Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Fmiser
> Rich wrote: > > The pedal seemed pretty hard, but when I went out to bed > in the pads, the pedal was getting a little soft and going down > slowly as I held it, so it appears there is still some air in > there. A sinking pedal is rarely air. That is the symptom of a leak or master cylinder se

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:48 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > I'd rule out other problems first but > you may have a sick MC. It is not cheap either. http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=yglzay45j54svz45lxbg2g55&makeid=800016@Mercedes&modelid=1194038@300SD&year=1984&cid=14@Brake%20%26%

Re: [MBZ] OT Flying People

2013-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: http://zanylol.com/flyingpeople.html Thanks, Andrew. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Master cylinders love to go south just after you change rotors, calipers, pads etc. When that's the timing, it's usually because the bleeding was done by pedal pumping, and the pedal went lower than it ever went in driving. If there was a ridge of crud on the cylinder

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have 3 or 4 of them right now. Make sure the engine has been replaced, or if not and its not burning oil yet, yank it out replace the rods and head gasket. I think the head gasket is the only thing you need to replace for prophylaxis, but it wouldn't hurt to measure

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond
A couple months ago I had a similar problem solved by borrowing Fred's Speedy Bleeder and I vowed that I would never bleed brakes again without a speedy bleeder. Took 2 seconds with that almost magical tool... -Curt Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:23:10 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussio

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond
I had exactly the same thought having read Kalebs message. -Curt Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:24:21 -0600 From: Craig To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel Message-ID: <20130714212421.c0ca3efc487f41d25c829...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASC

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Joe Sasser
> I have 3 or 4 of them right now. Make sure the engine has been replaced, or > if not and its not burning oil yet, yank it out replace the rods and head > gasket. I'll have to ask, they do say "diesel pump seals" (?) are leaking, and it's losing power. Plus that the engine "shakes". That make

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Joe Sasser
> Cons: > An engine that will self destruct with bent rods, a wiring harness that will > self destruct with heat and time, many complex computerized systems... > > Pros: > A state of the art automobile for its time. Timeless design. Awesome ride. > Built like a vault. Quiet beyond tranquili

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Dieselhead
> Cons: An engine that will self destruct with bent rods, a wiring harness that will self destruct with heat and time, many complex computerized systems... Pros: A state of the art automobile for its time. Timeless design. Awesome ride. Built like a vault. Quiet beyond tranquility. The P

[MBZ] Porch teardown

2013-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wKNhjBNTA-I --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No I switched to driving my car and getting paid mileage Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:35 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > >> I have not been driving it lately, > > > Heck, don't you have a Chevy Sonic for a company car? > >

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It makes me think #1 has low compression due to bent rod and worn out cylinder Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Joe Sasser wrote: > >> I have 3 or 4 of them right now. Make sure the engine has been replaced, or >> if not and its not burning oil yet, yank it out replace the ro

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I only pumped the pedal after all the bleeding, did not pump it to the floor, partway maybe 3-4 times when it got hard. I took that to be sucking fluid into the MC after the draining/bleeding/all new fluid. I'll give another try bleeding, maybe fix up a pressure cap and give that a try. Migh

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: I'll give another try bleeding, maybe fix up a pressure cap and give that a try. Might be time for a new MC anyway as long as I am refreshing the brake system. I was pretty sure the Olds' MC got damaged with the pump and bleed, because I had clear fluid running on all fou

Re: [MBZ] AC and alternators?

