How tough is it to get to? Based on my knowledge I'm assuming it's next to the
evaporator?
Thanks,
Dan
On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:52 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
Stuck or plugged expansion valve. Probably not as much a leak as no
circulation.
Peter
On a 201 124, the expansion valve is under hood between bulkhead and fire
wall, drivers side, between fresh air intake and brake booster.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Air pump on eldest boy's W124 is making the putt-putt-putt sound when running.
I'm assuming there's maybe a leak somewhere, or the little valve on the output
is hinky?
Any negatives about disconnecting the pump and just ignoring it?
Dan
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Any tips/tricks to loosening the pipe connections on an '87 124? I've been
soaking them in PB Blaster for a couple days. They appear to be dissimilar
metals (hose vs. condenser fitting) and I am afraid they will gall badly
when I try to loosen them, similar to the galling that
That would not be the poos way would it? Must fix it.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Air pump on eldest boy's W124 is making the putt-putt-putt sound when
running. I'm assuming there's maybe a leak somewhere, or the
What would you be prepared to pay for a decent looking 87 420SEL?
Has 158K miles and looks good in photos.
Seller seems pretty stuck on his price as it has been for sale for at
least 6 months.
Asking price is $3500 Cdn.
RB
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About $1600
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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What would you be prepared to pay for a decent looking 87 420SEL?
Has 158K miles and looks good in photos.
Seller seems pretty stuck on his price as it has been for
Oops
Did not change the subject line
What would you be prepared to pay for a decent looking 87 420SEL?
Has 158K miles and looks good in photos.
Seller seems pretty stuck on his price as it has been for sale for at
least 6 months.
Asking price is $3500 Cdn.
RB
That's pretty steep for my market based on your description. More like a $2500
car around here if it's in good condition and everything works. Maybe $3000 if
it's really clean and has records.
Dan
On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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Oops
Ok, so the price is not stupid - just on the high side of what you would
think down where you are.
I am in Canada and there are a lot fewer of this sort of thing around here.
If we adjust for the difference in the dollar then we also take about
10% off these days too.
RB
On 22/09/2014 11:33
No, I don't think it's stupid, but I would expect it to be a pretty nice
specimen at that price.
Dan
On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
Ok, so the price is not stupid - just on the high side of what you would
think down where you are.
I am in Canada and
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/winnipeg/1987-mercedez-benz-420-series/454304279?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
On 22/09/2014 11:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
No, I don't think it's stupid, but I would expect it to be a pretty nice
specimen at that price.
Dan
On Sep 22, 2014,
It's a dealer, which explains the price. Get a PPI if you're interested.
Dan
On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/winnipeg/1987-mercedez-benz-420-series/454304279?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:13:01 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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Oops
Did not change the subject line
It would be nice, too, if you would start a new email instead of replying
to an existing thread, so it would have its own thread.
But that's being picky ...
On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 13:00:51 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
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On Sep 21, 2014 10:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Or use a sniffer
Yes, get a sniffer, they can make quick diagnosis easy, especially a
leaky evaporator.
I
Looks like a cheap cheap leak detector is about $25 from Amazon.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Meh. It's going to a trusted indie this afternoon. I don't really care to do
AC work, and this way it's done right without screwing anything up in the
process.
The first time in probably 4-5 years I've had to defer to an outside mechanic,
so I can't complain. The important thing is to know
Unless you have an ac machine, leak detectors etc you are better off leaving it
to the pros. I am not a pro but I do have all the proper equipment.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Meh. It's going to a trusted indie
On 22/09/2014 12:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:13:01 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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Oops
Did not change the subject line
It would be nice, too, if you would start a new email instead of replying
to an existing thread, so it would have
Which does result in a new thread in gmail . . .
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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On 22/09/2014 12:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:13:01 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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Oops
Yeah, but a Chevy dealer and about 90 miles away in a small town with no
one likely to be very knowledgeable about MB so not easy to do.
My guess, for what it is worth, is that the car maybe belonged to the
owner of the dealership or his wife, or father etc.
It just seems odd to me that they
There is one for sale here that has been for sale for quite a while for $1500
with 148k miles. Shame, these are nice cars and worth so much more.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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Yeah, but a Chevy dealer and about 90
Agreed. There's got to be some attachment or emotion involved, or they're
blinded by the tristar and have unrealistic ideas of its value.
There's a 3400 mile 1991 500SL on BW right now. The owners, an older couple
who bought the car new, went for a drive and found the car had a head gasket
Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Hi Manfred,
Why replace the R4? I've found them to work pretty well and be reasonably
smooth on the diesel. Power useage isn't too bad on the turbo too.
