Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series/issues/addendums
In a message dated 1/10/2006 7:07:06 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as I know, the only engine in the 124 series that has a reputation for cracking heads is the 6 cylinder 1987 model. It has the 603.96x engine. From my archive: Head model on 603 diesel engines: For the head question, look at the casting number near #2/#3 cylinder. Should be 603-016-xx-20 or something like that. If xx is 14, it's the old bad head. If 17, it's the newer head from a 3.5L. And if it's 22, it's a REALLY new head. Thanks, Wray, for saving me the trouble! ;) To clarify my previous post, if the head is number 17 or higher, it is the good, reinforced head. A number 15 or lower is the old, weak head. I have heard of 5 variations... 14 (1987 version), 15 (?), 17 (3.5L, 1990 to 1995), 20 (newer than 1995-ish), and 22 (last revision, AFAIK). I forget if number 15 exists or if it's a figment of my imagination, but the other 4 are real. The head I bought from Rusty in spring 2002 was a #22. Wray, Dave, and all, I guess you should include the 86 300SDL, which also used the 6 cylinder turbo diesel engine. I know for a fact that some of them came with the #14 head. I pulled a very nice one that belies the opinion that all 14's are crackers. I guess any aluminum head on a cast iron block is subject to cracking if allowed to overheat. Look at the failure rate on the 2 litre engine used in GM's compact cars. Marshall's educated opinion that the #14 heads can survive if the filter/catalytic converter was removed soon enough, makes senses to me. Further, I have in possession a #18 head, so that number exists too. It was removed from a wrecked 87 300SDL recently. I would dearly love to buy a needy car to put this in. Finally, when I was at the SEMA show a couple years ago, the import parts show was running concurrently at the Sands. I saw a Chinese importers line of cast aluminum heads and I am sure that they had a several for Mercedes, though I wasn't knowledgeable enough at the time to confirm a 6 cylinder diesel head. I will dig through my old goody bag and see if I picked up a brochure. The beat goes on! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 139 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Never purchased it - too much work. Do have a 300CE (purchased in Portland, I like driving it, currently changing the front crankshaft seal- I hate leaks. That daughter is the one that was at UW she drives a 300CD just turned 307,xxx miles - she likes the car but would like to replace it with a wagon. I would pass up a good gas wagon at the right place. She now with Alaska Airlines wants to go back to school on her off days, - I can not kept up. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hope it works well. that will be much safer than the sportline CE you had me check out for her -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Seems that Alaska air can not keep up either. Been tossing award winning show dogs upside down into cargo holds, losing cabin pressure and creasing the skin of their planes. Is she going to stick to PDX or SEA? On Wednesday, January 11, 2006, at 06:58 PM, Woodlandtaylors wrote: Never purchased it - too much work. Do have a 300CE (purchased in Portland, I like driving it, currently changing the front crankshaft seal- I hate leaks. That daughter is the one that was at UW she drives a 300CD just turned 307,xxx miles - she likes the car but would like to replace it with a wagon. I would pass up a good gas wagon at the right place. She now with Alaska Airlines wants to go back to school on her off days, - I can not kept up. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hope it works well. that will be much safer than the sportline CE you had me check out for her -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:37:42 -0800, redghost wrote Seems that Alaska air can not keep up either. Been tossing award winning show dogs upside down into cargo holds, losing cabin pressure and creasing the skin of their planes. They've been having problems ever since they fired all their ground employees, which were unionized, and replaced them with cheaper contract workers. Just in the last month they've had two incidents of planes being damaged, including one that caused an in-flight decompression, a collision between a baggage tug and another ground vehicle, and complaints about baggage handlers throwing animal crates around. I wouldn't fly Alaska Air until they get this sorted out, personally.
