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Subject: Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze
Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I have
to
drive 90 miles to get to a Benz dealer.
Wasser. Or use Zerex G05
Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes:
But you also need to force the t-stat open and get flow through the
heater core, so engine needs to be running, heater on, block drain
open, fresh water flowing in via fitting at upper radiator hose.
OK my thinking now is that it's had green
Doesn't anyone use coolant test strips???
Been using them for years on all kind of diesel powered equipment to test
for presence of the good or bad stuff in coolant. Napa sells them, just
ask. There is a shelf life so check when you buy and get fresh.
Takes about 5 minutes to determine if your
Subject: Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze
Doesn't anyone use coolant test strips???
Been using them for years on all kind of diesel powered equipment to test
for presence of the good or bad stuff in coolant. Napa sells them, just
ask. There is a shelf life so check when you buy and get fresh.
Takes
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Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze
Doesn't anyone use coolant test strips???
Been using them for years on all kind of diesel powered equipment to test
for presence of the good or bad stuff in coolant. Napa sells them, just
ask
What's with the issue of using green antifreeze in diesels and aluminum
heads? I had my antifreeze changed and I said to the mechanic that I heard
that I should not be using the green stuff re the aluminum head. He picks
up the A/F container and read that it was safe for these heads.
What is the
Green has a pH of 11 or so.
Hot aluminum and bases mix too well, resulting in erosion and pin-holing.
The proper stuff will have a pH of 7 and is buffered to stay that way.
I view commodity antifreeze as being a lot like oil filters; some time ago,
someone did a tear-down of a bunch of
Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I have to
drive 90 miles to get to a Benz dealer.
Mike
On Aug 19, 2011 8:50 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
It's not buffered as well as the approved stuff, becomes acidic and will
erode the head. I think it is
Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I
have to
drive 90 miles to get to a Benz dealer.
Wasser. Or use Zerex G05, which is the same thing. I get
mine at NAPA.
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It will probably do no short term harm but the problem with coolant is most
folks don't change it often enough. The MB/Zerex G-05 has a longer life so you
can go two, maybe three years between changes.
If you have ordinary green coolant then you have to change it yearly as the
buffers and
Yep, I've only purchased the MB antifreeze once. NAPA carries it, made by
Valvoline, who supplies it to MB.
Max
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Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I
Rusty sent the last MB antifreeze I bought. 'Came to my front door.
Wilton
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From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze
Is there a brand
You can buy Zerex G-05 at the FLAPS. Same stuff.
Allan
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:03 -0400, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a brand that works well mixed with the MB orange stuff? I have to
drive 90 miles to get to a Benz dealer.
Mike
On Aug 19, 2011 8:50 AM, Max Dillon
Yep, and for the small price difference over green death, I stick with
what I know works.
I also have heard something about cylinder sleeve erosion of some kind, but
I may be mixing my facts up.
Walt
On Aug 19, 2011 9:30 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
You can buy Zerex G-05 at
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
The worst for plastics is the Dexcool/Orange stuff. I used that once in a VW
Jetta
and all the plastic hose adapters on the head started leaking within 6 months.
Didn't GM invent Dex-Cool and push it as the
I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the
Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big bucks
and a pain to fix.
Peter
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Allan
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:55:55 -0500 Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com
wrote:
I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the
Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big
bucks and a pain to fix.
In any event, when you change to MB/Zerex G-05,
I don't know about the GM stuff, but I do know that combining green and gold is
a very bad thing.
We saw this on occasion with industrial engines, and if the engine is not
thoroughly rinsed out to remove all traces of the old coolant, damage will
almost always occur.
Dan
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On 8/19/2011 8:28 AM, Allan Streib wrote:
It will probably do no short term harm but the problem with coolant is most
folks don't
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote:
I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the
Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big bucks
and a pain to fix.
So what's the best thing to replace it with? GO-5?
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Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote:
I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the
Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big bucks
and a pain to fix.
So what's the best thing
Honestly - I think you have hit the issue right on the head - Replace. If
your changing your fluid every 2 years - I don't think it will ever be an
issue. When I was in college and a little later my wife and I had a 1985
Vanagon camper. Everyone we knew who had one complained about the cooling
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:55 -0500, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote:
I sure hope not. In my years of mechanical experience every GM with the
Dex-Cool that had never been changed had a leaking heater core. Big bucks
and a pain to fix.
As I recall they did claim it to be lifetime
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:05:07 -0600
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] green antifreeze
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 11:55:55 -0500 Peter Hertzing phertz
Severe corrosion. Use only the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 or exact
equivalent. The green stuff contains phosphates, which will also
precipitate in the radiator, permanently clogging it.
Peter
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Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes:
Severe corrosion. Use only the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 or exact
equivalent. The green stuff contains phosphates, which will also
precipitate in the radiator, permanently clogging it.
What's the best way to flush the block? I am thinking about
I've used a wet/dry vac hooked to the waterpump outlet with duct tape. Let
it run for a while, seemed to do a good job.
Walt
On Aug 19, 2011 8:26 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes:
Severe corrosion. Use only the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 or
That will help, but it's best to flush, run the system with fresh water, flush
again, and fill.
It won't completely remove the old coolant, but will lower the concentration
levels to insignificant amounts.
Ideally, if you can pull the block drain and flush you'll get nearly all of it
out.
Open the block drain. Every Benz has one. May be pretty stuck if
it's had green coolant in it for an extended period.
Peter
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FSM says to install fitting at upper radiator hose for a water source (garden
hose), install a thermostat that is forced open, open the block drain, and
start the engine to flush the coolant.
I went to the pick-n-pull for a short section of radiator hose, bought a T
fitting and garden hose
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes:
Severe corrosion. Use only the MB stuff or Zerex G-05 or
exact equivalent. The green stuff contains phosphates,
which will also precipitate in the radiator, permanently
clogging it.
Allan Streib wrote:
What's the best way to flush the
I guess you could then connect a hose and flush it. But with
the block drain open and the lower radiator hose off, I'm pretty
sure there will effectively be no coolant left.
It was amazing to me, with a water hose feed and a leak out the
top of the filler neck, engine running, just how long
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:
It was amazing to me, with a water hose feed and a leak out the top of
the filler neck, engine running, just how long the clear outflow
tasted sour.
You *taste* your engine coolant???
Allan
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But you also need to force the t-stat open and get flow through the heater
core, so engine needs to be running, heater on, block drain open, fresh water
flowing in via fitting at upper radiator hose.
Max
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That is a great idea! Just a dab on your tongue will tell you if it's really
clean or not.
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Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:
It was amazing to me, with a water hose
You *taste* your engine coolant???
Once it looked like water I gave it a little lick, and was
surprised how sour it still was. So I kept flushing until
it tasted more like water too. Did not consume any, rinsed
and spit afterwards. Why tax the buffering of the new incoming
coolant by putting
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