If you had a york (or a 240D), I'd understand... I just replaced one of
these with a sanden in a 70 280se with good
Pair of 116's anyone?
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.1980 Mercedes 300sd DIESEL
w116http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4678149780.html
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Fred, this would fill a gap in your fleet.
On Sep 22, 2014 3:20 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Pair of 116's anyone?
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.1980 Mercedes 300sd DIESEL w116
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4678149780.html
Get the behind me, Dwight!
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:48:23 -0400
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 Mercedes 300sd DIESEL w116
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Fred, this would fill a gap in your fleet.
On Sep 22, 2014
What would a used engine transplant cost? The car is awesomely pretty and
might be worth the investment since at some future time this model might be
deemed a classic.
The 420SEL OTOH has zero upside potential.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Would be tempting but for the fact that the seller doesn't seem to know
that these are TURBOdiesels...
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Pair of 116's anyone?
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.1980 Mercedes 300sd DIESEL w116
On 22/09/2014 5:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
The 420SEL OTOH has zero upside potential.
Not much likely if one drives it through the winters and puts another 2
or 3 hundred thousand k on it?
RB who does not have deep enough pockets or long enough arms to have a
car like
Did it grow up on the salted roads of Winnipooland? ;)
Wilt
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 420
Cheater handles on very closely fitting wrenches. None of mine have
been seized, although the ones on the TE would only come apart with
some help with a long wrench. Spun freely as soon as released.
They seat on an o-ring, not a taper, so they are unlikely to gall.
Shouldn't be that
Ivan Stang wrote:
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definition, fifty percent of the population is dumber than that.
I think the average person is actually quite smart.
ma
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You wouldn't buy that car for upside potential. You buy it because you like it
and want to drive it.
Anyone who buys a car of that age and vintage isn't buying it for upside
potential.
Dan
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com
My AC guy in FL would sometimes let the penetrating oil work for days (while
he worked on some other car) reapplying and testing a couple times a day.
He ran a small shop by himself that looked like a junk yard (stacks of dead
compressors, evaporators, etc. in the corners) but his repairs never
There is a separate thread in the For sale forum where a couple of people
have addressed that. A decent used low mile engine would be around $2k.
The problem with that is the loss of matching numbers, if that matters. If it
were me and I wanted to maintain the value and integrity, I would have
Their car is worth about 2k the way it sits.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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There is a separate thread in the For sale forum where a couple of people
have addressed that. A decent used low mile engine would be around
Your last statement needs a slight modification:
Kaleb: the reason for the Sanden over the York is that it uses
less power to do just a good enough a job.
The York will freeze you out of the car. Granted a 240D is dragged down to
puttering speed but snow is blowing out the vents. I've never
Yes I have always lusted in my heart (to quote President Carter) for a w116
diesel.
On Sep 22, 2014 8:30 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
So tempted...
-Curt
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Yea I need to get one.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Yes I have always lusted in my heart (to quote President Carter) for a w116
diesel.
On Sep 22, 2014 8:30 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
Have you ever had one? Here is a 2fer bargain.
On Sep 22, 2014 9:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Yea I need to get one.
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Yes I have always lusted
A colleague had one that I had for a weekend one time. Wonderful road car.
-Curt
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Yea I have had a few over the years. Have one that is a parts car and another
That is borderline parts car
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On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you ever had one? Here is a 2fer bargain.
On Sep 22, 2014 9:12 PM, Kaleb C.
Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
They could do it with the E250 and I would not complain one bit.
Are you suggesting that if MBUSA would let you buy a taxi grade E250 diesel
you'd consider it?
Mitch.
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How much would something like that cost? I'd probably consider it if they could
come in around $20k.
-Curt
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Well the 250 as offered now is around 59-60k, I have priced them. I can get
used with about 10k miles for less
Than 50k at carmax
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How much would something like that cost? I'd probably
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Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
They could do it with the E250 and I would not complain one bit.
Are you suggesting that if
No. The 123 300D's cost that in the 80's. Nice dream.
On Sep 22, 2014 9:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
How much would something like that cost? I'd probably consider it if they
could come in around $20k.
-Curt
From: Mitch
Given the $60k price of the USA version, I'm thinking $40k (average price of a
F250 Powerstroke ten years ago) would be a miracle.
Mitch.
On September 22, 2014 at 10:13 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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No. The 123 300D's cost that in the 80's. Nice dream.
On Sep
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