Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I'm still guessing rodent when the plug was out.  I'll never know.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
March 20, 2018 at 11:58 AM
That is just too weird. A mean joke by someone?

RB




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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

That is just too weird. A mean joke by someone?

RB

On 20/03/2018 11:41 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Not at that time, but it does now, after I got a long blowgun and blew 
out all 8 cyl.



tyee165 via Mercedes 
March 20, 2018 at 7:35 AM
So does it turn over now?



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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not at that time, but it does now, after I got a long blowgun and blew 
out all 8 cyl.



tyee165 via Mercedes 
March 20, 2018 at 7:35 AM
So does it turn over now?



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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

So does it turn over now?


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-03-15  3:34 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn 
It gets more weird.

I just took apart the intake.  No signs of popcorn or meeces anywhere.  
I have the upper and lower intakes off.  The engine is bare down to the 
valley of the casting.  Looking in the intake port of the valve, no 
signs of popcorn.  So the plug must have been taken out and popcorn put 
in at some time.

Strange!   Very strange!
> Curley McLain <mailto:126die...@gmail.com>
> March 13, 2018 at 8:23 PM
> No, it came back out the plug hole.  I wish I had my blow gun with the 
> 12" tube here.   That would make blowing out the combustion chambers 
> easier.  If the intake valve was open, the exhaust would be closed.
>
> If someone wants to send me an old android smartfone, I can look 
> inside with a borescope.   It has no software for ifone, so there is 
> no way to turn the light on unless I can get an android.
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Loving this thread.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018, 1:35 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It gets more weird.
>
> I just took apart the intake.  No signs of popcorn or meeces anywhere.
> I have the upper and lower intakes off.  The engine is bare down to the
> valley of the casting.  Looking in the intake port of the valve, no
> signs of popcorn.  So the plug must have been taken out and popcorn put
> in at some time.
>
> Strange!   Very strange!
> > Curley McLain 
> > March 13, 2018 at 8:23 PM
> > No, it came back out the plug hole.  I wish I had my blow gun with the
> > 12" tube here.   That would make blowing out the combustion chambers
> > easier.  If the intake valve was open, the exhaust would be closed.
> >
> > If someone wants to send me an old android smartfone, I can look
> > inside with a borescope.   It has no software for ifone, so there is
> > no way to turn the light on unless I can get an android.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It gets more weird.

I just took apart the intake.  No signs of popcorn or meeces anywhere.  
I have the upper and lower intakes off.  The engine is bare down to the 
valley of the casting.  Looking in the intake port of the valve, no 
signs of popcorn.  So the plug must have been taken out and popcorn put 
in at some time.


Strange!   Very strange!

Curley McLain 
March 13, 2018 at 8:23 PM
No, it came back out the plug hole.  I wish I had my blow gun with the 
12" tube here.   That would make blowing out the combustion chambers 
easier.  If the intake valve was open, the exhaust would be closed.


If someone wants to send me an old android smartfone, I can look 
inside with a borescope.   It has no software for ifone, so there is 
no way to turn the light on unless I can get an android.






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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Un-popped?  Must have been mice, stored somewhere in the intake, then sucked in 
when the engine was cranked. 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No, it came back out the plug hole.  I wish I had my blow gun with the 
12" tube here.   That would make blowing out the combustion chambers 
easier.  If the intake valve was open, the exhaust would be closed.


If someone wants to send me an old android smartfone, I can look inside 
with a borescope.   It has no software for ifone, so there is no way to 
turn the light on unless I can get an android.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 8:14 PM
Did it blow out an exhaust port? Just trying to imagine this scenario.


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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Did it blow out an exhaust port? Just trying to imagine this scenario. 

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Compressed air into the plug hole.  Popcorn started popping out right away.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM
>> All the rubber probably needs to be replaced anyway. Did you blow compressed 
>> air into a spark plug hole, or remove plug and blow into intake?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Wacko idea- is it possible that it is something other than popcorn?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 13, 2018 9:09 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Compressed air into the plug hole.  Popcorn started popping out right away.
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM
>> All the rubber probably needs to be replaced anyway. Did you blow
>> compressed air into a spark plug hole, or remove plug and blow into intake?
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Compressed air into the plug hole.  Popcorn started popping out right away.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 8:04 PM
All the rubber probably needs to be replaced anyway. Did you blow 
compressed air into a spark plug hole, or remove plug and blow into 
intake?




