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-02 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
This is what will be my next trailer. I will have it built for 5th wheel
instead of bumper pull [far superior for handling and backing up]. Also, I
want 7,000 lb axles with 12 ply 16 inch tires, so will be a custom build
order to get all that.

This link has a video that shows how slick they are to load and unload.. a
bit spendy, but very nice.

https://maxxdtrailers.com/drop-n-load-trailers

On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 8:53 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Anyway, I debated on keeping my trailer as you can never have too many
> > trailers, right?  I decided to go ahead and list it on Fakebook last
> > night and sold it today for $3500.  It is simply amazing how the cost of
> > these things has gone up over the years. Maybe I should have kept it and
> > was kind of sad to see it go.
>
> $1,500 cash in your pocket and you have a better trailer. What's to
> regret? Sounds like a great deal.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> Anyway, I debated on keeping my trailer as you can never have too many 
> trailers, right?  I decided to go ahead and list it on Fakebook last 
> night and sold it today for $3500.  It is simply amazing how the cost of 
> these things has gone up over the years. Maybe I should have kept it and 
> was kind of sad to see it go.

$1,500 cash in your pocket and you have a better trailer. What's to
regret? Sounds like a great deal.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> It is simply amazing how the cost of these [trailers] has gone up over the 
> years.

I looked for a long time to find my used wood-bottomed trailer, at $800.  It 
has side
rails and doesn't tilt.  Ramps store on the deck.  Pretty basic.  I welded a 
hand winch
to the front, for the occasional hulk.

Anyway, the original owner said he'd towed ONE car on it, and thereafter it was 
always
a hay trailer until he sold it to me.  I've hauled cars on it, and firewood.  
Neighbors have
hauled hay and miscellany.  I put on stake pockets and built a tinkertoy-style 
frame so
that it could be used as a parade float.  (Tarp roof, and waist-high side 
rails.)  I've used
it as a storage shed, in its float configuration but with a bigger tarp than 
usual...

Massively useful.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Trailers

2021-05-02 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Back in 2005 I bought my 18' steel floor car trailer brand new for 
either $1600 or $1800, can't remember which.  At the time wood floor 
trailers were either $1200 or $1400.  I used that that trailer to haul 
hundreds of cars over the years.  My buddy who is retiring sold me his 
car trailer yesterday for $2k.  It is a major upgrade as mine was a 
basic sort of trailer. This one has the chrome diamond plating all over, 
has a shield that bolts on the front, has a good mounting plate for a 
winch (comes with a removable winch), has all those running lights all 
over, the big deal it has the ramps that slide out the back rather than 
the ones that store in the side that you have to carry around to the 
back. Also has some fancy American Racing alloy wheelsI will need to do 
a minor amount of work to it, mainly just replacing the trailer 
connector as he had a 4 way flat plug which does not run the trailer 
brakes.  Need to replace that then see if the trailer brakes work.  I 
see trailers similar to it listed for something like $8k.


Anyway, I debated on keeping my trailer as you can never have too many 
trailers, right?  I decided to go ahead and list it on Fakebook last 
night and sold it today for $3500.  It is simply amazing how the cost of 
these things has gone up over the years. Maybe I should have kept it and 
was kind of sad to see it go. I have been on many towing adventures with 
that trailer.



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Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey

Regarding funky handling, how's the tongue weight?  You
generally want at least 10% of the weight on the tongue.
If it's too light things get mighty squirrelly.  There
is also something to do with the center of air pressure
(sail behavior) of your load versus the location of the
tires, but I don't remember what it is.  But generally
having the center of the load somewhat forward of the
tires satisfies all.

-- Jim



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