Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
My wife's '96 Infiniti I30 has about 227k miles now, we may be nearing the end for this car. Rack and pinion steering needs about $800 in repairs, mostly labor. Engine and five speed manual transmission are great, body finally staying to show a little rust, interior is holding up exceptionally well (synthetic cloth seats). Decision time... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Put it this way - one never hears anything these days about cars kicking the bucket at 100k miles. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My wife's '96 Infiniti I30 has about 227k miles now, we may be nearing the end for this car. Rack and pinion steering needs about $800 in repairs, mostly labor. Engine and five speed manual transmission are great, body finally staying to show a little rust, interior is holding up exceptionally well (synthetic cloth seats). Decision time... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Put it this way - one never hears anything these days about cars kicking the bucket at 100k miles. In the 70's, 100,000 miles was big deal, but my dad sold a good running 1977 Nova with 144,000 miles and nothing but brake, exhaust and suspension work done on it. The clutch was still in pretty solid shape. 60,000 was pretty much expected by 1970, and people bitched like heck when 30,000 mile Vegas blew clouds of blue smoke. I suspect it's uncommon for me to have put 232k on a 1989 Plymouth Horizon, but I don't see why any computerized fuel injected car can't go 200k with good filters and a manual transmission. And most anything made in the last 15 years people expect at least 150k per automatic tranny. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
The first car my Dad owned after leaving General Motors in 1969 was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. He drove the heck out of that car but babied it as far as maintenance. He ended up selling it in 1973 or 4 with over 250k. That was pretty much unheard of at the time from what I recall. I don't know what engine it had, other than it being a V8, but I do recall the most significant work he had done on it was a valve job. Beautiful car, blue with white accents and several hundred pounds of chrome. As a kid I was intrigued by the rollers it had on the radio instead of knobs. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Put it this way - one never hears anything these days about cars kicking the bucket at 100k miles. In the 70's, 100,000 miles was big deal, but my dad sold a good running 1977 Nova with 144,000 miles and nothing but brake, exhaust and suspension work done on it. The clutch was still in pretty solid shape. 60,000 was pretty much expected by 1970, and people bitched like heck when 30,000 mile Vegas blew clouds of blue smoke. I suspect it's uncommon for me to have put 232k on a 1989 Plymouth Horizon, but I don't see why any computerized fuel injected car can't go 200k with good filters and a manual transmission. And most anything made in the last 15 years people expect at least 150k per automatic tranny. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
You lost me, Dan. Rollers on a radio? On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The first car my Dad owned after leaving General Motors in 1969 was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. He drove the heck out of that car but babied it as far as maintenance. He ended up selling it in 1973 or 4 with over 250k. That was pretty much unheard of at the time from what I recall. I don't know what engine it had, other than it being a V8, but I do recall the most significant work he had done on it was a valve job. Beautiful car, blue with white accents and several hundred pounds of chrome. As a kid I was intrigued by the rollers it had on the radio instead of knobs. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Put it this way - one never hears anything these days about cars kicking the bucket at 100k miles. In the 70's, 100,000 miles was big deal, but my dad sold a good running 1977 Nova with 144,000 miles and nothing but brake, exhaust and suspension work done on it. The clutch was still in pretty solid shape. 60,000 was pretty much expected by 1970, and people bitched like heck when 30,000 mile Vegas blew clouds of blue smoke. I suspect it's uncommon for me to have put 232k on a 1989 Plymouth Horizon, but I don't see why any computerized fuel injected car can't go 200k with good filters and a manual transmission. And most anything made in the last 15 years people expect at least 150k per automatic tranny. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Think sideways knobs RB On 07/10/2014 2:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: You lost me, Dan. Rollers on a radio? On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The first car my Dad owned after leaving General Motors in 1969 was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. He drove the heck out of that car but babied it as far as maintenance. He ended up selling it in 1973 or 4 with over 250k. That was pretty much unheard of at the time from what I recall. I don't know what engine it had, other than it being a V8, but I do recall the most significant work he had done on it was a valve job. Beautiful car, blue with white accents and several hundred pounds of chrome. As a kid I was intrigued by the rollers it had on the radio instead of knobs. