Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-07-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
It's hard to explain without showing you but here goes.

The star base is held in by a spring in the base. You compress the two sides
 turn the spring until it's retained by the holder then lift out the base.

Install the replacement by dropping the star in place  rotating the soring
until the two arms pop out.

You'll need a pair of slip joint pliers.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Hi Gang,
 
Some punk broke the hod star off my car the other week, but this punk did
not even take it - just left it sitting on the hood.
 
I received a new star on Wednesday.  How do I take what remains of the old
star off and how do I put this new star on?
 
 
 
Dave H...
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-07-05 Thread David Hemsley

Tom,
 
Thanks so very much.  After reading your piece I found the replacement to be 
very easy.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-07-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
I've replaced my share..

Thanks,
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Tom,
 
Thanks so very much.  After reading your piece I found the replacement to be
very easy.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-06-02 Thread Bill R
Dave, all I have is sympathy for you, but I am deleting this quickly just in
case my '81, which seems to almost be as it should be, gets any more ideas.
I've had all the strange and scary noises I ever want.  Yours sounds like it
could be a lot worse than bad motor mounts, unfortunately.
BillR

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Hi All,
 
I have an 85 300SD with approximately 290,00 on the chassis and 50,000 on
the drive train.
 
Almost at home, this afternoon, after completing a 45 mile each way high way
trip I heard a terrible noise.  Sounded as though it was coming from behind
the dash while in the vehicle and resmbled the sound of a broken water
pressure line but more intense.  However, with only a minimal loss of power,
at first, the a return to normal power all gauges showed good.  no change in
water temp., oil prressure cruise or climate control activity.
 
Pulling in my dirveway, maybe 1 or 1 and 1/2 miles since the onset, I
immediately shu the vehicle down.  The engine stopped but the noise did not!
Upon leaving the vehicle I could really hear the noise and it was extermely
LOUD.  I opened the hood and decided the noise was comig from the area of
the air filter/turbo area.  Both were shaking and I could feel a slight
vibration.  
 
Occassionally a whif of smoke would come from the area near the transmission
dip stick and I would see aspark from the area where the transmission and
the engine unite.
 
I panicked and began pulling any relay and fuse I could lay my hands on, in
the area near the brake reservoir.  Still the noise, shaking and smoke
continued.  Finally on the passenger side/front of the engine compartment -
mounted on the wheel well - I pulled a small four connector relay apart form
the wiring and the noise, vibration, smoking and sparking  stopped.
 
When the relay was re-connected none of the symptoms were again seen.  
 
When trying to start the vehicle in any gear except park or neutral no
atempt to start the egine is witnessed, just as it should be.   However,
when in either park or neutral I hear the familiar tonation of a burned out
starter turning while no attempt to star the engine is found.
 
Other than a dead battery, after sitting for several months, about two
months ago this vehcile has never given me any challenges starting/shutting
down.
 
Any clues folks and how could I test to see if any or your theories are
correct?
 
 
Dave H...
 

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-06-02 Thread David Hemsley

Bill,
 
Probably a very good idea.   :)
 
 
Dave H... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 2 Jun 
2008 15:54:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD  Dave, all I have is 
sympathy for you, but I am deleting this quickly just in case my '81, which 
seems to almost be as it should be, gets any more ideas. I've had all the 
strange and scary noises I ever want. Yours sounds like it could be a lot 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-31 Thread Harry Watkins
Sounds like a runaway starter, shorted on and the Bendix trying to engage
the ring gear.

Can you determine what the connector that stopped it goes to?

Harry

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:54 PM, David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hi All,

 I have an 85 300SD with approximately 290,00 on the chassis and 50,000 on
 the drive train.

 Almost at home, this afternoon, after completing a 45 mile each way high
 way trip I heard a terrible noise.  Sounded as though it was coming from
 behind the dash while in the vehicle and resmbled the sound of a broken
 water pressure line but more intense.  However, with only a minimal loss of
 power, at first, the a return to normal power all gauges showed good.  no
 change in water temp., oil prressure cruise or climate control activity.

