The pills Hendrik, take the pills...
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:46:49 +1030
From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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changing the oil every 10,000 miles (analysis says its safe)
will result in even LESS wear...
-Curt
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:00:28 -0800 (PST)
From: EDWARD DENNIS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
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You obviously have not been paying attention have you, the problem is
that the oil pump takes a few seconds to prime and during this time
there is no oil circulating. If you leave the car overnight more oil
will drain off the internals and leave them exposed to harsh metal on
metal action.
Here's a basic question I need answered: Warning - this post may
contain offensive material such as the o word.
I am about to change the oil in the 190D. The engine has not been
started for several days. In terms of getting the maximum oil drained,
am I better off starting the engine and letting
Oh, and no - I am not prepared to suck the oil out - thanks.
Brian
On 11/25/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a basic question I need answered: Warning - this post may
contain offensive material such as the o word.
I am about to change the oil in the 190D. The engine has not
For about 40 years now I've been draining my oil cold, after car sits
overnight.. My theory is that all of the oil went to the pan after
last hot shut-down.
I pull the plug, go in the house and demand breakfast from my Kitchen
Wench.
After 1 hour I go out, the dripping has stopped, I replace
Zoltan Finks wrote:
I am about to change the oil in the 190D. The engine has not been
started for several days. In terms of getting the maximum oil drained,
am I better off starting the engine and letting it warm, (as
conventional wisdom dictates), or am I better off just pulling the
plug and
The theory behind the hot drain is that all the little particles of
nastiness are suspended in the oil and most get flushed out, whereas the
cold method has a drawback in which the particles settle on the bottom
of the pan and in other places around the engine.
I'll stick with the manufacturer
Never saw a Manufacture's Recommendation on this. Can you quote
source?
Of course a dealer will change warm, he moves the cold car off the lot
into his shop and drains it. Would you really pay a dealer to get the
car hot at $75/hr.? I think not.
Pete
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:04:42 +1030,
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From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:44 PM
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: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
Never saw a Manufacture's Recommendation on this. Can you quote
source?
Of course a dealer will change warm, he moves the cold car off the lot
into his shop and drains it. Would you really pay a dealer to get the
car hot at $75/hr.? I think not.
Pete
On Mon
:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
Never saw a Manufacture's Recommendation on this. Can you quote
source?
Of course a dealer will change warm, he moves the cold car off the lot
into his shop and drains it. Would you really pay a dealer to get the
car hot at $75/hr.? I think
://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
Never saw a Manufacture's Recommendation on this. Can you quote
Topsider at the time I was living in an
apartment and didn't have anywhere to plug in a vac. Now I run my shopvac to
the topsider rather than pumping a million times...
-Curt
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:08:50 -0500
From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
in the engine (soot maybe?)
should be at its best suspension and easiest to get out. Thats the theory
anyway.
In practice I strongly suspect it doesn't matter.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:04:17 -0800 (PST)
From: EDWARD DENNIS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
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and easiest to get out. Thats the theory
anyway.
In practice I strongly suspect it doesn't matter.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:04:17 -0800 (PST)
From: EDWARD DENNIS
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The theory holds true if you drain the oil, change the filter, fill with
new oil and start the motor. The theory is that the engine internals
still have a coating on them to give some protection while the oil pump
primes. Next time you change your oil see how long it takes for oil
pressure to
to get out. Thats the theory
anyway.
In practice I strongly suspect it doesn't matter.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:04:17 -0800 (PST)
From: EDWARD DENNIS
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Don't know about that but I have read that turning over the engine until
oil pressure rises is better, easy to do on an petrol motor but a bit
more difficult on a Diesel.
archer wrote:
Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine via
auxiliary pumps before they start
OK Brian - slap your hand and wash your mouth out with soap for using
tho word on the list!!!
My recommendation depends on the temp where the car is - if it's below
50F, I'd warm it up a bit (unless it is Mobil 1) - note that that is
an entirely arbitrary temp.
On Nov 25, 2007 8:05 PM, Hendrik
archer wrote:
Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine via
auxiliary pumps before they start the engine. It would be interesting to
have that option on an MB diesel just to see if the engine lasted longer
than usual.
Get a pressure accumulator, capacity of at
Good idea -- here are some samples.
http://www.thinkauto.com/accumulators.htm
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?form_cat_id=102,675action=category
Get a pressure accumulator, capacity of at least a pint, better yet a quart,
and tee it into the oil pressure sensor fitting on the engine. Put a
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:42:27 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
archer wrote:
Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine
via auxiliary pumps before they start the engine. It would be
interesting to have that option on an MB diesel just to see if the
archer wrote:
Large engines (ships, power plants, etc.) pump oil through the engine via
auxiliary pumps before they start the engine. It would be interesting to
have that option on an MB diesel just to see if the engine lasted longer
than usual.
Get a pressure accumulator, capacity of at
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