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Have one based in Seattle and one based in LA. Since Alaska did away with their own ground crews things have turned to shit!! They closed the PDX as a base but now looking to reinstate it however she just another year's apartment lease - Timing is everything! Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Seems that Alaska air can not keep up either. Been tossing award winning show dogs upside down into cargo holds, losing cabin pressure and creasing the skin of their planes. Is she going to stick to PDX or SEA? On Wednesday, January 11, 2006, at 06:58 PM, Woodlandtaylors wrote: Never purchased it - too much work. Do have a 300CE (purchased in Portland, I like driving it, currently changing the front crankshaft seal- I hate leaks. That daughter is the one that was at UW she drives a 300CD just turned 307,xxx miles - she likes the car but would like to replace it with a wagon. I would pass up a good gas wagon at the right place. She now with Alaska Airlines wants to go back to school on her off days, - I can not kept up. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hope it works well. that will be much safer than the sportline CE you had me check out for her -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Not sure which base is worse LAX or SEA On Wednesday, January 11, 2006, at 09:38 PM, Woodlandtaylors wrote: Have one based in Seattle and one based in LA. Since Alaska did away with their own ground crews things have turned to shit!! They closed the PDX as a base but now looking to reinstate it however she just another year's apartment lease - Timing is everything! Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Seems that Alaska air can not keep up either. Been tossing award winning show dogs upside down into cargo holds, losing cabin pressure and creasing the skin of their planes. Is she going to stick to PDX or SEA? On Wednesday, January 11, 2006, at 06:58 PM, Woodlandtaylors wrote: Never purchased it - too much work. Do have a 300CE (purchased in Portland, I like driving it, currently changing the front crankshaft seal- I hate leaks. That daughter is the one that was at UW she drives a 300CD just turned 307,xxx miles - she likes the car but would like to replace it with a wagon. I would pass up a good gas wagon at the right place. She now with Alaska Airlines wants to go back to school on her off days, - I can not kept up. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hope it works well. that will be much safer than the sportline CE you had me check out for her -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
On 1/10/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man oh, man. Sure wish I had my act together and/or a deal like that would come up in another two months, or so. I still think that car could be a potential investment, assuming you've got some sweat equity to apply. Those cars have achieved near mythic status in this neck o' the woods, where the biodiesel craze is kicking into high gear--even the state legislature's got the fever. Unless it's got terminal engine/transmission/body damage, it's got potential. Casey's right. Same situation down here in Portland. Everywhere I go I get comments on my 124. Hey, is that a diesel? You running bio? What kind of mileage? How much you want for it? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
how much were they wanting for it? Woodlandtaylors wrote: Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
$1895 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series how much were they wanting for it? Woodlandtaylors wrote: Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
h, where was it located again? Woodlandtaylors wrote: $1895 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series how much were they wanting for it? Woodlandtaylors wrote: Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Man oh, man. Sure wish I had my act together and/or a deal like that would come up in another two months, or so. I still think that car could be a potential investment, assuming you've got some sweat equity to apply. Those cars have achieved near mythic status in this neck o' the woods, where the biodiesel craze is kicking into high gear--even the state legislature's got the fever. Unless it's got terminal engine/transmission/body damage, it's got potential. I no longer have that big ol' Dodge truck, so hauling a car 90 miles on I-5 isn't an option anymore. gr, I hate to let TDs slip through my fingers, and I want to replace my wife's '84 300D, but I'm not there yet. Thanks for the report. Casey On 1/10/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Portland Oregon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series h, where was it located again? Woodlandtaylors wrote: $1895 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series how much were they wanting for it? Woodlandtaylors wrote: Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
