Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator

2015-02-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not as racy as the book, apparently

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew wrote:
  50 shades of black?

 Did anyone see that movie?
 I heard that it is quite racey?
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator

2015-02-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote:
 50 shades of black?

Did anyone see that movie?
I heard that it is quite racey?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator

2015-02-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Took a quick look at my Omre machine yesterday. It has a two section tubular 
electrolytic that drives the pump. It's strapped to the side of the case, so I 
couldn't see the value of the cap.

Mine seems to work fine from what I can tell, so I'm not in any hurry to mess 
with it. I may get bold and loosen the clamp on the cap so I can slide it out a 
bit and get the values off of it some day.  I expect I can get a replacement 
from DigiKey or Mouser without too much effort.

My pump looks brand new, and the inside of the machine appears to be the same, 
so I have no reason to believe the pump is cruddy inside.

Dan

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 On Feb 13, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I don't think the pumps run on a rheostat
 
 here's a rebuild tutorial
 
 http://www.instructables.com/id/Rebuilding-an-ULKA-Vibratory-Pump-Espresso-machin/
 
 i've never had luck at repairing them
 
 here's another set of links
 
 http://ulkapumprepair.blogspot.com/
 
 the ulna is the one in the machines i use, i think
 
 they can be bought relatively cheaply if you shop
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
 
 
 On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:34 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Espresso
 Date: February 12, 2015 7:45:20 PM EST
 To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com, Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 
 Dan wrote:
 Interesting. I think mine is the same way. Maybe the caps(s) for the pump 
 are old and should be replaced?
 
 I may take a look at mine this weekend and see. I can't imagine it would be 
 difficult or expensive to replace.
 
 As for the O ring, I can't say. I haven't looked at it or tried to remove 
 it. Mine seals well. So I'm figuring I'll leave well enough alone. If you 
 find a suitable replacement let me know, as I would certainly like to have 
 a spare.
 
 My previous response to this okiebenz message went to Dan, not the
 list, by mistake.  I think there are some electronic design wizards
 here that can answer the current problem with the machine we each are
 using.  This is a vibratory pump in a 40 year old espresso machine
 made in italy but wired for 110v.  I think we can muster a picture of
 the control knob if needed, plus maybe a picture of wiring.  There is
 a unique feature in this espresso machine - the speed of the pump can
 be varied using rheostat control knob.  12 o'clock is silent pump.
 Turn clockwise (cw) and the pump speeds up water thru thermoblock for
 shots.  Turn counter clockwise (ccw) and the pump is used to produce
 steam for foamed milk.  cw turn speeds pump goes from - to + as
 noted on the control.  ccw control goes from - to + to denote
 amount of steam?  However, steam production is not ideal so we are
 wondering if old caps or other electro-gizmo might be old after 40
 years.  Perhaps the rheostat needs a spray of DeOxit?  What else in
 this type of electric control can go bad in years of very light
 service?
 
 Dan, perhaps we need to read the instructions?
 
 Below is my description to Dan yesterday about what I am seeing -
 Dan's notes above show he is in approximately the same quandry (choppy
 vibe pump noise) about producing steam.  As noted, most espresso
 machines do not have a control that varies the pump speed.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator

2015-02-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
50 shades of black?

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Each cup is very pleasurable.

 Dan

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  On Feb 16, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea of a vibrator that also makes
 coffee.
 
  --R
 
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[MBZ] espresso machine vibrator

2015-02-13 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
I don't think the pumps run on a rheostat

here's a rebuild tutorial

http://www.instructables.com/id/Rebuilding-an-ULKA-Vibratory-Pump-Espresso-machin/

i've never had luck at repairing them

here's another set of links

http://ulkapumprepair.blogspot.com/

the ulna is the one in the machines i use, i think

they can be bought relatively cheaply if you shop
thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins



On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:34 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

 
 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Espresso
 Date: February 12, 2015 7:45:20 PM EST
 To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com, Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 
 Dan wrote:
 Interesting. I think mine is the same way. Maybe the caps(s) for the pump 
 are old and should be replaced?
 
 I may take a look at mine this weekend and see. I can't imagine it would be 
 difficult or expensive to replace.
 
 As for the O ring, I can't say. I haven't looked at it or tried to remove 
 it. Mine seals well. So I'm figuring I'll leave well enough alone. If you 
 find a suitable replacement let me know, as I would certainly like to have a 
 spare.
 
 
 My previous response to this okiebenz message went to Dan, not the
 list, by mistake.  I think there are some electronic design wizards
 here that can answer the current problem with the machine we each are
 using.  This is a vibratory pump in a 40 year old espresso machine
 made in italy but wired for 110v.  I think we can muster a picture of
 the control knob if needed, plus maybe a picture of wiring.  There is
 a unique feature in this espresso machine - the speed of the pump can
 be varied using rheostat control knob.  12 o'clock is silent pump.
 Turn clockwise (cw) and the pump speeds up water thru thermoblock for
 shots.  Turn counter clockwise (ccw) and the pump is used to produce
 steam for foamed milk.  cw turn speeds pump goes from - to + as
 noted on the control.  ccw control goes from - to + to denote
 amount of steam?  However, steam production is not ideal so we are
 wondering if old caps or other electro-gizmo might be old after 40
 years.  Perhaps the rheostat needs a spray of DeOxit?  What else in
 this type of electric control can go bad in years of very light
 service?
 
 Dan, perhaps we need to read the instructions?
 
 Below is my description to Dan yesterday about what I am seeing -
 Dan's notes above show he is in approximately the same quandry (choppy
 vibe pump noise) about producing steam.  As noted, most espresso
 machines do not have a control that varies the pump speed.
 mao

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