Re: [MBZ] 1967 200D labor of love

2007-12-30 Thread OK Don
It looks like a good project! I saw some surface rust behind the
panels you cut out - did you use anything like POR in there before
closing it up? Did you run complete beads around the replacement
panels, or leave them tacked in place, and sealed them with body
filler?

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Re: [MBZ] 1967 200D labor of love

2007-12-30 Thread E M
Nice work.

Ed
300E

On 30/12/2007, Bob Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bought this car 3 years ago from the daughter of the original owner,
 Rolf Seidel.  He had bought it new in Red Deer on February 8, 1968 for
 $5,665.  (I have the Bill of Sale.)  It was located on a ranch west of Red
 Deer, Alberta and had spent it's whole life there.   Rolf passed away a
 number of years ago and his daughter, who had being storing it and driving
 it occasionally decided it was time to find a new home for it.

 We knew each other through a work connection.  We were at a Christmas
 function and  another fellow and I were talking about our old vehicles - his
 a 56 Chevy and mine a 51 Willys pickup  (
 http://picasaweb.google.com/hamibob/WillysTruck)  She mentioned that she
 had an old car she was wanting to sell - our ears perked up.  I subsequently
 went and looked at it, decided to buy it and then drove it home to Spruce
 Grove, west of Edmonton - about 2 hours.  They had recently had the motor
 rebuilt so it drives nicely - no power, not much speed but smooth.  At least
 that's what I remember as I haven't driven it for 3 years!

 Once I got it in the workshop, I discovered that the rust was quite a bit
 worse than what I originally thought (isn't it always!).  I worked on it a
 bunch when I first got it and then have not been too motivated to do much
 until the last couple weeks.  Now, I'm moving nicely in getting the rusty
 metal cut out, fabricating new pieces, welding them in and getting it ready
 to paint.  I thought I'd share with you where I am at.  I had noticed some
 discussion about welding lately - I'm guessing none of you are welding like
 what  I am doing!

 The pictures of my progression to date are at:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/hamibob/1967MercedesBenz200D

 Wish me luck!!.  Bob

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Re: [MBZ] 1967 200D labor of love

2007-12-30 Thread archer
Wow!  You have your work cut out for you; especially at the bottom of the 
left rear door.  Before and after pictures will be interesting.

I had the same year/model car and did work on the fender.  The metal was 
supposed to be shrunk after repair by using a special tool that made 
corrugations which were then filled in.  Don't know how successful the 
shrinking was, but the fender held up fine to the end.
Gerry
'83 300D and 240D
Central Florida Gulfcoast
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- Original Message - 
From: Bob Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I bought this car 3 years ago from the daughter of the original owner, Rolf 
Seidel.  He had bought it new in Red Deer on February 8, 1968 for $5,665. 
(I have the Bill of Sale.)  It was located on a ranch west of Red Deer, 
Alberta and had spent it's whole life there.   Rolf passed away a number 
of years ago and his daughter, who had being storing it and driving it 
occasionally decided it was time to find a new home for it.
 We knew each other through a work connection.  We were at a Christmas 
 function and  another fellow and I were talking about our old vehicles - 
 his a 56 Chevy and mine a 51 Willys pickup 
 (http://picasaweb.google.com/hamibob/WillysTruck)  She mentioned that she 
 had an old car she was wanting to sell - our ears perked up.  I 
 subsequently went and looked at it, decided to buy it and then drove it 
 home to Spruce Grove, west of Edmonton - about 2 hours.  They had recently 
 had the motor rebuilt so it drives nicely - no power, not much speed but 
 smooth.  At least that's what I remember as I haven't driven it for 3 
 years!
 Once I got it in the workshop, I discovered that the rust was quite a bit 
 worse than what I originally thought (isn't it always!).  I worked on it a 
 bunch when I first got it and then have not been too motivated to do much 
 until the last couple weeks.  Now, I'm moving nicely in getting the rusty 
 metal cut out, fabricating new pieces, welding them in and getting it 
 ready to paint.  I thought I'd share with you where I am at.  I had 
 noticed some discussion about welding lately - I'm guessing none of you 
 are welding like what  I am doing!
 The pictures of my progression to date are at: 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/hamibob/1967MercedesBenz200D
 Wish me luck!!.  Bob


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Re: [MBZ] 1967 200D labor of love

2007-12-30 Thread LWB250
Good for you, Bob!  The finnies have always been and
always will be my favorite MB chassis.  There is just
something so classic about that body style that
doesn't existing in other MB models. 

Now you've got me pinin' for my former 62 300SE.

Dan

 
--- Bob Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bought this car 3 years ago from the daughter of
 the original owner, Rolf Seidel.  He had bought it
 new in Red Deer on February 8, 1968 for $5,665.  (I
 have the Bill of Sale.)  It was located on a ranch
 west of Red Deer, Alberta and had spent it's whole
 life there.   Rolf passed away a number of years
 ago and his daughter, who had being storing it and
 driving it occasionally decided it was time to find
 a new home for it.
 



  

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Re: [MBZ] 1967 200D labor of love

2007-12-30 Thread Bob Hamilton
Yes, before I close up the rocker panels, I coat the inside with a rust 
inhibitor type paint.  On the drivers side, I replaced the whole rocker so it 
was easy to coat but on the passenger side, it's a bit better so I'm patching 
the rocker rather than replacing it entirely.  Fortunately(?), the holes are 
big enough that I can get in there and clean it up and then slop the paint 
around.  By the time I am done, I will have coated the whole bottom of the car 
and all the parts where rust of any type is visible.  I'm doing it primarily 
with a paint brush.  (I won't use a paint brush for the outside!)



I don't weld around the whole panel that I am replacing for a couple reasons.  
First, continuous welding causes warping.  Second, it is plenty strong enough 
by tacking every few inches.  Third, a lot of the stuff that I am welding to 
isn't always real strong.  I typically cut out anything that is weak but the 
old metal isn't as easy to weld to as the new stuff - quite easy to blow holes 
if you aren't careful.  Fourth, the original rocker panels are not continuous 
welded - they are tack welded every few inches.



So, I tack it so that it is strong.  Then I grind it down a bit, then put on 
some seam sealer to close the all the holes that are left.  Next, I'll apply 
some bondo in places that I want to look pretty and will be painting the car 
color.  Inside the wheel wells, underneath and the inside, I'll put on some 
high build rockerguard type coating.  That will nicely hide my bad welding!
..  Bob



Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:56:54 -0600

From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1967 200D labor of love



It looks like a good project! I saw some surface rust behind the panels you cut 
out - did you use anything like POR in there before closing it up? Did you run 
complete beads around the replacement panels, or leave them tacked in place, 
and sealed them with body filler?



Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007

From: Bob Hamilton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1967 200D labor of love



The pictures of my progression to date are at: 
http://picasaweb.google.com/hamibob/1967MercedesBenz200D

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