If I had not other projects I may have purchase it, but since my daughter wanted it; it throw a different light on the matter - plus the wife may have added her 2 cents worth. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Man oh, man. Sure wish I had my act together and/or a deal like that would come up in another two months, or so. Thanks for the report. Casey -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
darn Woodlandtaylors wrote: Portland Oregon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series h, where was it located again? Woodlandtaylors wrote: $1895 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series how much were they wanting for it? Woodlandtaylors wrote: Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Yes, you do have a number of projects, don't you? Do you still have that Blue 123 we spoke about a while ago? On 1/10/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I had not other projects I may have purchase it, but since my daughter wanted it; it throw a different light on the matter - plus the wife may have added her 2 cents worth. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Kleb, you can probably get it shipped to you for about $600. That is only a few parts from your harem, oops, I mean Kingdom. At 07:13 PM 1/10/2006, you wrote: h, where was it located again? Woodlandtaylors wrote: $1895 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series how much were they wanting for it? Woodlandtaylors wrote: Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
My 90's 300TDt had a plugged vacuum/pressure relief valve. Lines clear, pressure in, no pressure out. Replace it on the roadside an hour after purchase by swapping it with the valve which was servicing the EGR. Same part, just different hookup of lines and vent cap. Risk at the time, was the IP or the turbo shot... Nah has to be no pressure to IP (cross fingers). Sadly the evil EGR was disable by my 'fumbling attempts to *improve* it's performance. On 10-Jan-06, at 11:37 AM, Dave M. wrote: Yeah, wow, I'll second that. Don't suppose she's single, eh? ;-) Seriously though, the 'low power' issue is probably either an ALDA adjustment, or a plugged line between the intake and ALDA. When running properly, this is not a slow car. A full buyer's guide to this model is here: http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/ 124.1x3_buying_tips.txt :-) -Dave M. John 1983 300TDt 360k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 157k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) -- === John M. McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-800-477-2659 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com === -- === John M. McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-800-477-2659 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Casey, Have been going to take the engine and trans out of it (Texas blue 1985 sedan) and drop them into the gold sedan, have not got around to it. Never put the spare engine in the 300SD either, probably just part it out. This summer I'll sell the 450SL and probably the 420SEL. The 380SEC may go too, may even get rid of the older 300CD - has not had the cover off it in 18 months or so. The motor home has not been out of the garage in eight years - nothing like spare time. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Yes, you do have a number of projects, don't you? Do you still have that Blue 123 we spoke about a while ago? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
naw, I already have too many irons in the fire I suppose. Need to unload a few cars. Im running out of space believe it or not. Even thinking about selling the RARE 123 LWB. Loren Faeth wrote: Kleb, you can probably get it shipped to you for about $600. That is only a few parts from your harem, oops, I mean Kingdom. At 07:13 PM 1/10/2006, you wrote: h, where was it located again? Woodlandtaylors wrote: $1895 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series how much were they wanting for it? Woodlandtaylors wrote: Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
how many cars do you have??? Woodlandtaylors wrote: Casey, Have been going to take the engine and trans out of it (Texas blue 1985 sedan) and drop them into the gold sedan, have not got around to it. Never put the spare engine in the 300SD either, probably just part it out. This summer I'll sell the 450SL and probably the 420SEL. The 380SEC may go too, may even get rid of the older 300CD - has not had the cover off it in 18 months or so. The motor home has not been out of the garage in eight years - nothing like spare time. Dennis T -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Man! You sound like you have what I have! (except that your cars probably don't get rusty as bad) At 10:17 PM 1/10/2006, you wrote: Casey, Have been going to take the engine and trans out of it (Texas blue 1985 sedan) and drop them into the gold sedan, have not got around to it. Never put the spare engine in the 300SD either, probably just part it out. This summer I'll sell the 450SL and probably the 420SEL. The 380SEC may go too, may even get rid of the older 300CD - has not had the cover off it in 18 months or so. The motor home has not been out of the garage in eight years - nothing like spare time. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Yes, you do have a number of projects, don't you? Do you still have that Blue 123 we spoke about a while ago? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Loren, I don't think it's that well known but cars around the Portland, Oregon Vancouver, Washington area do not have a rust problem now moss that’s a different story. There's about a 10 - 12 Benz around here at a time, then you add in the motorhome, company supplied Suburban, Tractors, running lawn mowers and mechanical things start to add up. And I wonder why I never have time to complete the remodel! Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Man! You sound like you have what I have! (except that your cars probably don't get rusty as bad) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Hope it works well. that will be much safer than the sportline CE you had me check out for her On Tuesday, January 10, 2006, at 09:48 AM, Woodlandtaylors wrote: Don, Thanks, the 1987 Wagon that was on Craiglist in Portland Oregon for $1895 the other day is available again. The purchaser reports he changed the glow plugs and it starts instantly now. He purchased it for his girlfriend to use for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. He asked for his money back, which the original owner said no way a deals a deal - but did give him a list of people that had contacted him. I was first on the list; my daughter who drives a 300CD would like to get the wagon so I'm going to look at it this morning. I'm a little 'gun shy' after what has transpired but it is worth the time to look. Its needs some work but the daughter wants to tackle it, she changes the oil in the 300CD herself and replaced the turbo - I figure if she can do that she can tackle anything. If it does not suit her perhaps someone on the list may be interested. Sorry for the saga, Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series As far as I know, the only engine in the 124 series that has a reputation for cracking heads is the 6 cylinder 1987 model. It has the 603.96x engine. From my archive: Head model on 603 diesel engines: For the head question, look at the casting number near #2/#3 cylinder. Should be 603-016-xx-20 or something like that. If xx is 14, it's the old bad head. If 17, it's the newer head from a 3.5L. And if it's 22, it's a REALLY new head. Thanks, Wray, for saving me the trouble! ;) To clarify my previous post, if the head is number 17 or higher, it is the good, reinforced head. A number 15 or lower is the old, weak head. I have heard of 5 variations... 14 (1987 version), 15 (?), 17 (3.5L, 1990 to 1995), 20 (newer than 1995-ish), and 22 (last revision, AFAIK). I forget if number 15 exists or if it's a figment of my imagination, but the other 4 are real. The head I bought from Rusty in spring 2002 was a #22. - -dm :) On 1/9/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting marks? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K, '81 240D 173K, '78 450SLC 67K, '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
As far as I know, the only engine in the 124 series that has a reputation for cracking heads is the 6 cylinder 1987 model. It has the 603.96x engine. From my archive: Head model on 603 diesel engines: For the head question, look at the casting number near #2/#3 cylinder. Should be 603-016-xx-20 or something like that. If xx is 14, it's the old bad head. If 17, it's the newer head from a 3.5L. And if it's 22, it's a REALLY new head. Thanks, Wray, for saving me the trouble! ;) To clarify my previous post, if the head is number 17 or higher, it is the good, reinforced head. A number 15 or lower is the old, weak head. I have heard of 5 variations... 14 (1987 version), 15 (?), 17 (3.5L, 1990 to 1995), 20 (newer than 1995-ish), and 22 (last revision, AFAIK). I forget if number 15 exists or if it's a figment of my imagination, but the other 4 are real. The head I bought from Rusty in spring 2002 was a #22. - -dm :) On 1/9/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting marks? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K, '81 240D 173K, '78 450SLC 67K, '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
I had a factory 15 on a 1986 300SDL non TO model but have not heard of any others since. On 1/10/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, the only engine in the 124 series that has a reputation for cracking heads is the 6 cylinder 1987 model. It has the 603.96x engine. From my archive: Head model on 603 diesel engines: For the head question, look at the casting number near #2/#3 cylinder. Should be 603-016-xx-20 or something like that. If xx is 14, it's the old bad head. If 17, it's the newer head from a 3.5L. And if it's 22, it's a REALLY new head. Thanks, Wray, for saving me the trouble! ;) To clarify my previous post, if the head is number 17 or higher, it is the good, reinforced head. A number 15 or lower is the old, weak head. I have heard of 5 variations... 