Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread John Reames
I had to drive a Jetta and a betle as loaner a couple of years ago. Compared to a W210, they seemed like rattletraps on the highway... Light, tinny, and with blindspots you could lose a convoy (or at least a semi) in. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile:

[MBZ] Kleb can go nationwide with this

2010-02-15 Thread Rich Thomas
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1601354458.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Car Detailing update

2010-02-15 Thread Donald Snook
Craig wrote: Did you do it all by hand, or did you use some sort of machine? I did everything by hand, except I applied the cleaner wax with a random orbital - the cheapo kind, not the super duper porter wagner high speed version. Just the Wal Mart polisher thing. I removed the wax by hand.

Re: [MBZ] Car Detailing update

2010-02-15 Thread Donald Snook
Dan wrote: To clay a car you'll have to do it by hand, but everything else you can do with a good buffer. I can do a complete compounding, wax and buff of the Crown Vic in a couple of hours using a buffer. A big time (and back) saver. I wish I had a real buffer and I really wish I had the

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2010-02-15 Thread Donald Snook
Rick provided the following link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260551087963viewitem=_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2category=6336 Boy, that is really nice! I would like to have that car. I wonder what cylinder head reconditioning means? What is

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread Donald Snook
Clay wrote: I now have to prep the E300D for back up use, and she is driving this boat. Are you going to sell the '95? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2010-02-15 Thread Rich Thomas
*Colossus Trading LLC is a dealership Scary. --R * Donald Snook wrote: Rick provided the following link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260551087963viewitem=_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2category=6336 Boy, that is really nice! I would like to have

Re: [MBZ] Car Detailing update

2010-02-15 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:45:33 -0800 (PST) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: To clay a car you'll have to do it by hand, but everything else you can do with a good buffer. I can do a complete compounding, wax and buff of the Crown Vic in a couple of hours using a buffer. A big time (and back)

[MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Bob Rentfro
The more collisions (no such thing as an accident...someone is always at fault said my old driver's ed teacher years ago) I see around here the more I really want to keep driving a W123. Sosince 1985 was the last year of the W123, I can asume an '85 300D turbo, low miles, well maintained is

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I would vote for an 83 240D with manual transmisssion, manual windows and manual sunroof.  Fewer things to break.  Will go forever if well cared for. --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Best W123? To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Allan Streib
I don't know that there's much difference between the last few years... manufacturers are usually done tweaking by then and just looking to milk some easy income out of the last few years of production. With any car that old it's going to be much more about the condition of the particular car

Re: [MBZ] website parts

2010-02-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
204 820 11 45 is a set, we sell for $38.00 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread OK Don
Doesn't the 85 have a different torque converter-crankshaft that makes it incompatible with the earlier cars? I'd avoid that one year if you're looking for a long term keeper. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I don't know that there's much difference

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Bob Rentfro
I think I remember that. Bob R On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:10 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't the 85 have a different torque converter-crankshaft that makes it incompatible with the earlier cars? I'd avoid that one year if you're looking for a long term keeper. On Mon, Feb 15,

Re: [MBZ] Car Detailing update

2010-02-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:45 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: To clay a car you'll have to do it by hand, but everything else you can do with a good buffer.  I can do a complete compounding, wax and buff of the Crown Vic in a couple of hours using a buffer. Grioit's Garage sells a gadget to

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Bob Rentfro
Like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240D-4SPD-MANUAL-96K-ORIG-MILES-NEAR-SHOWROOM-COND_W0QQitemZ220554246719QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item335a0eba3f Bob R On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: I would vote for an 83 240D with

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Nah-here's a better one-more crack- http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1600672553.html It was only $9875 when he listed it on the weekend-now has raised price. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  (will sell for 10K USD) 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I've been following this guy selling these cars for a while now, and even met him once. He definitely stretches the condition of the cars in his description, and modifies to photos to the point that its very distracting. Its definitely a case of a well-designed auction on eBay causing a car to

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: SWMBA wandered around and I pointed the sales guy at the Azera.  He found one that had been used as Demo and was selling as new with all the warranty and such.  She liked it enough to make the poor sales people dance around

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I don't think this means the '85s should be avoided... it should be sought after! These changes were improvements, and enough of these cars were sold that parts will be available for quite some time. The 1985 300D has been, and will continue to be the more desirable of US Spec W123s. They do

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Sharp! Electric sunroof but they'll last fine if you keep 'em lubed and you can always convert to manual later if need be. '83 is the most powerful of the 240Ds (I can't remember when they got the power bump, '82 maybe) so you get the full 72hp. 28mpg reliable if my '83 is any indication.

