Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond
-0500 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations Message-ID: 27e87fbb-09d1-43ef-bc0b-5056714a2...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 80 would be very unsafe; if only one

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS Message-ID: 20140302213937.91f011096ef5b38a29978...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:36:50 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-03 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Here are some illustrations and explanations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_%28mechanics%29 Go down the page to functional description. I think of the drive shaft turning the axles on the planetary gears. When the planetary gear attached to one axle is stopped, the planetary

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS wiki and the US Merc

2014-03-03 Thread Hendrik and Fay
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS Message-ID: 20140302213937.91f011096ef5b38a29978...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:36:50 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very confusing but I need to know

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-02 Thread kdwittne...@yahoo.com
Yes I am running out of problems to chase down with the car just now so this one rises to the top. putting the car on stands and winding up to 80 sounds a bit too much like ferris Buehler s day off,  but is otherwise a fine idea. I didn't follow the bit about 80 on stands without the

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-02 Thread Max Dillon
80 would be very unsafe; if only one wheel was turning, it would be going 160 mph when your speedometer read 80, which might cause that tire to come apart... On March 2, 2014 7:35:34 PM EST, kdwittne...@yahoo.com kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I am running out of problems to chase down with

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: 80 would be very unsafe; if only one wheel was turning, it would be going 160 mph when your speedometer read 80, which might cause that tire to come apart... ...or the differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-02 Thread Dieselhead
Max Dillon wrote: 80 would be very unsafe; if only one wheel was turning, it would be going 160 mph when your speedometer read 80, which might cause that tire to come apart... ...or the differential. Mitch. No, the tire speed rating has to do with heat. THe tire does not heat up spinning

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-02 Thread Hendrik and Fay
OK I'll bite, you're saying that if you put the rear axle up, the rear wheel will spin at twice the speed? How does that work? The magic 2 speed diff option? The input speed into the diff is the same at 80 but the output doubles? That's great, I am going to take one of the tires of the back and

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:36:50 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very confusing but I need to know the science behind it, otherwise I'll have to believe in magic, as that is the only explanation I can think of as to why a tire would spin at twice the normal speed.

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-02 Thread Dieselhead
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:36:50 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very confusing but I need to know the science behind it, otherwise I'll have to believe in magic, as that is the only explanation I can think of as to why a tire would spin at twice the normal speed.

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-01 Thread Hendrik and Fay
ooohh that would drive me nuts. My truck had that sort of thing going on, new steer tires and everyhting is good but seeing that you have had tires replaced, we can discount that. Have you checked your wheel bearings, I suppose you would have at some stage in 13 years. Wheel alignment? I would

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Harry Watkins
: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding Didn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] make a DVD explaining the rebuild process? D. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick
I would add that MB transmissions rarely fail before 250,000 miles if maintained, so you have wear on the gear train and clutch drums much more so that in a GM, which usually bites the dust at around 100,000. The result is that you must check ALL the parts, not just slap in a new set of

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not taken apart. Doubt I would attempt to take one apart. Marshall Booth wrote: David Bruckmann wrote: Didn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] make a DVD explaining the rebuild process? YES. But of course, his video can ONLY illustrate

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Marshall Booth
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not taken apart. Doubt I would attempt to take one apart. Then you're NOT rebuilding the transmission! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh really, why not? Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not taken apart. Doubt I would attempt to take one apart. Then you're NOT rebuilding the transmission! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:17:48PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh really, why not? need to clean everything before you put it back together. Some transmissions (47RE comes to mind) get sticky passages in the valve body that need to be dealt with during a rebuild. K

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Nick Wellinghoff
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:11 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not taken apart. Doubt I would

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
Besides replacing ball checks, seats, springs, metering orfices and the like. I think a MB V/B has 1/2 dozen balls in it. On 12/6/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:17:48PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh really, why not? need to clean everything before you

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Marshall Booth
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh really, why not? Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not taken apart. Doubt I would attempt to take one apart. Then you're NOT rebuilding the transmission! The valve body (and OTHER

[MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-06 Thread Rich Thomas
So how hard is it to rebuild these things? I am thinking that it would be easy to go gather a bunch up at various junkyards or Okie homesteads, ship a container load to China or India or Mexico or CA (nothing special about German rebuilders -- they probably use the immigrant Turks and Arabs

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-06 Thread Potter, Tom E
8:24 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding So how hard is it to rebuild these things? I am thinking that it would be easy to go gather a bunch up at various junkyards or Okie homesteads, ship a container load to China or India or Mexico or CA (nothing special

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-06 Thread Marshall Booth
Rich Thomas wrote: So how hard is it to rebuild these things? I am thinking that it would be easy to go gather a bunch up at various junkyards or Okie homesteads, ship a container load to China or India or Mexico or CA (nothing special about German rebuilders -- they probably use the

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-06 Thread Marshall Booth
Rich Thomas wrote: Good info, but I am still unclear as to what about the MB trans makes it so much more complicated. I guess part of it must be that it is very well-engineered to last a couple hundred kmiles, but that should not necessarily mean it is harder to redo (it could mean it is

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-06 Thread Rich Thomas
OK I am disabused of the notion of rebuilding a Benz tranny. --R Marshall Booth wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Good info, but I am still unclear as to what about the MB trans makes it so much more complicated. I guess part of it must be that it is very well-engineered to last a couple

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-06 Thread David Bruckmann
Didn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] make a DVD explaining the rebuild process? D.