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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

All the rubber probably needs to be replaced anyway. Did you blow compressed 
air into a spark plug hole, or remove plug and blow into intake?

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> not yet.I am thinking there is popcorn holding a valve open or popcorn 
> still wedged in the combustion chamber.That is why I plan to take the 
> top/valley apart tomorrow.
> 
>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 3:45 PM
>> So, does the engine now turn over fully?
>> 
>> RB
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Really? 

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, I don't think that is a possibility at alll.   I did however have an 
> OM603 sabotaged one time.  Made to look like mice, but it was done by 2 
> legged rats.
> 
>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> March 13, 2018 at 3:50 PM
>> Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Or she ran over a cub scout  delivering popcorn he sold...

Actually it is not normal yellow popcorn.  it is a small kernel popcorn 
like what we used to call cuban popcorn.  about 1/8" dia  and 1/4 to 
3/16ths long.

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 4:23 PM
Maybe, or she ran it thru a popcorn factory

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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Haha!  I like that one!


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 4:00 PM
Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who 
tossed popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got 
sucked into the air intake?


That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Greg


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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No, I don't think that is a possibility at alll.   I did however have an 
OM603 sabotaged one time.  Made to look like mice, but it was done by 2 
legged rats.



Dimitri via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:50 PM
Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?



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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No.   Wanna buy a "rare popcorn popper M116?   See if you can outbid Floyd!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:46 PM
You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it 
turn over now?




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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

not yet.I am thinking there is popcorn holding a valve open or 
popcorn still wedged in the combustion chamber.That is why I plan to 
take the top/valley apart tomorrow.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:45 PM
So, does the engine now turn over fully?

RB



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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Send money!   Enough franklins, and you can own it!


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
March 13, 2018 at 3:43 PM
That is the M116 popcorn popper engine, very rare

--FT



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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Maybe it was in a circus wagon

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe, or she ran it thru a popcorn factory
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed
> popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the
> air intake?
> >
> > That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curley McLain via Mercedes
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:38 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Curley McLain
> > Subject: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn
> >
> > OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
> >
> > Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over
> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
> >
> > I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes,
> (plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
> >
> > Wait for it! ...
> >
> > . ..
> >
> > POPCORN!
> >
> > Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the
> > left bank.
> >
> > The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The
> distributor was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly
> robbed shortly after the accident.
> >
> > HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
> >
> > Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The
> spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner
> covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn
> there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow,
> to see if I find any other clues.
> >
> > When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
> >
> > Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that
> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
> >
> > The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be
> intact.  (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine
> > assembled.)
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Orville Redenbacher had relations with it?

https://youtu.be/XiGtFrRo5vg

-D


> On Mar 13, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe, or she ran it thru a popcorn factory
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed 
>> popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the 
>> air intake?
>> 
>> That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
>> 
>> Greg 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe, or she ran it thru a popcorn factory

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed 
> popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the air 
> intake?
> 
> That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
> 
> Greg 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curley 
> McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:38 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Curley McLain
> Subject: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn
> 
> OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
> 
> Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
> 
> I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
> out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
> 
> Wait for it! ...
> 
> . ..
> 
> POPCORN!
> 
> Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
> left bank.
> 
> The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
> out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly 
> after the accident.
> 
> HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
> 
> Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
> loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
> intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I 
> will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I 
> find any other clues.
> 
> When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
> 
> Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
> 
> The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  
> (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine
> assembled.)
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Did you lend it to Regina? ...and she drove it behind someone who tossed 
popcorn (popped or unpopped) out the window?...and it got sucked into the air 
intake?

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Greg 

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:38 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over completely 
on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.

I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..

Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.

The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly after 
the accident.

HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I will 
start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I find 
any other clues.

When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that meeses 
can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?

The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  (in 
all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine
assembled.)

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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Or, maybe someone was changing plugs but a bit slowly. Took them out and 
did not put them back in for a few days and a squirrel or 2 decided to 
store some food?


RB

On 13/03/2018 3:50 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it turn over 
now?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over completely 
on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.

I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..

Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the left 
bank.

The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly after 
the accident.

HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring loaded 
"valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the intake) was 
in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I will start to pull the 
stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I find any other clues.