 Pulling in my dirveway, maybe 1 or 1 and 1/2 miles since the onset, I
 immediately shu the vehicle down.  The engine stopped but the noise did not!
  Upon leaving the vehicle I could really hear the noise and it was extermely
 LOUD.  I opened the hood and decided the noise was comig from the area of
 the air filter/turbo area.  Both were shaking and I could feel a slight
 vibration.

 Occassionally a whif of smoke would come from the area near the
 transmission dip stick and I would see aspark from the area where the
 transmission and the engine unite.

 I panicked and began pulling any relay and fuse I could lay my hands on, in
 the area near the brake reservoir.  Still the noise, shaking and smoke
 continued.  Finally on the passenger side/front of the engine compartment -
 mounted on the wheel well - I pulled a small four connector relay apart form
 the wiring and the noise, vibration, smoking and sparking  stopped.

 When the relay was re-connected none of the symptoms were again seen.

 When trying to start the vehicle in any gear except park or neutral no
 atempt to start the egine is witnessed, just as it should be.   However,
 when in either park or neutral I hear the familiar tonation of a burned out
 starter turning while no attempt to star the engine is found.

 Other than a dead battery, after sitting for several months, about two
 months ago this vehcile has never given me any challenges starting/shutting
 down.

 Any clues folks and how could I test to see if any or your theories are
 correct?


 Dave H...


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-31 Thread Jim Cathey
 I hear the familiar tonation of a burned out starter
 turning while no attempt to start the engine is found.

Your starter stuck on and destroyed itself.  With any luck that's
the extent of the damage, though the ring gear needs to be examined.
(Through the removed starter's hole.)  The chances are good that
it alone was at fault, though it is possible that the starter switch
is a culprit, or even something as obscure as the glow plug relay,
to which the starter line also goes (as an input).  First, get out
that starter and have a look.  Replacing a ring gear is no fun.
(Drop the tranny.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey
 Now I find that it will not set/hold cruise speed unless it has been 
 driven for approximately 20 minutes or more.  If shut down (time does 
 not matter) when restarting again it takes approximately 20 minutes to 
 set/hold cruise speed.

 I'm thinking a vac leak. Any other suggestions?

I'm thinking amplifier problems.  It almost always is.
I've fixed more than a dozen merely by resoldering.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Dave H...
Jim,

I had ruled out the amplifier because when the cruise locks in it is in. 
HOWEVER, that thought process I beleibve to be at fault.  Your right it 
could well be the board as it heats up it holds the setting.

Will check on it thanks.


Dave H...

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 Now I find that it will not set/hold cruise speed unless it has been
 driven for approximately 20 minutes or more.  If shut down (time does
 not matter) when restarting again it takes approximately 20 minutes to
 set/hold cruise speed.

 I'm thinking a vac leak. Any other suggestions?

 I'm thinking amplifier problems.  It almost always is.
 I've fixed more than a dozen merely by resoldering.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Bill R
An '85 would have enough personality that it could just be angry with you.
From occasional random features I think my '81 is ticked off at me once in
awhile.
Sorry, no helpful advice other than some very marginal leak that closes with
20 min of vibration.  Actually, I like my first answer better.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  301k miles


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I had my SD parked for quite some time.

Now I find that it will not set/hold cruise speed unless it has been driven
for approximately 20 minutes or more.  If shut down (time does not matter)
when restarting again it takes approximately 20 minutes to set/hold cruise
speed. 

I'm thinking a vac leak. Any other suggestions?


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Dave H...
Ah

Spoken like a man with experience.

I do honestly swear that these automobiles have both personalities and 
temperaments :)


Dave H...

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 An '85 would have enough personality that it could just be angry with you.
From occasional random features I think my '81 is ticked off at me once in
 awhile.
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Peter Frederick
No vacuum on an 85, the actuator is electric.

Most likely a bad amplifier.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey
 I had ruled out the amplifier because when the cruise locks in it is 
 in.

Faulty logic.  With intermittent solder joints inside it
can work perfectly one moment and be dead the next, often
thermally driven, or it can get oddly spastic as its mood
determines.  Seen it both ways.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-04-30 Thread Rich Thomas
Axles?  Pinion or something in the diff?