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've been following this guy selling these cars for a while now, and even met him once.  He definitely stretches the condition of the cars in his description, and modifies to photos to the point that its very

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
This could be a good deal: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/1600175245.html It could very well be a rusty turd too... Dwight is trying to turn me into Kaleb of the east. I should go look at it, its not far off my commute. We'll see what the latest storm of the century turns into. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I don't think he goes that far, but he applies filters that make seeing minor details difficult. You can see the photos are quite high in contrast and saturation, and have a general artificial quality. Jaime On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On

Re: [MBZ] Kleb can go nationwide with this

2010-02-15 Thread pm7088
Don't buy it!~ 6.0 P'Coke is POS compared to 7.3. This one guy is bailing out. Want to work on the turbo, remove cab! -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
The cranking mechanism on the manual window cranks go also, are more of a PITA to repair/replace, and are more expensive/harder to find than the parts for electric windows. I've BTDT. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread ernest breakfield
hi Bob! as someone who has an '85 300D, i can tell you that we've found a number of things that are different about that year; off the top of my head, the injection pump, the transmission (and some related parts), the rear dif,... and then there's the whole issue related to whether the '85

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Hmm-I have fixed manual cranks on two of them-weren't hard to find-Rusty ca 60 or 70. Don't know about harder than electric as I have never done any electric ones. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Esh
pretty nice looking vehicle.10/100,000 warranty is nice. Mike On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:26 AM, Redghost wrote: Azera ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread WILTON
Even better - no sunroof. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best W123? I would vote for an 83 240D with manual transmisssion, manual

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
That car is pretty nice but near showroom is a far cry from the truth. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Like this one?

Re: [MBZ] Kleb can go nationwide with this

2010-02-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1601354458.html What's the use of an 8 foot bed? That's not even long enough for a W201. Maybe if you were starting a business transporting BMW Isettas. You'd still

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread WILTON
Damn!! 'Even makes MY mouth water. One of you guys better snap this up. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best W123? Like this one?

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Allan Streib
I think for $6550 (and reserve not yet met at that price) you can do a lot better. Allan On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:30 -0500, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Damn!! 'Even makes MY mouth water. One of you guys better snap this up. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:35 -0800, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi Bob! as someone who has an '85 300D, i can tell you that we've found a number of things that are different about that year; off the top of my head, the injection pump, the transmission

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
You really don't like them -I think you have commented on them before. . When I lived in the south it seemed as if was always too hot to use one-now up north I use mine more often, but it Is not a necessity. My 240D doesn’t have one and the electric one on my other 240D never worked and I never

Re: [MBZ] Tranny problem

2010-02-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Did they still make sticky B2 pistons in 1992? If you believe some of the posters on the P**chP*rts forums, there are all kinds of problems with the 722.4 in the W124 diesels that can be fixed by a rebuild and installation of a

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net wrote: You really don't like them -I think you have commented on them before. . Yeah, Wilton's take is why take a perfectly good car with a nice solid roof and cut a hole in the top which might leak or jam open?---which is a

[MBZ] '85 190E stick?

2010-02-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/1601876721.html This is interesting. Gotta get pretty darn good mileage with the 5-speed. I'm assuming this is a four---or did they pair the six with a stick in '85? What's the 2.3-liter four like, anyway? Any particular trouble areas? Is it like an

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread Redghost
I have to get it back into condition to sit on the curb. Since she is in it all the time, I had little opportunity to sideline it for enough time to do basic care. Now I can. Not likely to go on the block. She wants to be able to use it while the new thing goes to dealer for service. I

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread Redghost
She is practical and just does not have a passionate bone in her body about material things. I think she had a need for new car once in her life and this fit her penny pinching needs. It is stable enough to drive, had some bells and whistles. Not a Benz by a long shot in any quality or

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread Redghost
I am betting the dealer will be unhappy with the deal in five years when the thing is worth nothing and they are still providing service on their dime and she still drives it until it is out of warranty. clay On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Michael Esh wrote: pretty nice looking vehicle.

