Re: [MBZ] breaks

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Your a looser!  Like my breaks!

--R
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On Apr 19, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>> Ideas?  Thoughts?
> 
> I think you should spell it B-R-A-K-E.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] breaks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> Ideas?  Thoughts?


I think you should spell it B-R-A-K-E.

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Re: [MBZ] breaks

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Yeah, I'd bet on loose caliper bolts too

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hmmm. Good call. I would not have thought of that, can check that easily.
>
> --R
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> > On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I had a W126 that the PO apparently had reused the caliper mounting
> bolts rather than using new, and failed to use any Loctite. Result was the
> bolt backed out! That sure caused a clunk.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:45 PM
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> > Cc: Floyd Thursby
> > Subject: [MBZ] breaks
> >
> > I was driving the SEC this afternoon and noticed a little clunk on
> > breaking at LF wheel.  At first I thought it was something in the
> > suspension but then it got to where I had to push the break petal a bit
> > to get the breaks to engage, felt like left front, and then it would
> > sorta clunk and then grab.  I'm thinking either the caliber is starting
> > to cease up or the break hose is maybe getting bad and needs to be
> > replaced, like it takes some extra pressure to squeeze past the hose if
> > it is sorta collapsing.
> >
> > Ideas?  Thoughts?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] breaks

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Hmmm. Good call. I would not have thought of that, can check that easily. 

--R
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> On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had a W126 that the PO apparently had reused the caliper mounting bolts 
> rather than using new, and failed to use any Loctite. Result was the bolt 
> backed out! That sure caused a clunk.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd 
> Thursby via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:45 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> Subject: [MBZ] breaks
> 
> I was driving the SEC this afternoon and noticed a little clunk on 
> breaking at LF wheel.  At first I thought it was something in the 
> suspension but then it got to where I had to push the break petal a bit 
> to get the breaks to engage, felt like left front, and then it would 
> sorta clunk and then grab.  I'm thinking either the caliber is starting 
> to cease up or the break hose is maybe getting bad and needs to be 
> replaced, like it takes some extra pressure to squeeze past the hose if 
> it is sorta collapsing.
> 
> Ideas?  Thoughts?
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] breaks

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I had a W126 that the PO apparently had reused the caliper mounting bolts 
rather than using new, and failed to use any Loctite. Result was the bolt 
backed out! That sure caused a clunk.

Greg

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Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:45 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] breaks

I was driving the SEC this afternoon and noticed a little clunk on 
breaking at LF wheel.  At first I thought it was something in the 
suspension but then it got to where I had to push the break petal a bit 
to get the breaks to engage, felt like left front, and then it would 
sorta clunk and then grab.  I'm thinking either the caliber is starting 
to cease up or the break hose is maybe getting bad and needs to be 
replaced, like it takes some extra pressure to squeeze past the hose if 
it is sorta collapsing.

Ideas?  Thoughts?

-- 
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] breaks

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No it just started.  I was at first thinking the guide rod mount but 
then this thing with having to push the pedal a bit to get it to engage 
says brake, probably hose, and it got progressively worse as I drove 
this afternoon, which would not be the bushing. I was thinking of a 
bunch of little stuff I need to order for this car, I guess I should 
just do that soon.


--R


On 4/19/18 5:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Sounds like maybe a bum hose. Did this just start or have you been hearing the 
clunk previously? I ask because that’s also a sign of worn out guide rod mounts.

-D


On Apr 19, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I was driving the SEC this afternoon and noticed a little clunk on breaking at 
LF wheel.  At first I thought it was something in the suspension but then it 
got to where I had to push the break petal a bit to get the breaks to engage, 
felt like left front, and then it would sorta clunk and then grab.  I'm 
thinking either the caliber is starting to cease up or the break hose is maybe 
getting bad and needs to be replaced, like it takes some extra pressure to 
squeeze past the hose if it is sorta collapsing.

Ideas?  Thoughts?

--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] breaks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sounds like maybe a bum hose. Did this just start or have you been hearing the 
clunk previously? I ask because that’s also a sign of worn out guide rod mounts.

-D

> On Apr 19, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was driving the SEC this afternoon and noticed a little clunk on breaking 
> at LF wheel.  At first I thought it was something in the suspension but then 
> it got to where I had to push the break petal a bit to get the breaks to 
> engage, felt like left front, and then it would sorta clunk and then grab.  
> I'm thinking either the caliber is starting to cease up or the break hose is 
> maybe getting bad and needs to be replaced, like it takes some extra pressure 
> to squeeze past the hose if it is sorta collapsing.
> 
> Ideas?  Thoughts?
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Breaks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I built a pressure bleeder with a $10 garden sprayer (one gallon), a 
spare brake fluid cap, fittings to attach a hose to the cap (with a hole 
drilled in the center) and 1/4" OD vinyl hose.  Works grate on breaks!
FCP has ATE break fluid in 1 L cans for a reasonable price.  I bought 4 
at a time.

Max Dillon via Mercedes 
February 20, 2018 at 8:17 PM
I think a better option would be purchasing a Motive pressure bleeder, 
so fluid is pushed through the system instead of sucked.


