Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Sounds like somebody needs to learn how to rebuild his suspension. Would be easier than convincing everybody with functional suspensions that their cars are unsafe. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsu

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Their opinions do not conform to my experience. I had the OM603 SDL running at 80 mph through MT on I-90 and I-94 to cross the state with no issue, other than a 3am blizzard that was tossing other cars into the median and ditches. The OM617 in the SD only got lead footed to 80 for long stretch

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2021-12-30 17:19, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Wow, so the time I drove my (formerly Dwight's) '78 240D from Albany to Syracuse with my foot on the floor the car was running away the whole time? That's crazy... /s My brother's worn out Rabbit would run away if you wound it out to the go

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I drove a Detroit fire engine in the 90's. No choice but to push it hard dn then idle at the scene. They held up pretty well. Allison C4 trannies. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 5:21 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not really, a Detroit w

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes that is myth. I drove my 240D commuting 140 miles RT for 2 or 3 days a week for 3 years. Ran middle lane on 3 lanes in MA. Ran it about 80-. In MA the left lane is 85-90. Had 300K on it when I sold it. Needed blower and body work. Engine and trans had M1 only.. My Dad was a truck driver in the

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I always heard never lug a Detroit, and never over-rev one. There is like a 500RPM "happy" range (I may be exaggerating a bit). Never driven one though. On Thu, Dec 30, 2021, at 5:20 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Not really, a Detroit wants to be run hard. It's idling the destroys them. > There

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The Mustang II was a crime against humanity. Whoever okayed that design should have been flogged in the center of Detroit. Same with the new electric Mustang SUV thing. Doesn't tick any of the boxes that say "Mustang is cool because". I figure the design discussion went "People like Mustangs, p

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Not really, a Detroit wants to be run hard. It's idling the destroys them. There are so many in marine use if they ran away from running hard there would be a lot more dead boats... -Curt On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 03:57:14 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Foot to the

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wow, so the time I drove my (formerly Dwight's) '78 240D from Albany to Syracuse with my foot on the floor the car was running away the whole time? That's crazy... /s -Curt On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 02:39:59 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: A 123 isn't designed to run at

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
One of my wife's cousins had a Mustang II in the early 70's in Chicago. He went over a railway crossing and ripped the front crossmember out of the car. Totaled! He replaced it with a Pontiac Fire Chicken. Randy On 30/12/2021 3:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I remember when I was in

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I remember when I was in college my buddy and I took his dad's sedan out, this would have been like a 74 or something, I don't recall which model but it might have been a diesel. Anyway we were out  and he was driving quite spiritedly, and we were going down this road with a RR crossing that wa

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
The Mercedes suspension isn't designed for that kind of speed. That's why a US car will break your teeth if you hit a RR crossing at 60mph while a W116 or W123 just gobbles it up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/a

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
There is only so much time I can allocate to pointing out this idiot’s fallacies. Good job summarizing. -D > On Dec 30, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > My favorite > > "The S class gassers (think Euro 500SEL) etc we're designed for the autobahn, > but not in their

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Foot to the floor for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most diesels. Confusing a Mercedes OM with a Detroit Diesel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: h

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
My favorite "The S class gassers (think Euro 500SEL) etc we're designed for the autobahn, but not in their US form, as they are too unstable at speed. Foot to the floor for hours on end will buy you a runaway on most diesels." A 560SEC. Unstable at speed. A 560SE. Unstable at speed. A 300D turb

Re: [MBZ] Why Do I Bother?

2021-12-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I have sometimes wondered if that is why the throttle is responsive over its entire range of travel, unlike many gassers where 90% of the throttle response seems to be in the first 25% of throttle travel and it doesn't seem to have much effect beyond that. Note that I've never driven a modern MB