2013-07-15 Thread Jim Cathey
I thought you were trying to come up with the name of the gizmo on the compressor. I can't remember its name. Tachometer. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arch

Re: [MBZ] Added!!!Update 2004 E320 4matic - Water on Front Passenger's Side after Heavy Rain

2013-07-15 Thread Jim Cathey
Is the fix worth doing or should I consider replacing the frame entirely? Goo. Whatever they suggest will work and last. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archi

[MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread WILTON
'Been having to add a bit of water in 350SDL cooling system for several weeks, though car hasn't been driven much. I fill it, go for short drive and coolant level would be down about an inch in overflow tank. No leak evident. 'Been checking oil level, too, which has been holding at about mid

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Ouch. I'll give you $500 for it --R On 7/15/13 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Been having to add a bit of water in 350SDL cooling system for several weeks, though car hasn't been driven much. I fill it, go for short drive and coolant level would be down about an inch in overflow tank. No leak

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:30 AM, WILTON wrote: > Just went to car and checked oil level - up to middle of upper red tab on > the stick!!! I think I found the missing coolant!!! Like Rich says, ouch. You are probably in for a $3-4K bill, ballpark, to have an indy your trust put on a new h

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread Chris James
And just when you got it on the road again!!! Sorry! :-( On 7/15/2013 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Been having to add a bit of water in 350SDL cooling system for several weeks, though car hasn't been driven much. I fill it, go for short drive and coolant level would be down about an inch in ove

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread WILTON
Yep; thanks. I suspect it started few weeks ago when the 2½-year old lower rad hose blew, though I did not notice the temp going to redline. Temp was headed up fast when I shut it down. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Chris James" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday,

Re: [MBZ] Asiana Crew Report - SFO Crash

2013-07-15 Thread ernest breakfield
i've read that the NTSB has stated that they didn't release these names and didn't have anything to do with this list, and that KTVU claims this came to them off of a national feed,... no matter where they got it from, it's indeed proof that there's nobody with a brain engaged in the path, a

Re: [MBZ] Cause of Frisco crash: Poor piloting plus no glide path?

2013-07-15 Thread ernest breakfield
have seen a couple of versions of this in the last few days,... hard to know how much truth there is in any of these, but it does raise some interesting thoughts. cheers! e On 10/Jul/13 08:28, Rich Thomas wrote: An old friend sent this around, it might be internet BS but he does know a lot

[MBZ] OT Speaking of air crashes

2013-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Has anyone else noticed that the matter of the TWA 800 flight that crashed off Long Island is being revisited? Apparently a documentary on it has been released, suggesting a missile strike (which matches eyewitness reports). --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

[MBZ] List????

2013-07-15 Thread Randy Bennell
Have I disappeared again like once a few years ago, or is the list just slow today? Nothing since about 10:30 this morning. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive

[MBZ] Rear view cameras

2013-07-15 Thread Fmiser
No. Not _that_ kind. A camera to do the same sort of job as a mirror. My friend drives a cargo van and would like to get a camera rig. One stipulation is he doesn't want an obvious screen on his dash that proclaims "Valuable electronics! Please steal me!". Any suggestions? I have no recent exp

Re: [MBZ] List????

2013-07-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > Have I disappeared again like once a few years ago, or is the list just slow > today? > Nothing since about 10:30 this morning. If you've disappeared, so have I. Nothing for a couple of hours for me. "Since 10:30" doesn't mean much withou

Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of air crashes

2013-07-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
This crash was the subject of an exhaustive investigation that found no evidence of a missile strike. What makes you so willing to embrace this revisionist history? On Jul 15, 2013 4:39 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > Has anyone else noticed that the matter of the TWA 800 flight that crashed > off Lon

Re: [MBZ] List????

2013-07-15 Thread Frederick Moir
Nobody but us chickens.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Randy Bennell >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 4:39 PM >Subject: [MBZ] List > > >Have I disappeared again like once a few years ago, or is the list just >slow

Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of air crashes

2013-07-15 Thread Randy Bennell
On 15/07/2013 3:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This crash was the subject of an exhaustive investigation that found no evidence of a missile strike. What makes you so willing to embrace this revisionist history? On Jul 15, 2013 4:39 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the ma

Re: [MBZ] Rear view cameras

2013-07-15 Thread WILTON
BIL is having back-up alarms (dingers) installed on all of his and daughter's/SIL's vehicles because of the six children on "farm" stead. Maybe friend doesn't need a screen - just a dinger alarm. Maybe he needs a "view," though, to aid steering. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Fmis

Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of air crashes

2013-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I made no conspiratorial statements, just pointed out this thing is gaining currency. There were eyewitness reports that suggested a missile. --R On 7/15/13 4:58 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 15/07/2013 3:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: This crash was the subject of an exhaustive investigatio

Re: [MBZ] Asiana Crew Report - SFO Crash

2013-07-15 Thread Mountain Man
e wrote: > no matter where they got it from, it's indeed proof that there's nobody > with a brain engaged in the path, and they're simply regurgitating whatever > is put in front of them. Nobody with brain engaged? - as in ROTE? Perhaps generally applicable for the oriental pilots, as Rich tol

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread Gerry Archer
Tough luck, Wilton! Sorry to hear that. Hope it can be fixed for reasonable cost. Gerry [:o( On 7/15/2013 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Been having to add a bit of water in 350SDL cooling system for several weeks, though car hasn't been driven much. I fill it, go for short drive and coolant

Re: [MBZ] Rear view cameras

2013-07-15 Thread Craig
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:37:39 -0500 Fmiser wrote: > No. Not _that_ kind. A camera to do the same sort of job as a > mirror. > > My friend drives a cargo van and would like to get a camera rig. > One stipulation is he doesn't want an obvious screen on his dash > that proclaims "Valuable electron

Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of air crashes

2013-07-15 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: > Has anyone else noticed that the matter of the TWA 800 flight that crashed > off Long Island is being revisited? Yore knote is mutch moore cryptic than usual. http://press.epixhd.com/press-releases/original-documentary-twa-flight-800/ They gave a vimeo password but no login - odd. P

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Mountain Man
Joe wrote: > ...Plus that the engine "shakes" Is the seller's name Ludmila Grobtken? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery op

Re: [MBZ] Asiana Crew Report - SFO Crash

2013-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
ernest breakfield wrote: i've read that the NTSB has stated that they didn't release these names and didn't have anything to do with this list, and that KTVU claims this came to them off of a national feed,... no matter where they got it from, it's indeed proof that there's nobody with a br

Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of air crashes

2013-07-15 Thread Peter Frederick
That subject was gnawed to death long ago. No, and I repeat NO high speed particulate damage found on any portion of the airframe, interior, or passengers, hence there was NOT an outside impact with high explosive. NTSB knows it's business, and I'm quite certain they know the difference

Re: [MBZ] OT Speaking of air crashes

2013-07-15 Thread Peter Frederick
It's gaining currency solely and only because interested parties with tons of money are flogging it. It is, was, and will always be baseless. Eyewitness accounts are very unreliable, and tend to change to suit "facts" as time goes on. No photographic evidence. Someone has a political agen

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread Larry T
You wrote: <> IIRC, I believe double paned glass was standard... My W124 is the best car we've ever owned but I still look at every W140 that comes my way. Every once in a while, I'll see a 600SEL and wonder what kind of budget it would take to keep one happy. Just hearing one crank up and

Re: [MBZ] Asiana Crew Report - SFO Crash

2013-07-15 Thread ernest breakfield
interesting. it says they did, and says they don't. how very Double-Speak of them. cheers! e On 15/Jul/13 15:39, Mitch Haley wrote: ernest breakfield wrote: i've read that the NTSB has stated that they didn't release these names and didn't have anything to do with this list, and that KTVU c

Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding

2013-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond
Just like my results with my '84 190D. The pressure bleeder made all the difference... -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:18:10 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding Message-ID: <51e404a2.5070...@constructivity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charse

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond
You always knew this was a possibility though... I wonder if the gasket was letting go when you had the hose failure. If combustion gas pressure was leaking into the cooling system it could easily have ruptured the hose. -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:30:17 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread WILTON
Yep; 'my thoughts, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news You always knew this was a possibility though... I wonder if the gasket was letting go when you had the hose failure