-R

Dave H... wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I called Rusty yesterday and got a TERRIFIC price on the Flex discs for this 
 car's drive train.  I intended to order them both (Front and Rear) tomorrow, 
 when I get some money in.

 However an inspection today shows those discs to be good.

 Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like the older 
 Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a lot with 
 deceleration?

 Rear End?  Rear Differential?  Rear Differential fluid level?


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-04-30 Thread Curt Raymond

Actually I've been meaning to mention...

I had the summer tires put back on my 190D on Friday, had to buy 2 new ones to 
replace 2 that were worn when I had bad links in the rear end.
So they put the two good old ones on the rear first while I went inside to get 
the 2 replacements. The kid and I talked while he swapped those on $8/hr? Geez
When he went to hit it with the torque wrench the car started to roll away 
because he'd left it on the jacks, probably since I'd distracted him...
Got it off the jacks, hit the fronts with the TW and I was off.
Had to go out to western MA on Saturday, did about 100 miles. On the way home I 
started to notice a vibration I didn't like but figured I was just tired.
Vibration was back Sunday and got BAD including thunking on deceleration BAD. I 
got scared until it occured to me the kid hadn't used the TW on the rear 
wheels. You don't suppose?

Yup, the rears weren't even finger tight. Pulled out my lug wrench and 
tightened, vibration GONE, thunking GONE. Hit 'em with my TW when I got home, 
its a beam type that only goes to 75 ft/lb. I keep forgetting to go back and 
get them retorqued, I should have yesterday but it was pouring...

Anyway, stupid little thing, but worth checking.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:09:36 -0400
From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] 85 300SD
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Hi folks,

I called Rusty yesterday and got a TERRIFIC price on the Flex discs for
 this car's drive train.  I intended to order them both (Front and
 Rear) tomorrow, when I get some money in.

However an inspection today shows those discs to be good.

Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like the
 older Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a lot
 with deceleration?

Rear End?  Rear Differential?  Rear Differential fluid level?


Dave H...

   
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-04-30 Thread Christopher McCann
tranny mount?

CM



Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Actually I've been meaning to mention...

I had the summer tires put back on my 190D on Friday, had to buy 2 new ones to 
replace 2 that were worn when I had bad links in the rear end.
So they put the two good old ones on the rear first while I went inside to get 
the 2 replacements. The kid and I talked while he swapped those on $8/hr? Geez
When he went to hit it with the torque wrench the car started to roll away 
because he'd left it on the jacks, probably since I'd distracted him...
Got it off the jacks, hit the fronts with the TW and I was off.
Had to go out to western MA on Saturday, did about 100 miles. On the way home I 
started to notice a vibration I didn't like but figured I was just tired.
Vibration was back Sunday and got BAD including thunking on deceleration BAD. I 
got scared until it occured to me the kid hadn't used the TW on the rear 
wheels. You don't suppose?

Yup, the rears weren't even finger tight. Pulled out my lug wrench and 
tightened, vibration GONE, thunking GONE. Hit 'em with my TW when I got home, 
its a beam type that only goes to 75 ft/lb. I keep forgetting to go back and 
get them retorqued, I should have yesterday but it was pouring...

Anyway, stupid little thing, but worth checking.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:09:36 -0400
From: Dave H... 
Subject: [MBZ] 85 300SD
To: 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi folks,

I called Rusty yesterday and got a TERRIFIC price on the Flex discs for
 this car's drive train.  I intended to order them both (Front and
 Rear) tomorrow, when I get some money in.

However an inspection today shows those discs to be good.

Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like the
 older Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a lot
 with deceleration?

Rear End?  Rear Differential?  Rear Differential fluid level?


Dave H...

   
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-04-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Worn out carrier in the diff -- the spider gear shafts wear from  
inadequate lubrication and the resultant oval hole allow them to move  
and clank.

Easy to check -- see how much free rotation there is at the pinion.   
Should be minimal, but I'm willing to bet you have quite a bit --  
half a turn or so -- accompanied by a clunk as the shafts hit the end  
of the oval holes.

Time for a replacment diff, and this time put synthetic lube in it.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD

2008-04-30 Thread Jim Cathey
 Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like 
 the older Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a 
 lot with deceleration?