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Put it this way - one never hears anything these days about cars kicking the bucket at 100k miles. In the 70's, 100,000 miles was big deal, but my dad sold a good running 1977 Nova with 144,000 miles and nothing but brake, exhaust and suspension work done on it. The clutch was still in pretty solid shape. 60,000 was pretty much expected by 1970, and people bitched like heck when 30,000 mile Vegas blew clouds of blue smoke. I suspect it's uncommon for me to have put 232k on a 1989 Plymouth Horizon, but I don't see why any computerized fuel injected car can't go 200k with good filters and a manual transmission. And most anything made in the last 15 years people expect at least 150k per automatic tranny. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Thumbwheels appear to be the proper terminology: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Fullsize-Monaco-Polara-Thumbwheel-AM-Radio-Serviced-Plays-Good-/221559503639?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item3395f9bb17vxp=mtr Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You lost me, Dan. Rollers on a radio? On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The first car my Dad owned after leaving General Motors in 1969 was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. He drove the heck out of that car but babied it as far as maintenance. He ended up selling it in 1973 or 4 with over 250k. That was pretty much unheard of at the time from what I recall. I don't know what engine it had, other than it being a V8, but I do recall the most significant work he had done on it was a valve job. Beautiful car, blue with white accents and several hundred pounds of chrome. As a kid I was intrigued by the rollers it had on the radio instead of knobs. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Put it this way - one never hears anything these days about cars kicking the bucket at 100k miles. In the 70's, 100,000 miles was big deal, but my dad sold a good running 1977 Nova with 144,000 miles and nothing but brake, exhaust and suspension work done on it. The clutch was still in pretty solid shape. 60,000 was pretty much expected by 1970, and people bitched like heck when 30,000 mile Vegas blew clouds of blue smoke. I suspect it's uncommon for me to have put 232k on a 1989 Plymouth Horizon, but I don't see why any computerized fuel injected car can't go 200k with good filters and a manual transmission. And most anything made in the last 15 years people expect at least 150k per automatic tranny. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Oh that is so cool - and I have never seen one before! On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thumbwheels appear to be the proper terminology: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Dodge-Fullsize-Monaco-Polara-Thumbwheel-AM-Radio-Serviced-Plays-Good-/221559503639?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item3395f9bb17vxp=mtr Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You lost me, Dan. Rollers on a radio? On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The first car my Dad owned after leaving General Motors in 1969 was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. He drove the heck out of that car but babied it as far as maintenance. He ended up selling it in 1973 or 4 with over 250k. That was pretty much unheard of at the time from what I recall. I don't know what engine it had, other than it being a V8, but I do recall the most significant work he had done on it was a valve job. Beautiful car, blue with white accents and several hundred pounds of chrome. As a kid I was intrigued by the rollers it had on the radio instead of knobs. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Put it this way - one never hears anything these days about cars kicking the bucket at 100k miles. In the 70's, 100,000 miles was big deal, but my dad sold a good running 1977 Nova with 144,000 miles and nothing but brake, exhaust and suspension work done on it. The clutch was still in pretty solid shape. 60,000 was pretty much expected by 1970, and people bitched like heck when 30,000 mile Vegas blew clouds of blue smoke. I suspect it's uncommon for me to have put 232k on a 1989 Plymouth Horizon, but I don't see why any computerized fuel injected car can't go 200k with good filters and a manual transmission. And most anything made in the last 15 years people expect at least 150k per automatic tranny. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
we had campers (Volkswagen and Chevy) back in the '70s that we put a couple hundred thousand miles on; i think it's got a lot to do with how people used and maintained their equipment, but my dad grew up playing with powerboats, and being an Engineer, kept things in good trim. now, our W123 300Dt with about 255K miles on it is the low-mileage car in the stable, and the car we use for thousand-mile-weekends. it does it in comfort at speed with relative ease. the J**p is what we use for Sport, Utility, and to get 'Out There', and it's got more mileage on it than the 300D. it went over 200K before it needed anything major (transmission), and i finally rebuilt the motor at about 250K because i can't replace it with anything comparable on the market today. the wife's early '90s Toyoduh is the one that gets burned up on the commute at over 340K miles. paint looks awful, but the AC, auto trans and stereo still work. much as i want to hate it (because i physically don't fit in it), it still passes smog and gets 30 MPG on Regular, so i can't justify replacing it. cheers! e On 07/Oct/14 12:03, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: In the 70's, 100,000 miles was big deal, but my dad sold a good running 1977 Nova with 144,000 miles and nothing but brake, exhaust and suspension work done on it. The clutch was still in pretty solid shape. 