14 (1987 version), 15 (?), 17 (3.5L, 1990 to 1995), 20 (newer than 1995-ish), and 22 (last revision, AFAIK). I forget if number 15 exists or if it's a figment of my imagination, but the other 4 are real. The head I bought from Rusty in spring 2002 was a #22. - -dm :) On 1/9/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting marks? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K, '81 240D 173K, '78 450SLC 67K, '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Don, Thanks, the 1987 Wagon that was on Craiglist in Portland Oregon for $1895 the other day is available again. The purchaser reports he changed the glow plugs and it starts instantly now. He purchased it for his girlfriend to use for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. He asked for his money back, which the original owner said no way a deals a deal - but did give him a list of people that had contacted him. I was first on the list; my daughter who drives a 300CD would like to get the wagon so I'm going to look at it this morning. I'm a little 'gun shy' after what has transpired but it is worth the time to look. Its needs some work but the daughter wants to tackle it, she changes the oil in the 300CD herself and replaced the turbo - I figure if she can do that she can tackle anything. If it does not suit her perhaps someone on the list may be interested. Sorry for the saga, Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series As far as I know, the only engine in the 124 series that has a reputation for cracking heads is the 6 cylinder 1987 model. It has the 603.96x engine. From my archive: Head model on 603 diesel engines: For the head question, look at the casting number near #2/#3 cylinder. Should be 603-016-xx-20 or something like that. If xx is 14, it's the old bad head. If 17, it's the newer head from a 3.5L. And if it's 22, it's a REALLY new head. Thanks, Wray, for saving me the trouble! ;) To clarify my previous post, if the head is number 17 or higher, it is the good, reinforced head. A number 15 or lower is the old, weak head. I have heard of 5 variations... 14 (1987 version), 15 (?), 17 (3.5L, 1990 to 1995), 20 (newer than 1995-ish), and 22 (last revision, AFAIK). I forget if number 15 exists or if it's a figment of my imagination, but the other 4 are real. The head I bought from Rusty in spring 2002 was a #22. - -dm :) On 1/9/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting marks? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K, '81 240D 173K, '78 450SLC 67K, '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
WOW, thats some daughter you got there. Woodlandtaylors wrote: Don, Thanks, the 1987 Wagon that was on Craiglist in Portland Oregon for $1895 the other day is available again. The purchaser reports he changed the glow plugs and it starts instantly now. He purchased it for his girlfriend to use for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. He asked for his money back, which the original owner said no way a deals a deal - but did give him a list of people that had contacted him. I was first on the list; my daughter who drives a 300CD would like to get the wagon so I'm going to look at it this morning. I'm a little 'gun shy' after what has transpired but it is worth the time to look. Its needs some work but the daughter wants to tackle it, she changes the oil in the 300CD herself and replaced the turbo - I figure if she can do that she can tackle anything. If it does not suit her perhaps someone on the list may be interested. Sorry for the saga, Dennis T -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. 'Hates diesel'? Yeah, maybe. I'm guessing there's some of my wife's 'loathes station wagons' hidden in there as well. My wife, at least, is up front about it. Nothing to do with the fact that her mother loves station wagons. No, not at all... I'm envious of your impending wagonitude. If only... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. On 1/10/06, Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, Thanks, the 1987 Wagon that was on Craiglist in Portland Oregon for $1895 the other day is available again. The purchaser reports he changed the glow plugs and it starts instantly now. He purchased it for his girlfriend to use for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. He asked for his money back, which the original owner said no way a deals a deal - but did give him a list of people that had contacted him. I was first on the list; my daughter who drives a 300CD would like to get the wagon so I'm going to look at it this morning. I'm a little 'gun shy' after what has transpired but it is worth the time to look. Its needs some work but the daughter wants to tackle it, she changes the oil in the 300CD herself and replaced the turbo - I figure if she can do that she can tackle anything. If it does not suit her perhaps someone on the list may be interested. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Hi Dennis, Go to this link, skip down to #16: http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/124.1x3_buying_tips.txt :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:12:38 -0800 From: Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Can someone provide me a link that discusses the cylinder head cracking issue as it relates to the casting # and exactly where to view the casting marks? Dennis T
