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Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve seals
Does anybody have part numbers for the o rings and copper washers for delivery
valves? This is for a 606 but I assume the 603 is the same? Getting ready to
put
Does anybody have part numbers for the o rings and copper washers for delivery
valves? This is for a 606 but I assume the 603 is the same? Getting ready to
put in an order.
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I was able to get the delivery valve seals and springs on our
'82 240D/3.0 replaced this afternoon. The only problem I had was
noticing after installing the #1 and #2 injection lines that I
had not installed the keepers that keep the delivery valve holders
from turning. Oops. I had to use a small
A new center carrier bearing and mount should fix the vibration.
Transmission mount usually causes vibration under load as that lifts
the output shaft, but it's also possible for the mount to be bad.
Glad the delivery valve repair went well -- I need to order new seals
and do mine, I have
I think center suppirt bearing is good guess. Both of my 240D's had to
have them replaced.must be the excessive torque from the OM 616 engine.
On Oct 26, 2013 10:46 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
I was able to get the delivery valve seals and springs on our
'82 240D/3.0 replaced this
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:20:22 -0400 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
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I think center suppirt bearing is good guess. Both of my 240D's had to
have them replaced.must be the excessive torque from the OM 616 engine.
Well, my 240D has an OM617 engine, so it's no wonder!
Craig
Oh that explains excessive torque. Turbo or NA?
On Oct 26, 2013 11:25 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:20:22 -0400 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think center suppirt bearing is good guess. Both of my 240D's had to
have them replaced.must be the
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:37:42 -0400 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Oh that explains excessive torque. Turbo or NA?
OM617.912, naturally aspirated.
Craig
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Finally have the parts for the DV seals, got everything apart, took out the
first one and came in to check orientation and tension before I put it back
together. So far so good. I did have to run out and buy a T30 torx bit, I was
sure I had one...
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The barrel is the round piece down in the bore that holds the little dv
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On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:53 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Not sure what you mean buy barrel, but on every pump I've done, I remove
the splined DV holder (which has the o-ring), the
to mention it...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:33:41 -0500
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Don't use a magnetic screw driver to grab the copper o ring and you will
be fine. If you do the magnet could also grab the barrel and pull it out
as well
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On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:55 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
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Nothing to worry
Use a pick to R R the copper ring. Don't ever touch the barrel
with anything. Use the pick to center the DV and copper seal.
Use surgical gloves. Don't touch the spring with anything but the
pick or clean surgical gloves. (Fuel on the gloves is ok)
You don't need a screwdriver for any
copper. ;)
Wilton
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Don't use a magnetic screw driver to grab the copper o ring and you
Agreed - mechanically not magnetically. ;)
Wilton
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If you are using a magnetic screw
2012 10:33:41 -0500
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So he got
Delivery valves or just the o-rings that keep fuel from leaking out?
Delivery valves, that would be rare.
Peter
Orings sealing the DV union to the IP body.
Again, Kaleb is right. I have had to replace the orings on EVERY 603
I have owned, and that means EVERY OM60x I have owned. That is
The seals are the copper crush rings... I suspect they wouldn't go bad if left
untouched. The rubber o-rings, on the other hand, go bad, as frequently as
every 50-60k miles, especially with the ULSD and/or bio.
I do view metal sealing rings as single-use, as they do deform and work-harden,
so
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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Subject: [MBZ] Delivery valve seals?
Been smelling diesel on my '84 190D for a couple weeks. Usually its at idle,
never when cruising down the highway so
The seals are the copper crush rings... I suspect they wouldn't go
bad if left untouched. The rubber o-rings, on the other hand, go
bad, as frequently as every 50-60k miles, especially with the ULSD
and/or bio.
I do view metal sealing rings as single-use, as they do deform and
work-harden,
it. He
did the one in my car about a year ago and its making noise again...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 04:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve
: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 04:57:20 -0700 (PDT)
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or 6 'O' rings so that you will only need 4.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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So it seems like
So it seems like consensus is to do this myself. I'm glad to hear so
many others have gone before me.
I'll also need seals for the intake manifold yes?
not unless you want the manifold off to do glow plugs or something
else. There IS better access if the manifold is out of the way.
I need
Curt.
The delivery valve holders ( the serrated vertical tube under the
injector line nut at the IP ) are simple to remove with the correct
socket, see Dimitri.
FIRST clean the top of the IP to white glove inspection state, then
remove the injector lines. Remove the locking plates. Clean
Very common delivery valve seal issue. Two or three seals swap out. Fairly
simple job and should not cost that much. seals are all of $1 each DV. It is
pretty touchy on one of the seals to make sure it seats properly and delicate
getting the valve back in right.
clay
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Curt.
The delivery valve holders ( the serrated
Lube the o-rings with whatever is handy. Engine oil, atf, diesel fuel, bearing
grease (sparingly).
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'87 300TD
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I did my DVs last year and for the 1st few hundred miles the engine was
pretty noisey. Now, it's extremelyquiet! I actually got out to see
how loud it was last week! I replaced the springs, washers, etc. because
I had a leak
LarryT
91 300D
On 10/19/2012 1:05 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
So
I think that I did a 606 writeup, sans photos.
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On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:26, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
The seals are the copper crush rings... I suspect they wouldn't go bad if
left untouched. The rubber
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Why yes I can
Larry, I thought put the old springs back because you didn't like how loud it
was with the new springs? Guess I miss-remembered that one...