60,000 was pretty much expected by 1970, and people bitched like heck when 30,000 mile Vegas blew clouds of blue smoke. I suspect it's uncommon for me to have put 232k on a 1989 Plymouth Horizon, but I don't see why any computerized fuel injected car can't go 200k with good filters and a manual transmission. And most anything made in the last 15 years people expect at least 150k per automatic tranny. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Can't buy much car for $800. In fact $800 is only around 2 payments on a $25,000 car... -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel My wife's '96 Infiniti I30 has about 227k miles now, we may be nearing the end for this car. Rack and pinion steering needs about $800 in repairs, mostly labor. Engine and five speed manual transmission are great, body finally staying to show a little rust, interior is holding up exceptionally well (synthetic cloth seats). Decision time... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. Tell 'em it takes a few years to rack up the million miles or so they are capable of. Only so many driving hours in a day... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 07:13:58 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. Tell 'em it takes a few years to rack up the million miles or so they are capable of. Only so many driving hours in a day... At 50 mph, 24x7x365 that would be only 2 years, 3 months, 12 days, 2 hours, 1 minute, 54.4 seconds! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Would have to figure out an in flight refueling system (for both car and crew), dual controls to make crew rotation easier, waste disposal, and probably a dry sump engine design to facilitate oil changes, using a dual tank design so the off-duty tank of old oil could be emptied and refilled with fresh oil. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 6, 2014 11:01 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: At 50 mph, 24x7x365 that would be only 2 years, 3 months, 12 days, 2 hours, 1 minute, 54.4 seconds! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
In '98 I did a 6000 mile summer trip in my 1980 300D. I also took my '77 240D on a 3100 mile summer jaunt in '08 or '09. People thought I was nuts each time. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
I did a run from San Francisco to Tampa in 1998 in my 300SD, a couple of days running almost non-stop for probably 15 hours or more. The car never missed a beat. I would do the same in any of my current cars, even though they are vergassers. Two of them have over 266k on them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In '98 I did a 6000 mile summer trip in my 1980 300D. I also took my '77 240D on a 3100 mile summer jaunt in '08 or '09. People thought I was nuts each time. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
In '98 I did a 6000 mile summer trip in my 1980 300D. I also took my '77 240D on a 3100 mile summer jaunt in '08 or '09. People thought I was nuts each time. Expect to see that attitude get worse. I believe we've already experienced the service longevity peak, and that the mileage expectation of our national fleet will go _down_ from here. More complex application-specific parts will be to blame. Once the official line of spares is exhausted, these vehicles will be rendered permanently hors du combat. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Really? I figure any junk asian car you buy today to last 200,000 miles at LEAST. The rust prevention is better and the electronics are all vastly more robust even if they are black box type. Purportedly the average age of today's fleet is 11 years. Looking just at Toyota Tundra pickups I'd believe it, they changed body styles in 2007 and there are a ton of the older ones around. -Curt From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel In '98 I did a 6000 mile summer trip in my 1980 300D. I also took my '77 240D on a 3100 mile summer jaunt in '08 or '09. People thought I was nuts each time. Expect to see that attitude get worse. I believe we've already experienced the service longevity peak, and that the mileage expectation of our national fleet will go _down_ from here. More complex application-specific parts will be to blame. Once the official line of spares is exhausted, these vehicles will be rendered permanently hors du combat. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
My old car now is an '05 E320 with 160K on the clock. SWMBO was driving it 65 miles a day round trip all surface streets to work. I drove it for the first time in about 4 months last week. I could feel the transmission mounts failing. Going to go to the indy about an hour to get transmission mounts, motor mounts, transmission service, correct the seepage where the electrical connection hooks into the transmission, and get the oil changed. SWMBO just took a job 2.5 miles from our house. So, I think I'll drive the E320 the 85 rt a day and let her drive the CLK to work That will save me some sweet moolah on those damn expensive tires. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Speaking of Asian cars, I think my favorite Asian car bar none is the first generation Acura legends. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
