Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Canfield
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question Mike Canfield wrote: WVO will flow to the pump but it will not go through the nozzle unless heated just before the nozzle with an inline electric heater. And you can't just

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
Find out who the company is, call them up and ask about purchasing a couple hundred gallons of WVO. When they're ready to talk, find out what they do to the oil after they collect it from the food bin. If they say nothing or something similar, that's illegal to sell. I believe (haven't seen

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread archer
That sounds like a good idea. They might deliver it, cleaned and filtered, in quantity; and that would still be cheaper than diesel. Gerry - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find out who the company is, call them up and ask about purchasing a couple hundred

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
cept cleaned and filterd is illegal On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:15:54 -0500, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That sounds like a good idea. They might deliver it, cleaned and filtered, in quantity; and that would still be cheaper than diesel. Gerry - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread Mike Canfield
Not with bioD. WVO yes. BioD is the same viscosity as DinoD. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question Homepower had an article some time ago about burning

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread Mike Canfield
@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question On a related note, shouldn't you also be able to add your waste engine and transmission oils to the mix? btw: Our local fuel oil vendor sells a B20 blend for the home heating oil market. On 8/18/06, Dave Wakin

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread Mike Canfield
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question Curt Raymond wrote: I've sure thought about it, I presume the need to heat the oil would still be there to get the correct spray pattern and not put as much load on the internal pump. Good point. Maybe a heat exchanger in the flue? Or maybe a water

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread Mike Canfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question Zeitgeist wrote: On a related note, shouldn't you also be able to add your waste engine and transmission oils to the mix? I wouldn't recommend

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread archer
The cooks didn't know the name of the company that picked up the waste oil from the tanks and the traps. Next time I'm over there I'll ask one of the owners. A Tampa internet search found this: Griffin Industries is a forerunner and innovator in waste cooking oil collection and recycling.

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Mike Canfield wrote: WVO will flow to the pump but it will not go through the nozzle unless heated just before the nozzle with an inline electric heater. And you can't just replace a 3/4 gph nozzle with a 1.5gph nozzle? Would that make it atomize poorly? The idea of burning it in an old VW

[MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread Dave Wakin
I live in upstate NY, and burn fuel oil all winter long to keep warm - can I use vegtable oil in my furnace? Or better yet, used fryer oil? Dave W

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread Levi Smith
Sure. BUt not that simply. If you have a spare furnace and/or know what you're doing it can be done with varying degrees of success and or work prior/during it's use. Personally I'm in the same situation, but I don't know enough about my furnace that I feel comfortable with it and everything

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Dave Wakin wrote: I live in upstate NY, and burn fuel oil all winter long to keep warm - can I use vegtable oil in my furnace? Or better yet, used fryer oil? Burner nozzles are cheap. You'll need an indoor oil tank, or it will freeze solid outdoors. The glycerine might gum up the heat

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I've sure thought about it, I presume the need to heat the oil would still be there to get the correct spray pattern and not put as much load on the internal pump. Good point. Maybe a heat exchanger in the flue? Or maybe a water heater between the storage tank and

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread David Brodbeck
Zeitgeist wrote: On a related note, shouldn't you also be able to add your waste engine and transmission oils to the mix? I wouldn't recommend it. Engine oil has a lot of stuff in it that doesn't burn and makes copious amounts of ash.

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread Trampas
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question Curt Raymond wrote: I've sure thought about it, I presume the need to heat the oil

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread dave walton
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altfuelfurnace/ Harbor Freight sells a 12V car heater ($7 on sale) that uses PTC elements that will heat the oil to ~350F. Just about right for a nozzle heater. You could go for the whole-monte and burn the WVO in a diesel generator and use both the heat and the

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 12:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question Zeitgeist wrote: On a related note, shouldn't you also be able to add your waste engine and transmission oils to the mix? I wouldn't recommend

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Curt wrote: I've sure thought about it, I presume the need to heat the oil would still be there to get the correct spray pattern and not put as much load on the internal pump. If you have a water heater, it should be pretty easy to set up a system to heat the fuel

Re: [MBZ] Vegtable Oil Question

2006-08-18 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
I'd be a bit shy to add more than a few qts to a 55 gal drum while filtering ( which I do sometimes ) but I wouldn't want to add much more on these engines. That said, a bunch of the guys with the big IDI truck diesels run WMO ( waste motor oil )all the time and love the daylights out of it,