Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
How is his fee determined? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 10 March 2015, 10:01AM -0400 from Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the computer will tell the driver when it wants attention. That seems kinda crazy but I guess our electronic overlords know best. --R On 3/9/15 10:52 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote: On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil? Here's the full list: http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html There are five times as many oils listed now as there were just a few months ago. I'm running this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00R0CRISI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425955466 I don't know what the max oil change interval is, probably 13k miles. Kaleb is forgiven for using the wrong oil as my local dealer does the same thing, but you really want to keep the filter healthy. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
There is a slot on the dash you insert Benjamins into. --R On 3/10/15 1:10 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How is his fee determined? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 10 March 2015, 10:01AM -0400 from Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the computer will tell the driver when it wants attention. That seems kinda crazy but I guess our electronic overlords know best. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the computer will tell the driver when it wants attention. That seems kinda crazy but I guess our electronic overlords know best. --R On 3/9/15 10:52 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote: On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil? Here's the full list: http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html There are five times as many oils listed now as there were just a few months ago. I'm running this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00R0CRISI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425955466 I don't know what the max oil change interval is, probably 13k miles. Kaleb is forgiven for using the wrong oil as my local dealer does the same thing, but you really want to keep the filter healthy. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
The computer is sited in Washington, D.C. so it can track your every movement and confiscate all your guns. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The stealer guy said the ML wants service at like 10k intervals but the computer will tell the driver when it wants attention. That seems kinda crazy but I guess our electronic overlords know best. --R On 3/9/15 10:52 PM, Tom Savage via Mercedes wrote: On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil? Here's the full list: http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html There are five times as many oils listed now as there were just a few months ago. I'm running this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00R0CRISI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425955466 I don't know what the max oil change interval is, probably 13k miles. Kaleb is forgiven for using the wrong oil as my local dealer does the same thing, but you really want to keep the filter healthy. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 09:36:45 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4900082072.html This is what I am also going to move up to, when the time comes. I recall that one should get a 2007 or later version. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
2004 - 06 were the last straight six diesel engines, cars sold in the US after that have V6 engines. I'd prefer the straight six, I think that design has proven itself to be very robust. I think the V6 engines are less dependable, but I don't have any data to back that up. I also have the impression that the straight six is easier to work on. The V6 has the turbo buried between the cylinder banks. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 9, 2015 11:20:09 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 09:36:45 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4900082072.html This is what I am also going to move up to, when the time comes. I recall that one should get a 2007 or later version. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
About the only oil I have found is the M1 5w40 ESP, I have Napa special order it when it is on sale. Pep boys usually has it in stock but it's 12.99 or more a qt. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:24:55 -0500 Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: An inline six is almost always preferable to a V6, cetaris paribus, ^ ceteris | paribus with other things the same but I haven't found the V6 OM642 to be bad at all as far as maintenance is concerned. The turbo is right up top (which is good since the inlet pipe airways leaks oil), along with the fuel and oil filters, and there is plenty of room to work at the front. The air filter arrangement is a little goofy, though. So everything that needs periodic maintenance is all in the same spot. Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:59:34 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About the only oil I have found is the M1 5w40 ESP, I have Napa special order it when it is on sale. Pep boys usually has it in stock but it's 12.99 or more a qt. How far between oil changes? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
On Mar 9, 2015 11:42 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 2004 - 06 were the last straight six diesel engines, cars sold in the US after that have V6 engines. I'd prefer the straight six, I think that design has proven itself to be very robust. I think the V6 engines are less dependable, but I don't have any data to back that up. I also have the impression that the straight six is easier to work on. The V6 has the turbo buried between the cylinder banks. -- An inline six is almost always preferable to a V6, cetaris paribus, but I haven't found the V6 OM642 to be bad at all as far as maintenance is concerned. The turbo is right up top (which is good since the inlet pipe airways leaks oil), along with the fuel and oil filters, and there is plenty of room to work at the front. The air filter arrangement is a little goofy, though. The V6 also comes with normal brakes and the 7 speed transmission, and the general updates that came with the facelift in '07, but still has 16 wheels. Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. No diesel smoke either; not sure if that is a bug or a feature. I couldn't find an '05-'06 worth buying and my Bluetec was a low mile Okie creampuff so the choice was easy for me. Tom 07 E320 Bluetec 02 Volvo V70 XC all new parts yesterday ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:24:55 -0500 Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: An inline six is almost always preferable to a V6, cetaris paribus, ^ ceteris | paribus with other things the same but I haven't found the V6 OM642 to be bad at all as far as maintenance is concerned. The turbo is right up top (which is good since the inlet pipe airways leaks oil), along with the fuel and oil filters, and there is plenty of room to work at the front. The air filter arrangement is a little goofy, though. So everything that needs periodic maintenance is all in the same spot. Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
On Mar 9, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Fuel economy is not as good with the V6 due to the more restrictive diesel particulate filter. Also it requires hard-to-find 229.52 oil to keep the filter happy. What are examples of 229.52 oil? Anything made by Mobil? Here's the full list: http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.52_en.html There are five times as many oils listed now as there were just a few months ago. I'm running this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00R0CRISI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1425955466 I don't know what the max oil change interval is, probably 13k miles. Kaleb is forgiven for using the wrong oil as my local dealer does the same thing, but you really want to keep the filter healthy. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Example of Craig's next car
It's FSS, when I had mine it was at least 10k miles or more. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 20:59:34 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: About the only oil I have found is the M1 5w40 ESP, I have Napa special order it when it is on sale. Pep boys usually has it in stock but it's 12.99 or more a qt. How far between oil changes? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
