Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 3:57 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > W123 diesel coupes weren’t turbo’ed until the early 80s, like the sedans > and wagons. This one is NA and has the dreaded ACC servo. Note that they > mention the heat and AC isn’t working. That does not bode well… > ACCII + safety bumpers = a great big throbbing "NO SALE". -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
On 2021-01-05 17:00, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: Seems like the 617 Turbo was in 78-85 SD, 81-85 TD, and 82-85 CD+D They aren't all exactly the same either. Not sure what accounts for the differences but rated horsepower is from 109 to 123 HP over the OM617.950, .951, .952 variants and production years. I think the biggest difference is between the 78-79 cam and the high lift 80+ cams. My 1979 was an interim valve train, had the improved/harder cam and lifters but with the earlier geometry so no performance gain. Makes enough torque to spin the tires if it starts in first gear but I think it has less HP at high RPM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
According to NItske-they started turbo CD's mid year 81 but you are right 82 was the first full production year for turbo 617 CD's. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 5:11 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 300CD Turbos started in 1982 thru 1985. 123 body ceased after 1985. > > Bob Massmann > Oregonia, Ohio > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:59 PM > To: Mercedes List > Cc: Bob Rentfro > Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe > > I can’t ever remember seeing an NA before > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe > > > > > https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/ash-fork-vintage-mercedes-300cd-coupe/7257120615.html > > > > Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive > > email-a-friend messages in the future. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
300CD Turbos started in 1982 thru 1985. 123 body ceased after 1985. Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio -Original Message- From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:59 PM To: Mercedes List Cc: Bob Rentfro Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe I can’t ever remember seeing an NA before Sent from my iPhone Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/ash-fork-vintage-mercedes-300cd-coupe/7257120615.html Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive email-a-friend messages in the future. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
There are other subtle differences, too, like different torque converters (lock-ups in the 85 models, I believe) that also affect performance. -D > On Jan 5, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > >> Seems like the 617 Turbo was in 78-85 SD, 81-85 TD, and 82-85 CD+D > > They aren't all exactly the same either. Not sure what accounts for the > differences but rated horsepower is from 109 to 123 HP over the OM617.950, > .951, .952 variants and production years. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > Seems like the 617 Turbo was in 78-85 SD, 81-85 TD, and 82-85 CD+D They aren't all exactly the same either. Not sure what accounts for the differences but rated horsepower is from 109 to 123 HP over the OM617.950, .951, .952 variants and production years. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
W123 diesel coupes weren’t turbo’ed until the early 80s, like the sedans and wagons. This one is NA and has the dreaded ACC servo. Note that they mention the heat and AC isn’t working. That does not bode well… -D > On Jan 5, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Might have been turbo a year or two earlier in CD than D. > Dwight E. Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 4:45 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> On 2021-01-05 15:37, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: >>> I think some of the early ones were NA. Will Have to check my Nitske >>> book. >> >> >> Seems like the 617 Turbo was in 78-85 SD, 81-85 TD, and 82-85 CD+D >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
Might have been turbo a year or two earlier in CD than D. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 4:45 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2021-01-05 15:37, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > > I think some of the early ones were NA. Will Have to check my Nitske > > book. > > > Seems like the 617 Turbo was in 78-85 SD, 81-85 TD, and 82-85 CD+D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
On 2021-01-05 15:37, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: I think some of the early ones were NA. Will Have to check my Nitske book. Seems like the 617 Turbo was in 78-85 SD, 81-85 TD, and 82-85 CD+D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
I think some of the early ones were NA. Will Have to check my Nitske book. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 3:00 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I can’t ever remember seeing an NA before > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe > > > > > https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/ash-fork-vintage-mercedes-300cd-coupe/7257120615.html > > > > Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive > email-a-friend messages in the future. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
I have one, a 78 --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jan 5, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > I can’t ever remember seeing an NA before > > Sent from my iPhone > >> >> Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe >> >> https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/ash-fork-vintage-mercedes-300cd-coupe/7257120615.html >> >> Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive >> email-a-friend messages in the future. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe
Potentially a profitable BAT flip if you R/R the cracked dash. On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 3:00 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I can’t ever remember seeing an NA before > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Vintage Mercedes 300CD coupe > > > > > https://prescott.craigslist.org/cto/d/ash-fork-vintage-mercedes-300cd-coupe/7257120615.html > > > > Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive > email-a-friend messages in the future. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