How's the driveline center bearing support?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Radiator Hose Fan Clutch service.

2006-04-29 Thread David Brodbeck
George Larribeau wrote:
 So if I have a choice . carbon filtered or reverses osmosis filtered ??

I would probably use carbon filtered.  I used to work in the car wash
industry and we always observed corrosion problems with the hardware for
the RO spotless rinse arches.  It seems counter-intuitive, but the
explanation I heard is that the RO water is very hungry for ions.  In
a closed system like a car cooling system I think the problem would be
minimized, though, because the water won't stay deionized for long.


David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Radiator Hose Fan Clutch service.

2006-04-28 Thread John Berryman


On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:11 PM, George Larribeau wrote:

What kind of water would one mix with the MB antifreeze? In the  
past I have been a believer in distilled (demonized if available)  
but heard otherwise.


	HH20 (aka holy water). Tap water will suffice if no priests are  
available.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Radiator Hose Fan Clutch service.

2006-04-27 Thread David Brodbeck

George Larribeau wrote:

Are there any tricks to refilling it with coolant air bubbles and the like?


I've always heard that the best way is to fill it through the top 
radiator hose.  The idea is to minimize the amount of air in the head.



What kind of water would one mix with the MB antifreeze? In the past I have 
been a believer in distilled (demonized if available) but heard otherwise.


Distilled is best, but unless your tap water is very hard it's 
probably perfectly adequate.



David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Radiator Hose Fan Clutch service.

2006-04-27 Thread Marshall Booth

David Brodbeck wrote:

George Larribeau wrote:

Are there any tricks to refilling it with coolant air bubbles and the like?


I've always heard that the best way is to fill it through the top 
radiator hose.  The idea is to minimize the amount of air in the head.



What kind of water would one mix with the MB antifreeze? In the past I have 
been a believer in distilled (demonized if available) but heard otherwise.


Distilled is best, but unless your tap water is very hard it's 
probably perfectly adequate.


Distilled water is NOT best, high quality drinking water - water that's 
not too hard - is best. That's water that measures below about 120 ppm 
or 7 grains (measure of particulate). With Mercedes approved anti-freeze 
changed every couple of years, distilled water IS preferable to the hard 
water that is available in more half the water taps in the US. If you're 
going to BUY water, get the drinking water from the supermarket rather 
than the distilled water. It is MUCH less reactive and although the 
buffers in the anti-freeze WILL neutralize the reactivity of distilled 
water, it shortens the life of the anti-freeze.


Marshall
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190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)




Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Brake Job

2005-09-07 Thread Sunil Hari
At the minimum, pads. At most, brake lines, brake fluid, pads, rotors, 
calipers, and a master cylinder.

On 9/7/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello all,
  I'm getting ready to do a brake job on all four wheels of my Mercedes. 
 What parts can I expect to replace? I haven't been into it before. 
  Thanks
 Mike Piles
 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Brake Job

2005-09-07 Thread dave walton
When I did the first rotor replacement on my 1994 S350, I had to remove 
rolled steel pins from the axle that had no matching hole in the replacement 
rotor. Three were quite stubborn. I ended up removing the hub, tack welding 
a short round rod inside the pin, and hammering them out from behind with a 
3-pounder.

-Dave Walton

On 9/7/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello all,
  I'm getting ready to do a brake job on all four wheels of my Mercedes. 
 What parts can I expect to replace? I haven't been into it before. 
  Thanks
 Mike Piles
 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Brake Job

2005-09-07 Thread Mike Piles
II was looking for what parts that normally need replacement,  especially 
micellaneous pins, shims, clips ect.  I don't know when it was last done or 
when the rotors were replaced, so I'm expecting pads, rotors, brake lines.
 
Thanks
Mike

Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the minimum, pads.  At most, brake lines, brake fluid, pads, rotors, 
calipers, and a master cylinder.

On 9/7/05, Mike Piles  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello all,
 
I'm getting ready to do a brake job on all four wheels of my Mercedes.  What 
parts can I expect to replace?  I haven't been into it before.  
 
Thanks
Mike Piles

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