Doesn't the ABS pump circuit need pressure vice suction?



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Re: [MBZ] Breaks

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

No ABS here, but +1 even with old-school brakes.  I was never 
successful/satisfied trying to stop the bubbles (mainly with grease).

> -Original Message-
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> Max Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 9:18 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Breaks
> 
> I think a better option would be purchasing a Motive pressure bleeder, so 
> fluid
> is pushed through the system instead of sucked.
> 
> Doesn't the ABS pump circuit need pressure vice suction?
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Re: [MBZ] Breaks

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think a better option would be purchasing a Motive pressure bleeder, so fluid 
is pushed through the system instead of sucked.

Doesn't the ABS pump circuit need pressure vice suction?
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Breaks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I put some neverseez on the thread of the bleeder.  Serves 2 purposes.

Neverseez, don't leave home without it.

archer75--- via Mercedes 
February 20, 2018 at 7:15 PM
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 13:05:48 -0600
~~~
Someone on Youtube puts grease around the valve to keep air from being 
sucked in. I wonder if synthetic grease would be safe enough on the 
assumption that some of it might get sucked into to caliper?


I use an HF vacuum pump in line with a BIG jar in order keep brake 
fluid out of the pump, but it would work better if the air could be 
stopped from coming in through the threads IMO.


Note: The drop tube in the jar should be only half way to the bottom 
so it doesn't make the brake fluid foam up and get into the pump.


Note: I'll try teflon next time. Thanks, OK Don.

Gerry

P.S. Replacing the master cylinder and all calipers came out well on 
the '83 240D, but it took about 3 times as long due to geezeritis, and 
because one of the calipers had a port on the wrong side and had to be 
replaced.


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Re: [MBZ] Breaks

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On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 13:05:48 -0600
OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> Wrapping the bleeders in Teflon tape helps to reduce the bubbles, though
> I'm not sure it's necessary.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > I was sucking bubbles.
> >
> >
> > Bubbles to be expected, you're sucking air around the bleeder threads.
> >
> > -- Jim
~~~
Someone on Youtube puts grease around the valve to keep air from being sucked 
in. I wonder if synthetic grease would be safe enough on the assumption that 
some of it might get sucked into to caliper?

I use an HF vacuum pump in line with a BIG jar in order keep brake fluid out of 
the pump, but it would work better if the air could be stopped from coming in 
through the threads IMO.

Note: The drop tube in the jar should be only half way to the bottom so it 
doesn't make the brake fluid foam up and get into the pump.

Note: I'll try teflon next time. Thanks, OK Don.

Gerry

P.S. Replacing the master cylinder and all calipers came out well on the '83 
240D, but it took about 3 times as long due to geezeritis, and because one of 
the calipers had a port on the wrong side and had to be replaced.

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Re: [MBZ] Breaks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Wrapping the bleeders in Teflon tape helps to reduce the bubbles, though
I'm not sure it's necessary.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> >
> > I was sucking bubbles.
>
>
> Bubbles to be expected, you're sucking air around the bleeder threads.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Breaks

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Yep. 

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On Feb 19, 2018, at 11:58 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> 
>> I was sucking bubbles.
> 
> 
> Bubbles to be expected, you're sucking air around the bleeder threads.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Breaks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> I was sucking bubbles.


Bubbles to be expected, you're sucking air around the bleeder threads.

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Re: [MBZ] Breaks and bakes in paper today

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Jul 16, 2013 7:59 PM, "Chris James"  wrote:
>
>
> That might sweeten the deal nicely...too bad I don't like BMW's!!! :-)
>
>
>
> On 7/16/2013 10:24 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>>
>> BMW 530i Fully serviced and fresh bakes.
>
>
What don't you like?  If that's an E34-chassis 530i, it's probably the best
car BMW ever made. Certainly it shares the crown with the W124 for "best
mid-size sedan of the '80s."

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Breaks and bakes in paper today

[Dieselhead]

aperuntly u don ned 2 spel no mor 2 cumnekate

butt then I kan red kursive reel gud.


Kaleb!  I nominate this from Herr Mann to the quotes page!

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Re: [MBZ] Breaks and bakes in paper today

[Chris James]

That might sweeten the deal nicely...too bad I don't like BMW's!!! :-)


On 7/16/2013 10:24 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

BMW 530i Fully serviced and fresh bakes.



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Re: [MBZ] Breaks and bakes in paper today

[WILTON]

Yep, da brain's an amazing device/organ, ain't it?

Wilton

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aperuntly u don ned 2 spel no mor 2 cumnekate

butt then I kan red kursive reel gud.

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richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


1970 Volkswagen bug with rebuilt engine and breaks.  BMW 530i Fully
serviced and fresh bakes.

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Re: [MBZ] Breaks and bakes in paper today

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aperuntly u don ned 2 spel no mor 2 cumnekate

butt then I kan red kursive reel gud.

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> 1970 Volkswagen bug with rebuilt engine and breaks.  BMW 530i Fully
> serviced and fresh bakes.
>
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
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