I have a set of stock alloys from a 2003 SL that are waiting to go on my 97 SL500. They're staggered 18 wheels, 8 in the front and 9 in the back. I've been pricing a matched set of tires for them and the prices are enough to make me choke. I'll easily have $1000 or more in tires alone when I put them into service. Ouch! Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: My old car now is an '05 E320 with 160K on the clock. SWMBO was driving it 65 miles a day round trip all surface streets to work. I drove it for the first time in about 4 months last week. I could feel the transmission mounts failing. Going to go to the indy about an hour to get transmission mounts, motor mounts, transmission service, correct the seepage where the electrical connection hooks into the transmission, and get the oil changed. SWMBO just took a job 2.5 miles from our house. So, I think I'll drive the E320 the 85 rt a day and let her drive the CLK to work That will save me some sweet moolah on those damn expensive tires. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:45:02 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have a set of stock alloys from a 2003 SL that are waiting to go on my 97 SL500. They're staggered 18 wheels, 8 in the front and 9 in the back. I've been pricing a matched set of tires for them and the prices are enough to make me choke. I'll easily have $1000 or more in tires alone when I put them into service. Ouch! Ouch, indeed!!! I guess I won't complain about tires in the $400 ballpark ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Exactly. I have talked to a number of SL owners who swear by the difference in drive ability with larger diameter wheels with wider tires, but I'm wondering if it's really worth it. I will say that the sting is not quite as bad when I figure in the cost of the wheels. They were take-offs from a brand new SL that I picked up off of Craigslist for $300. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:45:02 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have a set of stock alloys from a 2003 SL that are waiting to go on my 97 SL500. They're staggered 18 wheels, 8 in the front and 9 in the back. I've been pricing a matched set of tires for them and the prices are enough to make me choke. I'll easily have $1000 or more in tires alone when I put them into service. Ouch! Ouch, indeed!!! I guess I won't complain about tires in the $400 ballpark ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Not sure about the new stuff, but the older asian cars do tend to run to almost 200k. the honda, toyota, acura stuff I had lasted through 150k without issues. As long as proper service was done. Getting past 180k was pushing need for major overhauls of engine as well as body. Probably like the W115 and W123. The E300D also sort of began to fade at 180. More $$$ for heavy projects to keep it going past 200k. clay On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Really? I figure any junk asian car you buy today to last 200,000 miles at LEAST. The rust prevention is better and the electronics are all vastly more robust even if they are black box type. Purportedly the average age of today's fleet is 11 years. Looking just at Toyota Tundra pickups I'd believe it, they changed body styles in 2007 and there are a ton of the older ones around. -Curt From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel In '98 I did a 6000 mile summer trip in my 1980 300D. I also took my '77 240D on a 3100 mile summer jaunt in '08 or '09. People thought I was nuts each time. Expect to see that attitude get worse. I believe we've already experienced the service longevity peak, and that the mileage expectation of our national fleet will go _down_ from here. More complex application-specific parts will be to blame. Once the official line of spares is exhausted, these vehicles will be rendered permanently hors du combat. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
I had an '86 Legend for several years in the late '90's. I put about 100K miles on it and sold it for more than I bought it. I believe it had 198K on it when I sold it. I loved everything about that car. When I look for cars, I look for two things: MBs I cannot live without and first generation Legends. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Nice! Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. My coworkers are amazed that we did a 1500 mile trip last summer in my '98 Jetta. I imagine they'd never believe you did 1200 in an '82... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
I believe. On Oct 5, 2014 9:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice! Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. My coworkers are amazed that we did a 1500 mile trip last summer in my '98 Jetta. I imagine they'd never believe you did 1200 in an '82... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Mileage? On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe. On Oct 5, 2014 9:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice! Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. My coworkers are amazed that we did a 1500 mile trip last summer in my '98 Jetta. I imagine they'd never believe you did 1200 in an '82... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
ATTABOY! Wilt - Original Message - From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
