By way of an initial update:
Now that I've begun driving my routine commute once again (with the
Mobil 1 0W30 now installed) I've noticed: (and it's early on, but I'm
just so excited)
Less drag when "engine braking",
Easier than expected starting in chilly temps,
And - here's a confusing one -
Indeed it does. Thanks
Brian
83 240D
On 1/7/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:27:12 -0600 "Zoltan Finks"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am curious about this stuff - not trying to nit-pick, so indulge my
> further questioning if time allows.
>
> When you say
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:56:27 -0600 Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Diesel injection pumps usually default to full fuel delivery at start
> -- no need to put the pedal down, the pump is already set for wide
> open.
I don't have time to re-read the engine manual's section on how the
i
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 22:27:12 -0600 "Zoltan Finks"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am curious about this stuff - not trying to nit-pick, so indulge my
> further questioning if time allows.
>
> When you say that depressing the pedal determines how much fuel is
> delivered into the injection lines, I'
What is the reason that the user's manual, and some folks I've heard, say
that in cold weather, press pedal to floor once before running the starter?
I've heard the terminology "resetting the rack" regarding this.
Also, when it's cold, I know that you need to have that pedal down so that
when the
I am curious about this stuff - not trying to nit-pick, so indulge my
further questioning if time allows.
When you say that depressing the pedal determines how much fuel is delivered
into the injection lines, I'm assuming you mean the level that the pedal is
*held at during cranking*, not simply
Diesel injection pumps usually default to full fuel delivery at start
-- no need to put the pedal down, the pump is already set for wide
open.
Peter
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:46:48 -0600 "Zoltan Finks"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So it would follow that on a mechanical-injection engine, there is no
> preheating of fuel, and so any fuel that enters as a result of pumping
> is as cold as the fuel that enters without pumping.
>
> I'm assuming that
So it would follow that on a mechanical-injection engine, there is no
preheating of fuel, and so any fuel that enters as a result of pumping is as
cold as the fuel that enters without pumping.
I'm assuming that an 83 240D is a mechanical-injection engine.
And no, I'm still not an advocate of pum
LarryT wrote:
> I believe it happens like this - you turn the key, a spritz of fuel is
> injected to the proper cylinders, concurrently, the GPs start heating the
> prechamber or cylinder depending on model...
Actually, at least in a mechanical-injection engine, no fuel is going to
get spritzed
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Zoltan Finks wrote:
Yup. I know pumping is bad - my foot just wants to do it. I'ts like, come
on, baby, you can do it!
Yes, starting is an emotional thing with me ;) - nothing wo
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Yup. I know pumping is bad - my foot just wants to do it. I'ts like, come
> on, baby, you can do it!
>
> Yes, starting is an emotional thing with me ;) - nothing worse to me than
> the sound of the starter running slower and slower. Need to get over it -
On 1/6/07, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*One* pump before starting can be beneficial, though. ... On
carbureted engines it often sets the high idle cam.
Or the choke, on cars with carbs, no manual choke, and no thermostatically
operated automatic one.
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D
Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Yup. I know pumping is bad - my foot just wants to do it. I'ts like, come
> on, baby, you can do it!
I've been known to talk to the car to try to coax it into starting.
Probably about as effective as pumping, and less wear on the throttle
linkage. ;)
Repeated pumping doesn'
Yup. I know pumping is bad - my foot just wants to do it. I'ts like, come
on, baby, you can do it!
Yes, starting is an emotional thing with me ;) - nothing worse to me than
the sound of the starter running slower and slower. Need to get over it - I
know.
Brian
On 1/5/07, John W. Reames III <[E
YMMV on pumping, two winters ago SWMBO decided to pump while trying to
start and no dice. (She didnt kill the battery, just got annoyed). I
followed the procedure in the manual and joyfyul happyness.
-j.
urt
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:51:12 -0600
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Pershiate it.
Bria
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Pershiate it.
Brian
On 1/4/07, John W. Reames III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Thu, 4 Ja
Pershiate it.
Brian
On 1/4/07, John W. Reames III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Zoltan Finks wrote:
> By this do you mean press pedal all the way down and release, or press
pedal
> all the way down and hold there?