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Rich Thomas
*ice cold air conditioning --R * Bob Rentfro wrote: Like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240D-4SPD-MANUAL-96K-ORIG-MILES-NEAR-SHOWROOM-COND_W0QQitemZ220554246719QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item335a0eba3f Bob R On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Dimitri Seretakis

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick?

2010-02-15 Thread OK Don
I don't know anything about the car, but did find this in the technical data book: 190E 2.3, 201 .028, 102.985 engine, the tranny is 717.412, Engine has 9:1 compressioin ratio, 6k rpm max., 136 hp @ 5100 rpm, 151 lb./ft. torque @ 3500 rpm, premuim fuel. rear axle is 3.27:1, 0-62 mph in 10.6

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread pm7088
I told my kid the same thing about her Hundi , she's driven it 160Kmi, one timing belt -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Redghost redghost @comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes @ okiebenz .com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:32:27 PM

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick?

2010-02-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/1601876721.html This is interesting. Gotta get pretty darn good mileage with the 5-speed. I was right, no 2.6 or 2.5 in 1984/85. Fueleconomy.gov reports: Mercedes-Benz 190 4 cyl, 2.3 L, Manual 5-spd, (FFS), Regular 17city 24hwy

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread OK Don
What manual crank? The manual sunroof in the '81 240D we had only had a latch that you twisted 180 degrees, then pushed it back and forth --- On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: The cranking mechanism on the manual window cranks go also, are more of a

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread OK Don
I think the best 123 is a 124 -- just my personal opinion -- after the 124, there wasn't anything about the 123's that I liked better. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: I don't think this means the '85s should be avoided... it should be sought after!

Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades

2010-02-15 Thread RELNGSON
204 820 11 45 is a set, we sell for $38.00.. Which is not on your website. And the dealer sells the genune article by the each. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] early 190E

2010-02-15 Thread RELNGSON
don't know anything about the car, but did find this in the technical data book: 190E 2.3,  201 .028,  102.985 engine, the tranny is 717.412, Engine has 9:1 compressioin ratio, 6k rpm max., 136 hp @ 5100 rpm, 151 lb./ft. torque @ 3500 rpm, premuim fuel. rear axle is 3.27:1, 0-62

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick?

2010-02-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Early W201s were fitted with Bunts, at least for the European market. Jaime On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/1601876721.html This is interesting. Gotta get pretty darn good mileage with the

Re: [MBZ] Car for Ed Booher

2010-02-15 Thread Ed Booher
Once again I thank you for thinking of me, Clay. EdB On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1585927609.html Price you can afford. Might even get it home on the road without a tow -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D

[MBZ] Boring Cars! was re: Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Donald Snook
Ok Don wrote: I think the best 123 is a 124 -- just my personal opinion -- after the 124, there wasn't anything about the 123's that I liked better. I agree. The 124, starting in about 1990, seem SO DIFFERENT than a 123. It's like it is a whole new generation of car. You can tell they are

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I agree except for looks-esp. rear end of 124 sedan. 123 is so classic looking. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr.(one of each) 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread OK Don
True - but the 115 is even better than the 123. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.netwrote: I agree except for looks-esp. rear end of 124 sedan. 123 is so classic looking. Dwight -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time).

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Bob Rentfro
OK Don typed: True - but the 115 is even better than the 123. Exactly... I've has 115, 123, 201, and now a 211. I've never had a 124. Never even driven one. Maybe I'm selling myself short. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Agreed even though I never had one. One day for fun, I parked the 123 and 124 side by side lined up -both white. Then I stood back and tired to analyze- really the front of 124 is not too bad with rakish slant-but the rear end goes up and ends abruptly- actually I think a 201 is better

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Bob Rentfro
AhhhI almost forgot about the 108 I had. Bob R On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.netwrote: Agreed even though I never had one. One day for fun, I parked the 123 and 124 side by side lined up -both white. Then I stood back and tired to analyze- really the

[MBZ] OM606 Timing Chain Wear Measure

2010-02-15 Thread Max Dillon
Dieselvolk, I'm trying to measure the timing chain wear on my '95 E300 (OM606). I cannot for the life of me find any marks on the camshaft at the #1 bearing tower. I've made this check on OM617 and OM603 engines, so I know what I'm looking for, but this OM606 has got me stumped. Anyone

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Anybody besides Fred ever have a 170? Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:27 PM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick?

