[MBZ] speed ratings of tires
On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130 mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? The car is never going to go anywhere near that fast. It really narrows down the selection and raises the price. Why cant a T=118mph tire be used? That opens up alot more tire choices at cheaper prices. This same thing could also be said for 124's 126 and so on. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
My guess (and that's all it is - a guess), is that higher speed rated tires have stiffer sidewalls, and handle higher temps. A heavier car will need stiffer sidewalls, and will generate more heat while driving. Then again, the cars were designed for the autobahn On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130 mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? The car is never going to go anywhere near that fast. It really narrows down the selection and raises the price. Why cant a T=118mph tire be used? That opens up alot more tire choices at cheaper prices. This same thing could also be said for 124's 126 and so on. -- -- OK Don W124 Diesels Ubuntu 8.10 KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/fbbe8e5b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130 mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? I think it's because they don't want to be blamed for selling you a tire with a lower rating than OEM. What do Altimax HP cost in that size? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
The HP's which are a H rated tire cost 84 in that size, the RT which is a T rated tire is 75 Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130 mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? I think it's because they don't want to be blamed for selling you a tire with a lower rating than OEM. What do Altimax HP cost in that size? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
Kaleb, Speed rating is about a lot more then speed. Speed rating also affects how the tires handle. H rated tires have much stiffer sidewalls than S rated tires and since the tires are an active part of a car's suspension, downgrading from H to S rating, particularly the front tires, will have a negative impact on how the car handles. Downgrading also greatly reduces front tire tread life because the more flexible sidewalls allow more tread to be scuffed off in turns. Every used Mercedes I've bought to date came with S rated tires (except for the 59, which had bias ply) and I replaced the front tires with the correct H rated tires as soon as I could. Then I replaced the rear tires as soon as they wore out. In every case, the correct front tires had a huge impact on handling and I could tell no difference with the rear tires BTW, Wal-Mart - the largest tire dealer in the world, does not even carry H rated tires. And they told me that H rated tires are a waste of money because no-one drives that fast. But the same Wal-Mart auto technician will sell you the wrong battery for your Mercedes diesel and insist that it's correct! What else would you expect from Wal-Mart? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:38 PM To: mercedes Mailing List; davesl...@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130 mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? The car is never going to go anywhere near that fast. It really narrows down the selection and raises the price. Why cant a T=118mph tire be used? That opens up alot more tire choices at cheaper prices. This same thing could also be said for 124's 126 and so on. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 2/7/2009 1:39 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 2/7/2009 1:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
I have Cientra tires on my 300D, they are an speed rating S and load rating 90 tire, made in Mexico by BF Goodrich. They were cheap, but actually have better snow performance than the Michelin X1 tires I had before these (had to replace them because the bands were separating). I don't think I've ever really driven more than 80MPH, maybe slightly more when passing but certainly not for any extended period. I'm not endorsing this as adequate, but I've not had ANY problems with these tires and they seem to be wearing well. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130 mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? The car is never going to go anywhere near that fast. It really narrows down the selection and raises the price. Why cant a T=118mph tire be used? That opens up alot more tire choices at cheaper prices. This same thing could also be said for 124's 126 and so on. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, Speed rating is about a lot more then speed. Speed rating also affects how the tires handle. H rated tires have much stiffer sidewalls than S rated tires and since the tires are an active part of a car's suspension, downgrading from H to S rating, particularly the front tires, will have a negative impact on how the car handles. Downgrading also greatly reduces front tire tread life because the more flexible sidewalls allow more tread to be scuffed off in turns. What he said. A 140 is a pretty hefty car and flimsy tires do it no favors at all. I just put Bridgestone Turanzas on my S420 and they're about the perfect tire for the car. Much nicer than the Michelins they replaced, or the Contis or no-name POS tires on other 140s I've driven. Expensive, but they have a 70k mile treadlife warranty which I expect to collect on (these cars chew up tires pretty quickly), as long as I go back to Firestone every 6,000 miles so they can rotate them and steal my metal valve stem caps (again). Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