Re: [MBZ] Rear view cameras

2013-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond
At Autozone the other day I noticed they had add on backup cams with a wireless camera. Presumably the screen is something like a GPS screen where you could remove the screen when the vehicle is parked to keep it from being stolen. -Curt Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:37:39 -0500 From: Fmiser To: 

[MBZ] Sound Panel under W124 Engine and Transmission

2013-07-15 Thread Larry T
I asked this question embedded with comments about my battle with the gearshift grommet issue so many probably missed it -- The panels used to have a layer of foam on the plastic panels. The foam has mostly disappeared and I wonder what I should replace it with?I can get some 3/8" or 1/2"

Re: [MBZ] Sound Panel under W124 Engine and Transmission

2013-07-15 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Larry T wrote: > I asked this question embedded with comments about my battle with the > gearshift grommet issue so many probably missed it -- Maybe we're all just jealous that you have the belly panels at all. None of my 124s have had them. Alex ___

Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel

2013-07-15 Thread dseretakis
A good reason to avoid! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Joe wrote: >> ...Plus that the engine "shakes" > > Is the seller's name Ludmila Grobtken? > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Sound Panel under W124 Engine and Transmission

2013-07-15 Thread Craig
On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:54:57 -0400 Larry T wrote: > I asked this question embedded with comments about my battle with the > gearshift grommet issue so many probably missed it -- > > The panels used to have a layer of foam on the plastic panels. The foam > has mostly disappeared and I wonder wh

Re: [MBZ] Sound Panel under W124 Engine and Transmission

2013-07-15 Thread Peter Frederick
I believe there was some fiberglass like material on the front one on my 300D, but not on the single piece one on the TE. Mine are sitting in a friend's garage awaiting the next time I remember to pick up all the clips and screws to put them back on. Engine runs a bit cooler in traffic and

Re: [MBZ] Sound Panel under W124 Engine and Transmission

2013-07-15 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes the panels for my 90 300D are intact in the cellar where they have been for 8 years. On Monday, July 15, 2013, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Larry T wrote: >> I asked this question embedded with comments about my battle with the >> gearshift grommet issue so many

Re: [MBZ] Asiana Crew Report - SFO Crash

2013-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley
ernest breakfield wrote: interesting. it says they did, and says they don't. how very Double-Speak of them. It says they don't name pilots, and it says some intern took upon himself to do something they don't do. It also says they're taking steps to prevent it from happening again, which I

Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124

2013-07-15 Thread OK Don
I used spit. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Craig wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:28:45 -0500 Benz Hogs > wrote: > > > That's the general idea. Larry, did you try a bit of soapy water on > > the bushing? That might help slide her in place. > > I used Vasoline petroleum jelly. > > > Craig

Re: [MBZ] Asiana Crew Report - SFO Crash

2013-07-15 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley writes: > It also says they're taking steps to prevent it from happening again, which I > assume means somebody just flunked his summer semester by getting fired from > his > internship. All in all an epic prank though. Almost worth it, I'd say. -- Allan Streib ___

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread Kevin Kraly
If combustion gas pressure was leaking into the cooling system it could easily have ruptured the hose. Those were my exact thoughts when Wilton posted the 2y/o hose rupture. I hope it's not using oil and that a new, updated gasket (possibly a new head too) will fix it without having to tear i

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread WILTON
I had that thought, too, 'bout the hose rupture; thought I would have some some evidence, discoloration, etc., in overflow tnk. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kevin Kraly" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-15 Thread dseretakis
How many miles on the car? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:58 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > I had that thought, too, 'bout the hose rupture; thought I would have some > some evidence, discoloration, etc., in overflow tnk. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Kevin Kraly" >

[MBZ] Mercedes possible C- model recall for tail light fires.

2013-07-15 Thread Gerry Archer
Snip...In one complaint filed with NHTSA from February of this year, an owner said that while driving at night, the dashboard warning lights came on indicating tail light failures on both sides of the car. The driver pulled over and opened the trunk to find it full of smoke with the smell of