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Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:
I did my DVs last year and for the 1st few hundred miles the engine
I used Diesel Purge to lube the o-rings. I left the spring on the DVs in
the pump - no problems. Do them one at a time, then you have no issues with
keeping them straight and going back in the right holes.
Yes, once you pull the intake filter box, you'll have plenty of room in the
201 to do the
2012 16:40:39 -0400
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I think that I did a 606 writeup, sans photos
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So he got the barrel out and put it back in wrong. Very simple there are little
pins that stick into the bore to hold them in the correct
Finally found the picture that makes this procedure make sense to me:
http://www.mercedessource.com/node/2615
I couldn't picture where the o-ring was. For some reason I thought the splined
bit was a cap like on a flare fitting...
Other than worrying about having the engine run away I'm ready. Q
9:34 PM
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I found a writeup on the Peach:
http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/OM606DeliveryValveSeals
Ordered everything but the intake manifold gasket from Q today. That includes
the spring. It was ~$40 but I got 2 extra o-rings and copper washers.
Now
I found a writeup on the Peach:
http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/OM606DeliveryValveSeals
Ordered everything but the intake manifold gasket from Q today. That
includes the spring. It was ~$40 but I got 2 extra o-rings and
copper washers.
Now to catch up with Dimitri...
-Curt
Curt, you can
Now to catch up with Dimitri...
-Curt
John's writeup, Marshall's comment, followed by mine. All min have
been/are OM603.
you will need to ignore a lot of the early instruction, as it is 606 only
Applies to OM606 W210.025/OM606.962 delivery valves. Most should
apply to OM603
A few
You won't have any trouble so long as you don't do anything but remove
the splined holder and replace the o-ring and copper seal. Leave
everything else alone, making sure you put the spring where it belongs
if it sticks in the holder and comes out.
NEVER move the barrel, there is no
Not sure what you mean buy barrel, but on every pump I've done, I remove the
splined DV holder (which has the o-ring), the copper seal (replace), the spring
(replace), and usually the part immediately below the spring, because it likes
to come out with the spring. Never had any problems with
happening?
Nobody else seems to mention it...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:33:41 -0500
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
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Been smelling diesel on my '84 190D for a couple weeks. Usually its at idle,
never when cruising down the highway so I'd replaced the injector return lines
which made no difference. Tonight when I got home from California I took some
time to look again. I found the top of the IP a little wet so
If you had to spend 1k to fix this you need a new mechanic
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On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Been smelling diesel on my '84 190D for a couple weeks. Usually its at idle,
never when cruising down the highway so I'd replaced the injector
It is the orings on the DV union. Don't waste time trying to
tighten. it is caused by old rotten orings, and an attempt to
tighten will likely make it worse. I have posted several times, the
instructions based on (sorry I forgot) who wrote up the job on a 606.
I have added some things to
On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
I wish Marshall were still around, he'd know more about it.
You asked
Here is a couple write ups from
AM Booth on the subject...
Delivery valve seals will NOT fix a problem with idle speed adjustment
Replacing
You have leaking o-rings, but you have to remove the delivery valve
holder to replace them. Best to use a new copper seal, keepi it
clean, and torque correctly, else you get leaking seals when you re-
install them..
The symptoms of leaking seals are rough idle, knock on the affected
Right if somebody racked up a bill that big for this job they are either a
crook or incompetent. You can have the whole pump rebuit cheaper than that
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On Oct 18, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
It is the orings on the DV union. Don't waste time
As usually Marshall is wrong. Just about every pump I come across needs the
seals replaced at some point
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On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
I wish Marshall were
Delivery valves or just the o-rings that keep fuel from leaking out?
Delivery valves, that would be rare.
Peter
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On Oct 18, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
Delivery valves or just the o-rings that keep fuel from leaking out?
Delivery valves, that would be rare.
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Been smelling diesel on my '84 190D for a couple weeks. Usually its at idle,
never when cruising down the highway so I'd replaced the injector return lines
which made no difference. Tonight
I've paid to have this done once, but since then I've done the job myself three
times. Each time I replaced all the o-rings, copper seals, and twice I also
replaced the springs. The new springs were slightly longer than the old.
Larry in VA did this on his 2.5 turbo, replaced the springs, and
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I have several cars I need to do delivery valve seals
I have several cars I need to do delivery valve seals on.
Starting with a 84 190D. I have that one tore all the way down
to removing the pump elements and will finish that tomorrow. All
I have on hand right now is the rubber o rings. Is there anything
else I need while I am at it. I seem
I hope so as well. I'm guessing that you do have the many splined socket for
the job?
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
I have several cars I need to do delivery valve seals on. Starting with a
84 190D. I have that one tore all the way down to
You should get the copper seals, as the old ones usually don't re-
seal all that well. Better to wait and get new seals than do the job
twice.
Peter
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yea i got yhat
On 4/16/2011 9:01 PM, OK Don wrote:
I hope so as well. I'm guessing that you do have the many splined socket for
the job?
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.netwrote:
I have several cars I need to do delivery valve seals on. Starting with a
84
seems like I did order the copper seals once too, I need to find
all that stuff.
On 4/16/2011 9:05 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
You should get the copper seals, as the old ones usually don't
re-seal all that well. Better to wait and get new seals than do
the job twice.
Peter
I change the DV springs, the copper washers and the orings.
I put the socket, the orings springs, copper washers, and the plastic
clips for the injection lines all in one box, because when I need
one, I need them all.
Kinda like keeping the mityVac, vacuum Ts, plugs, line, etc all
together
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