Re: [MBZ] MBZ history?
Yeah, and the Vets list (www.mb-veterans.com) is moribund as well. On 1/1/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard had all the seperate lists, I have basically combined all the lists into one here with a few exceptions. The only specialty lists are the SL list and the vets list for older cars. They are there but not much goes on with them. Most of the activity is here and just about any question can probably be answered. Werner Fehlauer wrote: Thanks, Kaleb - I wasn't aware of just what the timing (or the reason) for the Ritter/Easley list origination, or just how Richard Sexton got involved. I was fully involved with the old MBCA lists, and was ashamed of how a few empire builders treated Kathy, who gave her all for the good of mthe club and the lists she was mother to. And when a few insiders (who didn't take dissent well or at all) ran off Todd Knutson and Jay Obrien, plus several other good guys, I was happy that someone picked up the challenge to keep a few nets going. But you are correct, when things crashed, it got kind of lonesome, and I really appreciate you taking the challenge. What I didn't know was how things had transitioned from the days of Richard Sexton to now, mainly because I had to drop off for a couple of long periods due to medical and other issues. I do have a concern though that with too many sub nets, that we may be losing out on the social and technical aspects of a larger group. From what I can see, there may be lots of lurkers, but there is no way to know which net to send out a question for a particular interest. That may just be a lack of my own understanding, or perhaps a realization that there are more nets that need to be monitored (and to be careful of using in response?). Anyway, Happy New Year, and keep smiling. Enjoy the winter weather, which you folks in the plains have been nice enough to keep away from the East Coast! Werner -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ history?
What are you wanting to know? How the lists came to be? Here is the short version. There was the dave lefarber list which still exists but has no traffic. People got tired of Cookies over there flaming everyone etc so that is when the Ritter/Easley list started. At the same time there was the official MBCA list which Kathy ran. The ritter list turned into a dictatorship basically, as it still is. Stu and easley started kicking people off for no good reason really. When he kicked Richard Sexton, Gary Hurst, and myself off, that is when mbz.org was formed. People started flocking there to get away from the ritter/easly list. It was a very sucessful list. Rusty entered the picture later on. That went on for a couple of years then I started admin some of the lists, then almost all of the lists there. A couple of years ago, after several crashes, they crashed and burned to never return it seemed. I started striplin.net and moved all the subscriber lists over there as a temp measure to keep the lists going till Richard could get mbz.org fixed again. Well that never happened so I then created okiebenz.com to be the permenant home of the lists. There you have the short version. Werner Fehlauer wrote: I apologize if this has been cussed and discussed, but I've lost the bubble as to the sequence of events (and perhaps a bit of reasoning) behind how these nets have transfigured themselves. I am aware and dismayed about how the original technical (and leader's list) net that had more or less the blessings of MBCA were summarily closed in the Saturday Night Massacre, and how Kathy Kennel (RIP) did her best to keep some civility in the succeeding mbz nets. But it appears that there are now a plethora of nets, that IMO have reduced the content we used to have - where a lot of technical issues arose daily, and usually 6 or more responses appeared almost within hours. So what historical events have I missed?? TIA Werner ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MBZ history?
