Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
There are plenty of older non DEF trucks running around here in NC. If the situation changes, and only new trucks get to operate on the roads, there will be even more shortages, and a huge amount of truckers will be forced to go out of business or raise prices even higher to afford to buy

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What are you on about? DEF gets made right here in the US of A. -Curt On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 11:05:51 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: All trucks in California, [and now everywhere] for example, are required to pass EPA rules, which means only new production trucks are allowed to be

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Grant, I did a simple search and found multiple suppliers of automotive bureau. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=commercial+sources+of+automotive+urea=ffab=web On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:05 AM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > All trucks in California, [and now everywhere] for example, are required to >

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
All trucks in California, [and now everywhere] for example, are required to pass EPA rules, which means only new production trucks are allowed to be licensed. All those use DEF, made from Urea, which is now shut off from export from Russia.. If a new DEF truck runs out of DEF Fluid, the magic

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
EPA are considering imposing more stringent emissions standards on trucks so that should help --FT Sent from iFōn > On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:42 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with parts > made in china and we need russian

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with parts made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer [and

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
no problems.  price of nickels is up 90%, your nickels are now worth 10cents, you can pay for gas with nickels that are worth double and that will offset the doubling of gas prices Cmon man we're in the Moral Equivalent of War (MEOW!)!

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
US oil traders already don't want to buy Russian oil, sanctioning it from our side won't effect much here. Europe is crapping it's collective pants... -Curt On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 10:25:50 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Current prices have already discounted

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Current prices have already discounted cutting off the small amount of Russian oil that we import. Roughly 3 percent or 209,000 barrels/day. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:50 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about? > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't seem to understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the price of oil in the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe. I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops importing

Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about? On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from Russia > prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH