Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
rumor has it that Robert wrote: That makes sense to me, but when I asked about this soon after I had purchased the car several years ago I was told that the dealer who had sold it (and who was no longer in business here at that time) had used the system of selling the car titled according to the date of sale rather than otherwise, regardless of how long it had been in his inventory. This seems strange to me that he could have legally done this but I was also told that if the car was indeed a '76, the glow plug switch would have been incorporated into the key ignition switch as it was in later years instead of on a seperate pull-switch, as it is in mine. Also I was told that the oil filter could be accessed from under the hood in '76, while I still need to be under the car to change the filter in mine. The date of manufacture is stamped as 9/75, so I guess it could logically go either way as necessary, and this car must have been built near the time they made those changes. Anybody have some more comments about this I would like to hear them. Mick Sound to me like the difference between a W115 and and W123. 240D was a model available on both chassis. And the years overlapped. *grin* Makes for a whole lot of fun for _us_ to figure out!! My book says that in 1976 the production of 240D was nearly 16,000 W115 and 21,000 W123. Philip, who's never owned a W115
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
Philip, who's never owned a W115 You're missing out! For whatever reason, I really like driving our 114 and 115 cars. But I really like to change horses once in awhile too. That's really why we have such a large stable of cars. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
I agree - I think they drive better than the 123 does. The 107 suspension/running gear is based on the 114/115 chassis - and it drives great. However, I like working on a 123 far better than a 115 -- -- On 12/26/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip, who's never owned a W115 You're missing out! For whatever reason, I really like driving our 114 and 115 cars. But I really like to change horses once in awhile too. That's really why we have such a large stable of cars. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
That makes sense to me, but when I asked about this soon after I had purchased the car several years ago I was told that the dealer who had sold it (and who was no longer in business here at that time) had used the system of selling the car titled according to the date of sale rather than otherwise, regardless of how long it had been in his inventory. This seems strange to me that he could have legally done this but I was also told that if the car was indeed a '76, the glow plug switch would have been incorporated into the key ignition switch as it was in later years instead of on a seperate pull-switch, as it is in mine. Also I was told that the oil filter could be accessed from under the hood in '76, while I still need to be under the car to change the filter in mine. The date of manufacture is stamped as 9/75, so I guess it could logically go either way as necessary, and this car must have been built near the time they made those changes. Anybody have some more comments about this I would like to hear them. Mick On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:05:21 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, from your list of MBz you own, can you give me some evidences to differentiate a '75 vs a '76 240D. I have one titled as a '76, although for some reasons, I believe it to be a '75. Thanks. Frankenheap is in the same boat. The State thinks it is a '71, but I have good reason to believe that '72 is more appropriate, given that I found lots of '72 date codes on electrical items in it. I don't think that I'd want to try to convince the State that they had the wrong number! What's in it for them to change, anyway? DBAG is not like some other manufacturers that have discontinuities in their design and production for each year, saving up most engineering changes for the next model. DBAG just made continuous improvements as they thought of them, phasing them in at any old time. The model year designation (a US invention) is just another thing they stamp on arbitrarily to suit their production method. After all, even for a Chevy the 'year' is just a 'designed for sale as the year of' number, and is something like six months out of phase with the calendar now. DBAG's VIN will tell you everything you need to order parts appropriate for the car and probably the date of final assembly too, if you care about that. How that relates to the US's approximately August-to-August 'car year' is up to you. Your State obviously took an assembled in '75 car and called it a '76. My '97 pickup was originally sold in '96, sounds like the same thing. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
All 115 240D (1976 was the last year) had the pull start glow knob and the top mounted oil filter. In 1977 with the 123 240D they went to the key start. Robert M Doran wrote: That makes sense to me, but when I asked about this soon after I had purchased the car several years ago I was told that the dealer who had sold it (and who was no longer in business here at that time) had used the system of selling the car titled according to the date of sale rather than otherwise, regardless of how long it had been in his inventory. This seems strange to me that he could have legally done this but I was also told that if the car was indeed a '76, the glow plug switch would have been incorporated into the key ignition switch as it was in later years instead of on a seperate pull-switch, as it is in mine. Also I was told that the oil filter could be accessed from under the hood in '76, while I still need to be under the car to change the filter in mine. The date of manufacture is stamped as 9/75, so I guess it could logically go either way as necessary, and this car must have been built near the time they made those changes. Anybody have some more comments about this I would like to hear them. Mick -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
the system of selling the car titled according to the date of sale rather than otherwise, regardless of how long it had been in his inventory. This seems strange to me that he could have legally done this but In one way this even makes the most sense given the primary purpose of the 'year' so far as the State is concerned: assessing value for the purposes of taxation. It minimizes the age and thus maximizes the taxes. So no, I'm not surprised that it is legal! Follow the money. -- Jim
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OK. My '76 300D 617 had the bottom mounted oil filter and a key operated glow/starting system. My '70 220D 615 had the pull start system. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 115 240D (1976 was the last year) had the pull start glow knob and the top mounted oil filter. In 1977 with the 123 240D they went to the key start. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
All of the 617s had key operated glow/start. Th 616s didn't have key start until the 123 models. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
the 300D did have the key start, 75 and 76 OK Don wrote: OK. My '76 300D 617 had the bottom mounted oil filter and a key operated glow/starting system. My '70 220D 615 had the pull start system. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 115 240D (1976 was the last year) had the pull start glow knob and the top mounted oil filter. In 1977 with the 123 240D they went to the key start. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
