Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-08 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 09:01:50PM -0400, John Ervine wrote: Then you've got a great winter car! x-D Winter? I live in california. About all I need is a defroster to deal with the windshield getting fogged up. Seriously, though, should I send you 83-605 of the service manual so you and your

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote: Is the defrost only mode a failure mode of the servo, so it's worth me trying the junkyard one, or is defrost only more likely something else, and I should just replace the leaky hose? If you lose electric power to the servo, it should open the water valve and the defroster

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the question though. His car only has working front defrost, none of the other buttons do anything. I have a spare servo from a junkyard that I picked up several months ago. Is the defrost only mode a failure mode of the servo, so it's worth me trying the

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:11:14PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: Is the defrost only mode a failure mode of the servo, so it's worth me trying the junkyard one, or is defrost only more likely something else, and I should just replace the leaky hose? If you lose electric power to the servo,

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:16:16PM -0400, Steve MacSween wrote: Defrost only is a general fail-safe mode for the system... could be the temp selector wheel, the pushbutton panel, or the amplifer unit as well. A quick check for the servo is to listen carefully (from outside the car) when you

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Joe Knight
IIRC, it should also move *from* the park position when you turn the key on before starting. I've posted some servo related diagnostic stuff at http://my.sanbrunocable.com/joeknight/. joe On 8/4/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:16:16PM -0400, Steve MacSween wrote:

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread John Ervine
Kevin wrote: When the defroster is on, it puts out full heat, irregardless of the position on the wheel. Then the defrost button is behaving as per normal - max blower, max heat, independent of thumb wheel position. What happens if you hit defrost after starting the car, then wait 10

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread John Ervine
Kevin wrote: The defrost turns off, and that's it. No vents changing, no fan, might as well have pushed the off button. Then you've got a great winter car! x-D Seriously, though, should I send you 83-605 of the service manual so you and your friend can go cross-eyed staring at electrical

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being the case, let me elaborate on the symptoms. The only position on the pushbutton array that actually does anything is the defrost. All other buttons behave like 'off', with the possible exception of the A/C switch - there is no belt on the A/C, so we

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Brunnhilde has the same problem. It doesn't really get cold enough here to worry much about heat, the defrost warms things up when needed, so I have not spent much time on this (when it's high 90s, its definitely not an issue). I will be interested to see what sorts out with your car then

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Dan Sandy Steadman
, August 04, 2005 6:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question So my brother's 78 300D has a water leak in one of the hoses that connects the climate control servo to itself. No real big deal, I can replace hoses. Here's the question though. His car only has working front defrost

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Joe Knight
Bravo, Dan! Where the heck were you when I was tearing what little hair I have left over this stuff? joe

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Joe Knight
One more little thing. The rubber vacuum manifold on the servo is retained by a small screw that's kind of hard to see. If you remove the manifold you'll have better access to check the condition of the small rubber vacuum connectors to the vacuum lines. joe

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Dan Sandy Steadman
, August 04, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question Bravo, Dan! Where the heck were you when I was tearing what little hair I have left over this stuff? joe ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Joe Knight
One question, Dan. I noticed that you stated that the motor should only be run momentarily when jumpered. Why is this? During my little stint in purgatory diagnosing and repairing a misbehaving gear assembly -details in the text file on the website- I had to put the thing thru its paces pretty

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread Dan Sandy Steadman
(like me). Dan - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question One question, Dan. I noticed that you stated that the motor should only

Re: [MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-05 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 8/4/2005 3:52:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's the question though. His car only has working front defrost, none of the other buttons do anything. I have a spare servo from a junkyard that I picked up several months ago. Is the

[MBZ] another 123 climate control question

2005-08-04 Thread Kevin
So my brother's 78 300D has a water leak in one of the hoses that connects the climate control servo to itself. No real big deal, I can replace hoses. Here's the question though. His car only has working front defrost, none of the other buttons do anything. I have a spare servo from a junkyard