2010-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Hmm, too bad its on the wrong coast, that could be an adequate replacement for my 240D... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:19:53 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick? Message-ID: 4b79ac69.1040...@voyager.net

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
I've never worked on a 124 but having seen one I appreciate the engine bay of a 240D... I've never driven a 124 either but I've ridden in one and driven a couple 201s and both the 124 and 201 are more refined than the 123. I do prefer the 123 look and simplicity though. -Curt Date: Mon, 15

Re: [MBZ] OM606 Timing Chain Wear Measure

2010-02-15 Thread Max Dillon
Answering my own post here. Searched the archives and found an exchange between Ned Kleinhenz and Marshall Booth, here's the key part below. Ned if you're still on this list, I'd like permission to also post this great tidbit on the MBCA forum and credit to your name. -Max

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick?

2010-02-15 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Same rear end as the two 190D's you have? Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:46 PM To: Diesel

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread OK Don
The 124 was designed with drag in mind - it had the lowest coefficient of drag of any production sedan when released in 1986 - 0.28, IIRC. The rear shape has a lot to do with that. I do agree though, that it looks ugly, but I own three of them regardless. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Dwight

Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades

2010-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
How can you not know by now that a large portion of Rusty's stock is not on the website. We talk about this nearly every single week... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:25:35 EST From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades

2010-02-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
That is why you need to CALL if you don't see it. We have access to EVERYTHING. The Mercedes EPC says they only sell by the set and that is the part number. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original

Re: [MBZ] Sometimes you just gotta wonder

2010-02-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
Someone should ask the seller what would it take to make your car PERFECT? On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread WILTON
I like the looks of 123 better, but it'd be mighty hard for me to go back to a manual 240D after having a 124 for 5+ years and a 126 for 15 years. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
I feel guilty asking this, but has anyone seen the actual video of the accident? On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:21 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Yabbut in this case, I suspect just as Princess Di bit the big one, so did this guy. Rapid deceleration makes a mess of your internal organs. Dan

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread WILTON
Yep Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Best W123? OK Don typed: True - but the 115 is even better than the 123. Exactly... I've has 115,

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread Kevin Kraly
She'll be one of the two original owners still taking advantage of the warranty. If everyone did, they would go under. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
Yes, he was flying. Hit the metal pole going backwards. Not a pretty sight. Very sad. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread WILTON
Once you drive a 124, it's mighty hard to go back, and driving a 126 is like flying at cruise on a cool, clear day - rock solid and steering by little more than just thinking where you want it to go (ever so slight pressure on the controls to put it where you want it). Wilton - Original

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
I think patina is overrated. One man's patina is another's stinky old car smell. On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:56 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Agreed! I'm also a fan of older cars that have never been restored. As they say, it can be restored over over but it's only original once.

Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades

2010-02-15 Thread WILTON
And a call to Rusty/Tom is cheap and easy. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades How can you not know by now that a large portion

Re: [MBZ] possibly the all-time ultimate crack-smoker

2010-02-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
He would be charging $35,002 if he had included two photos. On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking the response should be nis pitchers two ... But the guy at least can spell some words right. Allan Streib wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2010-02-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
It's named after the color of impala dung. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: *Colossus Trading LLC is a dealership Scary. --R * Donald Snook wrote: Rick provided the following link:

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
here is a link. not for the timid. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6202459ntag=mg;mostpopvideo Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: I feel guilty asking this, but has anyone seen the actual video of the accident? I had no idea how close the post was, you could reach out and touch it from the edge of the track. I can't imagine not having 'hockey glass' on the track side of those posts.

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I saw an article in the paper that a lot of people complained that the TV network showed it several times. I think it is on utubers too, my wife said she saw it. I did not watch it, I kinda have an idea of what hitting a metal pole at 90mph might look like. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] early 190E

2010-02-15 Thread Frederick W Moir
Alles. My 190E 1985 2.3 4cyl. auto. Was only in fair shape when I got it home. The first thing was the timing chain, single row, so worn out that it was rattling the chain tensioner. The cam gear had lost all of the sprocket tips so badly that I expected it to skip out of time at any second.