Because when some idiot steals it and drives it at 120 and a tire blows, YOU are liable for his injuries because you put tires on the car that weren't good enough for how fast it would go. Peter On Feb 8, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130 mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? The car is never going to go anywhere near that fast. It really narrows down the selection and raises the price. Why cant a T=118mph tire be used? That opens up alot more tire choices at cheaper prices. This same thing could also be said for 124's 126 and so on. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:44:47 -0600 Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote: ... as long as I go back to Firestone every 6,000 miles so they can rotate them and steal my metal valve stem caps (again). Maybe you should take the valve stem caps off before you go there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From what I've read about the tires originally intended for use on the W140, they were much softer and of higher performance. Due to the weight and size of the car, they wore very fast, and the US market just wouldn't got for an expensive tire that had to be replaced every 10,000 miles or so. The tires were toughened up for extended mileage, and the cars top end was reduced to compensate for the lower performance rubber. Ed 300E 2009/2/8 Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, Speed rating is about a lot more then speed. Speed rating also affects how the tires handle. H rated tires have much stiffer sidewalls than S rated tires and since the tires are an active part of a car's suspension, downgrading from H to S rating, particularly the front tires, will have a negative impact on how the car handles. Downgrading also greatly reduces front tire tread life because the more flexible sidewalls allow more tread to be scuffed off in turns. What he said. A 140 is a pretty hefty car and flimsy tires do it no favors at all. I just put Bridgestone Turanzas on my S420 and they're about the perfect tire for the car. Much nicer than the Michelins they replaced, or the Contis or no-name POS tires on other 140s I've driven. Expensive, but they have a 70k mile treadlife warranty which I expect to collect on (these cars chew up tires pretty quickly), as long as I go back to Firestone every 6,000 miles so they can rotate them and steal my metal valve stem caps (again). Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/cbe6a715/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
You are probably right. A friend of mine bought one of the high performance 5 series BMWs a few years ago and his tires only lasted 9000 miles. But the issue wasn't the speed rating, it was the rubber compound. The tires on his BMW were Z rated! When he went back to the Stealership for new tires, they would only mount the originals and they explained that the replacements also had no mileage rating. I don't remember what brand he went to but he found an American Z rated tire that lasted 30,000 miles. The replacements also did not come with a mileage warranty. I have to admit - it is a very tight car, but the sidewalls on a Z rated tire have almost no give. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires From what I've read about the tires originally intended for use on the W140, they were much softer and of higher performance. Due to the weight and size of the car, they wore very fast, and the US market just wouldn't got for an expensive tire that had to be replaced every 10,000 miles or so. The tires were toughened up for extended mileage, and the cars top end was reduced to compensate for the lower performance rubber. Ed 300E 2009/2/8 Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, Speed rating is about a lot more then speed. Speed rating also affects how the tires handle. H rated tires have much stiffer sidewalls than S rated tires and since the tires are an active part of a car's suspension, downgrading from H to S rating, particularly the front tires, will have a negative impact on how the car handles. Downgrading also greatly reduces front tire tread life because the more flexible sidewalls allow more tread to be scuffed off in turns. What he said. A 140 is a pretty hefty car and flimsy tires do it no favors at all. I just put Bridgestone Turanzas on my S420 and they're about the perfect tire for the car. Much nicer than the Michelins they replaced, or the Contis or no-name POS tires on other 140s I've driven. Expensive, but they have a 70k mile treadlife warranty which I expect to collect on (these cars chew up tires pretty quickly), as long as I go back to Firestone every 6,000 miles so they can rotate them and steal my metal valve stem caps (again). Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/cb e6a715/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 2/7/2009 1:39 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 2/7/2009 1:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
I used to run Yoko 008Rs years ago on my old 911. While DOT legal for road use, there was no wear rating on them. If you got 5000 out of a set, you were doing really well, and they didn't like to be cycled a lot, so while the grip was fantastic, it would drop off with cycles. The sidewall was so upright and ridged, they probably inspired run flat tires. lol Nothing comes without a cost, and while they would hang on forever, when they did finally decide to let go, there wasn't a lot of progression built into them. Woho, did you feel that coming Molly??? ;-) hee hee Ed 300E 2009/2/8 Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net You are probably right. A friend of mine bought one of the high performance 5 series BMWs a few years ago and his tires only lasted 9000 miles. But the issue wasn't the speed rating, it was the rubber compound. The tires on his BMW were Z rated! When he went back to the Stealership for new tires, they would only mount the originals and they explained that the replacements also had no mileage rating. I don't remember what brand he went to but he found an American Z rated tire that lasted 30,000 miles. The replacements also did not come with a mileage warranty. I have to admit - it is a very tight car, but the sidewalls on a Z rated tire have almost no give. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires From what I've read about the tires originally intended for use on the W140, they were much softer and of higher performance. Due to the weight and size of the car, they wore very fast, and the US market just wouldn't got for an expensive tire that had to be replaced every 10,000 miles or so. The tires were toughened up for extended mileage, and the cars top end was reduced to compensate for the lower performance rubber. Ed 300E 2009/2/8 Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, Speed rating is about a lot more then speed. Speed rating also affects how the tires handle. H rated tires have much stiffer sidewalls than S rated tires and since the tires are an active part of a car's suspension, downgrading from H to S rating, particularly the front tires, will have a negative impact on how the car handles. Downgrading also greatly reduces front tire tread life because the more flexible sidewalls allow more tread to be scuffed off in turns. What he said. A 140 is a pretty hefty car and flimsy tires do it no favors at all. I just put Bridgestone Turanzas on my S420 and they're about the perfect tire for the car. Much nicer than the Michelins they replaced, or the Contis or no-name POS tires on other 140s I've driven. Expensive, but they have a 70k mile treadlife warranty which I expect to collect on (these cars chew up tires pretty quickly), as long as I go back to Firestone every 6,000 miles so they can rotate them and steal my metal valve stem caps (again). Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/cb e6a715/attachment.htmlhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/cb%0Ae6a715/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 2/7/2009 1:39 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 2/7/2009 1:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/0557eb13/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires
as i understood it, the speed rating only relates to using the tire for some fixed period of time (70 minutes, or something like that) before cooling down completely; anything longer than that is over spec. if, like so many MBZ drivers do, you drive your car at highway speed or more for more than an hour or so at a time between complete heat cycles, you're probably better off with a tire that is speed rated to somewhat higher than the speeds you are likely to be traveling at. considering the possible consequences of tire failure at speed, doesn't seem like the place to save a few bucks. cheers! e Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: On, for example, a 140 300SD, tirerack says min speed rating is H=130 mph. Why do you need a tire rated that fast? The car is never going to go anywhere near that fast. It really narrows down the selection and raises the price. Why cant a T=118mph tire be used? That opens up alot more tire choices at cheaper prices. This same thing could also be said for 124's 126 and so on. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/9ccca3ad/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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heh,... that's a trip in the Way-Back Machine! i once got over 10K miles on a set of A008Rs (or possibly A008RTUs), but it was because i had to make several thousand-mile-weekend trips downstate and back on them. actually seemed to me that they had gotten less grippy as they had gotten fairly baked, but it was hard to tell exactly because i was autocrossing the 'slush' series on them and several of those events were in the slop. cheers! e E M wrote: I used to run Yoko 008Rs years ago on my old 911. While DOT legal for road use, there was no wear rating on them. If you got 5000 out of a set, you were doing really well, and they didn't like to be cycled a lot, so while the grip was fantastic, it would drop off with cycles. The sidewall was so upright and ridged, they probably inspired run flat tires. lol Nothing comes without a cost, and while they would hang on forever, when they did finally decide to let go, there wasn't a lot of progression built into them. Woho, did you feel that coming Molly??? ;-) hee hee Ed 300E 2009/2/8 Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net You are probably right. A friend of mine bought one of the high performance 5 series BMWs a few years ago and his tires only lasted 9000 miles. But the issue wasn't the speed rating, it was the rubber compound. The tires on his BMW were Z rated! When he went back to the Stealership for new tires, they would only mount the originals and they explained that the replacements also had no mileage rating. I don't remember what brand he went to but he found an American Z rated tire that lasted 30,000 miles. The replacements also did not come with a mileage warranty. I have to admit - it is a very tight car, but the sidewalls on a Z rated tire have almost no give. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed ratings of tires From what I've read about the tires originally intended for use on the W140, they were much softer and of higher performance. Due to the weight and size of the car, they wore very fast, and the US market just wouldn't got for an expensive tire that had to be replaced every 10,000 miles or so. The tires were toughened up for extended mileage, and the cars top end was reduced to compensate for the lower performance rubber. Ed 300E 2009/2/8 Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, Speed rating is about a lot more then speed. Speed rating also affects how the tires handle. H rated tires have much stiffer sidewalls than S rated tires and since the tires are an active part of a car's suspension, downgrading from H to S rating, particularly the front tires, will have a negative impact on how the car handles. Downgrading also greatly reduces front tire tread life because the more flexible sidewalls allow more tread to be scuffed off in turns. What he said. A 140 is a pretty hefty car and flimsy tires do it no favors at all. I just put Bridgestone Turanzas on my S420 and they're about the perfect tire for the car. Much nicer than the Michelins they replaced, or the Contis or no-name POS tires on other 140s I've driven. Expensive, but they have a 70k mile treadlife warranty which I expect to collect on (these cars chew up tires pretty quickly), as long as I go back to Firestone every 6,000 miles so they can rotate them and steal my metal valve stem caps (again). Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/cb e6a715/attachment.htmlhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/cb%0Ae6a715/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 2/7/2009 1:39 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 2/7/2009 1:39 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