When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that meeses 
can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?

The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  (in 
all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine assembled.)

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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The only thing I can think of is at some point a mouse somehow dropped it in 
the intake which in turn made its way into open valves or something. 

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:50 PM, Dimitri  wrote:
> 
> Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it turn 
>> over now?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
>>> 
>>> Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
>>> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
>>> 
>>> I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
>>> (plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
>>> 
>>> Wait for it! ...
>>> 
>>> . ..
>>> 
>>> POPCORN!
>>> 
>>> Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the left 
>>> bank.
>>> 
>>> The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor 
>>> was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed 
>>> shortly after the accident.
>>> 
>>> HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
>>> 
>>> Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The 
>>> spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner 
>>> covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn 
>>> there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, 
>>> to see if I find any other clues.
>>> 
>>> When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
>>> 
>>> Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
>>> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
>>> 
>>> The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  
>>> (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine assembled.)
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Huh?! Maybe a cruel prank on the previous owner?

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it turn 
> over now?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
>> 
>> Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
>> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
>> 
>> I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
>> (plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
>> 
>> Wait for it! ...
>> 
>> . ..
>> 
>> POPCORN!
>> 
>> Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the left 
>> bank.
>> 
>> The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor 
>> was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly 
>> after the accident.
>> 
>> HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
>> 
>> Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
>> loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
>> intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I 
>> will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I 
>> find any other clues.
>> 
>> When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
>> 
>> Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
>> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
>> 
>> The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  
>> (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine assembled.)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You got to be shitting me. I have never seen that before. So does it turn over 
now?

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> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:
> 
> Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
> completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.
> 
> I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, (plugs 
> out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..
> 
> Wait for it! ...
> 
> . ..
> 
> POPCORN!
> 
> Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the left 
> bank.
> 
> The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The distributor was 
> out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or possibly robbed shortly 
> after the accident.
> 
> HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?
> 
> Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The spring 
> loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner covers the 
> intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any popcorn there.  I 
> will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine tomorrow, to see if I 
> find any other clues.
> 
> When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.
> 
> Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
> meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?
> 
> The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be intact.  
> (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine assembled.)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, does the engine now turn over fully?

RB


On 13/03/2018 3:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.


I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
(plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..


Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.    Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.


The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The 
distributor was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or 
possibly robbed shortly after the accident.


HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve. The 
spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner 
covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any 
popcorn there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the 
engine tomorrow, to see if I find any other clues.


When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor 
that meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?


The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be 
intact.  (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine 
assembled.)


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Re: [MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That is the M116 popcorn popper engine, very rare

--FT


On 3/13/18 4:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.


I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
(plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..


Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.    Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.


The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The 
distributor was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or 
possibly robbed shortly after the accident.


HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve. The 
spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner 
covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any 
popcorn there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the 
engine tomorrow, to see if I find any other clues.


When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor 
that meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?


The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be 
intact.  (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine 
assembled.)


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[MBZ] M116 Popcorn

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

OK Youse Guyz with M116/M117 experience:

Today I got back to that M116 that is not stuck, but won't turn over 
completely on 2 pistons TDC.  It turns about 330-345 degrees.


I cranked up the BIG compressor and blew air in the 2 offending holes, 
(plugs out).  Out of the one  on the left bank pops..


Wait for it! ...

. ..

POPCORN!

Yep, yellow popcorn kernels.Coming out of the 3rd hold back on the 
left bank.


The plugs and plug wires did not appear to be disturbed.  The 
distributor was out, presumably broken/bent in the collision, or 
possibly robbed shortly after the accident.


HOW COULD POPCORN GET IN THE CYL IF THE PLUGS WERE NOT DISTURBED?

Presumably the only other way was through the open intake valve.  The 
spring loaded "valve" on the top of the engine (where the air cleaner 
covers the intake) was in place, and there did not appear to be any 
popcorn there.  I will start to pull the stuff off the top of the engine 
tomorrow, to see if I find any other clues.


When I cleaned the engine outsides, there was no popcorn evident.

Is there something in the engine valley under the fuel distributor that 
meeses can chew through to store popcorn in the engine?


The big air horn appears to be intact.  the air hoses appear to be 
intact.  (in all cases, as far as I can see with the top of the engine 
assembled.)


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