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Yeah, wow, I'll second that. Don't suppose she's single, eh? ;-) Seriously though, the 'low power' issue is probably either an ALDA adjustment, or a plugged line between the intake and ALDA. When running properly, this is not a slow car. A full buyer's guide to this model is here: http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/articles/124.1x3_buying_tips.txt :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:52:08 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series WOW, thats some daughter you got there. Woodlandtaylors wrote: Don, Thanks, the 1987 Wagon that was on Craiglist in Portland Oregon for $1895 the other day is available again. The purchaser reports he changed the glow plugs and it starts instantly now. He purchased it for his girlfriend to use for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. He asked for his money back, which the original owner said no way a deals a deal - but did give him a list of people that had contacted him. I was first on the list; my daughter who drives a 300CD would like to get the wagon so I'm going to look at it this morning. I'm a little 'gun shy' after what has transpired but it is worth the time to look. Its needs some work but the daughter wants to tackle it, she changes the oil in the 300CD herself and replaced the turbo - I figure if she can do that she can tackle anything. If it does not suit her perhaps someone on the list may be interested. Sorry for the saga, Dennis T
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:37:41PM -0700, Dave M. wrote: Yeah, wow, I'll second that. Don't suppose she's single, eh? ;-) Seriously though, the 'low power' issue is probably either an ALDA adjustment, or a plugged line between the intake and ALDA. When running properly, this is not a slow car. A full buyer's guide to this model is here: Or as I'm starting to suspect with one of the two 87s, a lazy turbo caused by over 200k with a trap oxidizer in place, with the turbo probably not properly tested by the dealer when the exhaust was replaced. K
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Kaleb, It's amazing how different they are, her sister has trouble filling a vehicles fuel tank. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series WOW, thats some daughter you got there. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Jim, That may be part it - however the car was pretty much a project. Went with the old adage a cheap Benz can be the most expensive car you can own. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series for her real estate business but she does not like it. Hates diesel and says it does not accelerate satisfactory for her and would rather have a MLxxx. 'Hates diesel'? Yeah, maybe. I'm guessing there's some of my wife's 'loathes station wagons' hidden in there as well. My wife, at least, is up front about it. Nothing to do with the fact that her mother loves station wagons. No, not at all... I'm envious of your impending wagonitude. If only... -- Jim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
My wife has also had that problem - but it doesn't have anything to do with mechanical ability. I believe the first ten times I ended up taking her car anywhere the tank barely had fumes in it. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodlandtaylors Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:15 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Kaleb, It's amazing how different they are, her sister has trouble filling a vehicles fuel tank. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series WOW, thats some daughter you got there. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series
Casey, The wagon was a project. The engine was a oily mess, injector pump leaking, water pump leaking, air conditioner inoperative, vacuum system problems - engine won't shut off - water leaks in rear from rear hatch - Engine was hot on my arrival but did start fine. Power seats blow fuses, speedometer states 129xxx but has not worked in a while. Steering tight but tracks bad, transmission shifts ok to about 40 mph then will not go into 4th until slowing down, then shifts into 4th with a thump. Something flapping under the hood or front on the car above 40 mph - managed only to 45 mph on a slight incline turbo may not be kicking in (plugged sensing line?). Interior needs more than TLC I could go on and on. I do not have enough time to assist the daughter with the work it needs. Getting back into the daughter car with 306,7xx mils other than the steering slop her car was 10 times better than the wagon - she thought she had a winner until she got to look at it. I can put you in touch with the 'new owner' if you wish. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cracked diesel head on 124 series Hey Dennis, go ahead and buy it. I'll gladly take it off your hands in the event that it doesn't suit your purposes--really, I mean it. I'm your personal insurance policy. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 1/9/2006