Thanks, Kaleb - I wasn't aware of just what the timing (or the reason) for the Ritter/Easley list origination, or just how Richard Sexton got involved. I was fully involved with the old MBCA lists, and was ashamed of how a few empire builders treated Kathy, who gave her all for the good of mthe club and the lists she was mother to. And when a few insiders (who didn't take dissent well or at all) ran off Todd Knutson and Jay Obrien, plus several other good guys, I was happy that someone picked up the challenge to keep a few nets going. But you are correct, when things crashed, it got kind of lonesome, and I really appreciate you taking the challenge. What I didn't know was how things had transitioned from the days of Richard Sexton to now, mainly because I had to drop off for a couple of long periods due to medical and other issues. I do have a concern though that with too many sub nets, that we may be losing out on the social and technical aspects of a larger group. From what I can see, there may be lots of lurkers, but there is no way to know which net to send out a question for a particular interest. That may just be a lack of my own understanding, or perhaps a realization that there are more nets that need to be monitored (and to be careful of using in response?). Anyway, Happy New Year, and keep smiling. Enjoy the winter weather, which you folks in the plains have been nice enough to keep away from the East Coast! Werner - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBZ history? What are you wanting to know? How the lists came to be? Here is the short version. There was the dave lefarber list which still exists but has no traffic. People got tired of Cookies over there flaming everyone etc so that is when the Ritter/Easley list started. At the same time there was the official MBCA list which Kathy ran. The ritter list turned into a dictatorship basically, as it still is. Stu and easley started kicking people off for no good reason really. When he kicked Richard Sexton, Gary Hurst, and myself off, that is when mbz.org was formed. People started flocking there to get away from the ritter/easly list. It was a very sucessful list. Rusty entered the picture later on. That went on for a couple of years then I started admin some of the lists, then almost all of the lists there. A couple of years ago, after several crashes, they crashed and burned to never return it seemed. I started striplin.net and moved all the subscriber lists over there as a temp measure to keep the lists going till Richard could get mbz.org fixed again. Well that never happened so I then created okiebenz.com to be the permenant home of the lists. There you have the short version. Werner Fehlauer wrote: I apologize if this has been cussed and discussed, but I've lost the bubble as to the sequence of events (and perhaps a bit of reasoning) behind how these nets have transfigured themselves. I am aware and dismayed about how the original technical (and leader's list) net that had more or less the blessings of MBCA were summarily closed in the Saturday Night Massacre, and how Kathy Kennel (RIP) did her best to keep some civility in the succeeding mbz nets. But it appears that there are now a plethora of nets, that IMO have reduced the content we used to have - where a lot of technical issues arose daily, and usually 6 or more responses appeared almost within hours. So what historical events have I missed?? TIA Werner Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ history?
Richard had all the seperate lists, I have basically combined all the lists into one here with a few exceptions. The only specialty lists are the SL list and the vets list for older cars. They are there but not much goes on with them. Most of the activity is here and just about any question can probably be answered. Werner Fehlauer wrote: Thanks, Kaleb - I wasn't aware of just what the timing (or the reason) for the Ritter/Easley list origination, or just how Richard Sexton got involved. I was fully involved with the old MBCA lists, and was ashamed of how a few empire builders treated Kathy, who gave her all for the good of mthe club and the lists she was mother to. And when a few insiders (who didn't take dissent well or at all) ran off Todd Knutson and Jay Obrien, plus several other good guys, I was happy that someone picked up the challenge to keep a few nets going. But you are correct, when things crashed, it got kind of lonesome, and I really appreciate you taking the challenge. What I didn't know was how things had transitioned from the days of Richard Sexton to now, mainly because I had to drop off for a couple of long periods due to medical and other issues. I do have a concern though that with too many sub nets, that we may be losing out on the social and technical aspects of a larger group. From what I can see, there may be lots of lurkers, but there is no way to know which net to send out a question for a particular interest. That may just be a lack of my own understanding, or perhaps a realization that there are more nets that need to be monitored (and to be careful of using in response?). Anyway, Happy New Year, and keep smiling. Enjoy the winter weather, which you folks in the plains have been nice enough to keep away from the East Coast! Werner -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] MBZ history?
I apologize if this has been cussed and discussed, but I've lost the bubble as to the sequence of events (and perhaps a bit of reasoning) behind how these nets have transfigured themselves. I am aware and dismayed about how the original technical (and leader's list) net that had more or less the blessings of MBCA were summarily closed in the Saturday Night Massacre, and how Kathy Kennel (RIP) did her best to keep some civility in the succeeding mbz nets. But it appears that there are now a plethora of nets, that IMO have reduced the content we used to have - where a lot of technical issues arose daily, and usually 6 or more responses appeared almost within hours. So what historical events have I missed?? TIA Werner