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick?

2010-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Dunno, at one point I researched an early '84 2.3l and it had a lower (numerically higher) rear end... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:56:10 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick? Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
A friend of mine is working at the Olympics, he was in the booth when the footage came in, said its brutal to watch. Based on that I'm refraining. -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:32:45 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Curt Raymond
And a 201 is a mite like a go-kart that doesn't beat your kidneys to death... I still like my 240D, it chugs on for no particularly good reason, its got SISU. -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:41:15 -0500 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject:

Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades

2010-02-15 Thread E M
what's the new number again? Ed 300E On 15 February 2010 17:44, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: And a call to Rusty/Tom is cheap and easy. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 15,

Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades

2010-02-15 Thread Rusty Cullens
no new number, same one since 1985, 1-800-741-5252 Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [MBZ] '85 190E stick?

2010-02-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Not bundts, mesh, like all those BBS wheels that were popular in the 1980s. And definitely aftermarket. (blow up the pics for a closer look) Aha! You are correct, sir. BBS wheels. My favorite! Could there by anything

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I agree, it makes no sense whatsoever to have those things right there when the possibility of leaving the track at any speed is clearly a possibility. I was thinking that mesh fencing, but those posts are so close you would need a hard barrier as you mention; although, skidding on the ice or

Re: [MBZ] SWMBA drops Cleo

2010-02-15 Thread Redghost
Based on the hulks residing in the PnP, these cars are not able to go more than 80k before some massive failures. That the original purchasers were stretching to make payments, they probably did not factor in proper care or bargain for dealer agreeing to cover the thing fully, paying for

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread Redghost
I continue to lust after the w126. Even the few hours in the POS SDL were a delight, until it became a turd, ala Cinderella's pumpkin. Been working on the `124. Oil change, engine clean and prep for detail. Carpets prep for good scrubbing. Dealing with the residue of the fuel leak in

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Peter Frederick
A hard barrier has been installed. Still fairly dangerous as they are going 90 mph plus. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Bob Rentfro
Today I heard it described as going 90 mph lying on a pie pan perched on two knives. They're crazy. Bob R On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: A hard barrier has been installed. Still fairly dangerous as they are going 90 mph plus. Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Crazy describes many Olympic winter sports, I think. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Esh
I agree, skiing in general can be dangerous for folks young enough to think they cannot be hurt. I wrapped my self around a large pine at the age of 20 in Vail, CO. Estimated speed was 50 mph. I got a free ride down the mountain and spent 10 days in hospital and feel very lucky to be

[MBZ] ULTIMATE 123

2010-02-15 Thread Dan Weeks
I think the ultimate 123 is a 126. I mean, why not? They're the same price as 123s now, and have more room, a better ride, bigger brakes, better passive safety, I would guess, and I think they handle about the same if not better, and don't give up much if anything in mileage or

Re: [MBZ] ULTIMATE 123

2010-02-15 Thread Peter Frederick
The OM 603 is a much better engine -- much more power, smoother, and less hassle (other than cracked heads, and OM 617's crack too, if less often). I wish I'd have bought my brother's SDL before he got it Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] ULTIMATE 123

2010-02-15 Thread buymbparts
I had the ultimate Mercedes until a tree fell on it. 1980 300SD. Black with bamboo leather interior. Everything worked on it, cruise, sunroof, windows, climate control, etc. It was fantastic! Then we had a little thing called a tornado, oops. 150 year old oak came down from front bumper to

Re: [MBZ] OT olympic death

2010-02-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: A friend of mine is working at the Olympics, he was in the booth when the footage came in, said its brutal to watch. I didn't find it to be anywhere near as graphic as TV drama shows. He veers up high on the inside of the curve, then goes airborne across the tube to the

Re: [MBZ] Best W123?

2010-02-15 Thread David Bruckmann
While it is tempting to think that a W123 will protect you against everything, make no mistake that no car designed in the 70s is any match even for much smaller modern cars. If, for example, you would consider a big Volvo station wagon to be a safe car, you may want to check out this video

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