Above freezing:
Turn key to glow. wait for light to go out+
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Zoltan Finks wrote:
> By this do you mean press pedal all the way down and release, or press pedal
> all the way down and hold there?
Above freezing:
Turn key to glow. wait for light to go out+15 sec. Turn key to start. Hold
key in start until engine fires regularly. (Releas
By this do you mean press pedal all the way down and release, or press pedal
all the way down and hold there?
Brian
83 240D
John wrote:
I read once that theres a cold-start mechanism in the bosch IPs that we
use; if you press the pedal down (all the way) prior to starting cranking,
it actually
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, David Brodbeck wrote:
> It's also important to not release the key the first time the engine
> fires, like you would on a gasoline engine. Keep it turned until the
> engine is actually *running*. Otherwise it tends to fire once and then
> die. I don't remember what the Merced
Allan Streib wrote:
> Agree with "crank until it starts"...
Me too. A VW mechanic once told me he instructed his customers to crank
it until it starts or until it becomes clear it's not going to, because
if you stop and then try again, you've essentially started the process
all over again. In co
0D
was wearing on me. Then we bought the house so now I have somewhere to plug in
the car...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:51:18 -0600
From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Often, on my other car, if I have the time, I'll throw my small batt.
charger on and set it to "boost" as I crank, if it's particularly cold
outside, just to sort of keep the batt. from having to work so hard as
I
crank for a longer time. Of course I cringe, hoping the batt. won't
explode.
Bew
Indeed, maybe a spark introduced into the whole mix can be the cause in the
case of bursting or exploding upon start attempt.
Brian
On 1/2/07, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Levi Smith wrote:
> I would have thought it more likely to be a spark in the vicinity during
one
> of those
Levi Smith wrote:
> I would have thought it more likely to be a spark in the vicinity during one
> of those charging times that caused the explosion? I wasn't aware that
> under "normal" circumstances you could blow up a battery simply by charging
> it... Or maybe it was possible with older batte
I would have thought it more likely to be a spark in the vicinity during one
of those charging times that caused the explosion? I wasn't aware that
under "normal" circumstances you could blow up a battery simply by charging
it... Or maybe it was possible with older batteries?
Levi
On 1/2/07, Z
Ha. No, hopefully I'd have learned by now if I had.
I've seen, or at least heard, two or three batterties explode when I worked
at at service station. I think the cause was leaving them on a somewhat
rapid charge for too long with the caps still on. And I think once I saw one
explode from crankin
Have you had a lot of batteries explode?
Levi (:
Still wondering if there's any hope for his Red top Optima that seems to
just continually draw as much power as you put in it (sucked 5 amps for
about 3 days straight before I disconnected it).
On 1/2/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That's interesting about the battery. Did it not sound differently - I mean,
the starter didn't audibly sound slower? Maybe it was the "frog in the
kettle" syndrome.
Encouraging that starts are possible in those temps without a block heater.
My 240D seems to need glow plugs right now - wouldn't s
just didn't have the capacity needed.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:29:56 -0500 (EST)
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My old 84 300SD (~200K at crunching) was regularly started at 24 without
plugging in and at 14 once or twice.
The 1985 300D use to have issues, but I found that I had a subtly failed
GP relay (it lit the light but did not really work). Apparently water had
wicked up under the cover, then past
I've been using Mobil 1 0w40 for the last five winters. I change to M1
15w40 for the summers. I live in Northern IL. My 83 300D has 192, 000 mi. on
it, and I've put about half of these miles on as the second owner. When I got
the MB even after valve adjustments, gp changes, etc., I had t
costs more than you could possibly save by
> skimping on
> oil or using the wrong viscosity.
>
> Werner (sorry to keep this going)
> '90 300D
> '83 300SD
> '87 F150
>
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> Not that I haven't taken heed of all the posts on this, but to my brain
at
> least, the following excerpts (below) seem to m
ore than you could possibly save by skimping on
oil or using the wrong viscosity.
Werner (sorry to keep this going)
'90 300D
'83 300SD
'87 F150
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Not that I haven't taken heed of all the posts on this, but to my brain at
least, the following excerpts (below) seem to make sense to me, and here's
why:
If there were no difference (negative) in using 0W Mobil 1, why doesn't
everyone run it, and thus receive the (claimed on the bottle) benefits
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