Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
I'll take a dependable old 7.3 turbo over a Cummins in a Ford any day Mike I'm sure people have thought they put away my buddy's Powerstroke. He tows 12-15k horse trailers in sixth, and won't downshift until he drops below 50mph. My parents owned a '99 Ford F350 Powerstroke which hauled a 35 foot 12.5K 5th wheel trailer. With the pedal floored, it was just enough to maintain 50MPH up the Grape Vine. I'm not sure how our Dodge Cummins would do with the same load, but it'll tow our 7K travel trailer around with ease. If I could have the '06 Cummons, or better yet, a SLIGHTLY tweaked 12 valve '94-98.5 Cummins in the '99 or later Ford crewcab, now that would be THE TRUCK! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... Message: 8 Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:00:40 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed exactly. Every step of the way the D/A has had more power than the same year Cummins. - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. Terrible for a new truck. Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it does have a TON of power. Mike And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... Message: 8 Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:00:40 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed exactly. Every step of the way the D/A has had more power than the same year Cummins. - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
No, not really. I am not saying the D/A gets better mileage than the Cummins. It will get 18ish without any problem, on up to about 21. What kind of mileage did you get with your last Duramax? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. Terrible for a new truck. Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it does have a TON of power. Mike And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. My Dodge gets 25-26 under those same conditions. 1997. I like my truck! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Jim Cathey wrote: My Dodge gets 25-26 under those same conditions. 1997. I like my truck! :-) You're older dodge also isn't going through a mid-life crisis like all the new trucks are (They're HUGE... some of the hoods are as tall as I am!). AKA You're truck has a better aerodynamic profile ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont 2001 F250 6 speed gets 24 at 55mph, about 16-17 towing an empty 5000lb flatbed at 65mph, 14-15 with the flatbed loaded, and as bad as 12 towing a 15k load of horses at 80mph. I expect a 6sp single rear wheel Dodge to beat that by 1-2 mpg. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
You have to compare apples to apples. I friend of mine told me that my 300SDL 25 highway MPG / 22 in town MPG was terrible for a diesel that I should be in the 40's. I reminded him that the same car with a V-8 - a 1987 560SEL gets 17 highway MPG / 14 in town MPG and requires premium gas. He responded with but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway, you should get the same. I gave up.. But then it's the same friend who asked me if my clicker (remote key fob) was broken when I unlocked the doors with a key. It's amazing how people expect today's technology to apply to yesterday's cars. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/07/07 09:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. Terrible for a new truck. Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it does have a TON of power. Mike And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Right. Compared to the duramax's competition, it gets poor mileage. Does GM even sell the 8.1 anymore? On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 10:55:52AM -0500, Tom Hargrave wrote: You have to compare apples to apples. I friend of mine told me that my 300SDL 25 highway MPG / 22 in town MPG was terrible for a diesel that I should be in the 40's. I reminded him that the same car with a V-8 - a 1987 560SEL gets 17 highway MPG / 14 in town MPG and requires premium gas. He responded with but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway, you should get the same. I gave up.. But then it's the same friend who asked me if my clicker (remote key fob) was broken when I unlocked the doors with a key. It's amazing how people expect today's technology to apply to yesterday's cars. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/07/07 09:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Tom Hargrave wrote: He responded with but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway, you should get the same. And if a Jetta gasser gets 33 on the hwy, so should a 560 SEL, right? (In some lineups, it does work that way. Chevy Cobalt gets something like 32 hwy with auto tranny, v6 Malibu and V6 Impala also get 32. I4 Malibu gets 34, making one wonder why the Cobalt exists) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Three reasons - marketing, marketing marketing. Look at the Japanese competition I believe you will see a compatable model that the Cobalt goes head to head with. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/07/07 11:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom Hargrave wrote: He responded with but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway, you should get the same. And if a Jetta gasser gets 33 on the hwy, so should a 560 SEL, right? (In some lineups, it does work that way. Chevy Cobalt gets something like 32 hwy with auto tranny, v6 Malibu and V6 Impala also get 32. I4 Malibu gets 34, making one wonder why the Cobalt exists) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Sure do running empty. A 7.3 Powerchoke will pull 23 in the same type of truck. Mike You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. Terrible for a new truck. Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it does have a TON of power. Mike And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
a VW is also much smaller, and more cheaply built. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel You have to compare apples to apples. I friend of mine told me that my 300SDL 25 highway MPG / 22 in town MPG was terrible for a diesel that I should be in the 40's. I reminded him that the same car with a V-8 - a 1987 560SEL gets 17 highway MPG / 14 in town MPG and requires premium gas. He responded with but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway, you should get the same. I gave up.. But then it's the same friend who asked me if my clicker (remote key fob) was broken when I unlocked the doors with a key. It's amazing how people expect today's technology to apply to yesterday's cars. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/07/07 09:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. Terrible for a new truck. Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it does have a TON of power. Mike And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt. Of couse the good mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Right. Compared to the duramax's competition, it gets poor mileage. Does GM even sell the 8.1 anymore? On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 10:55:52AM -0500, Tom Hargrave wrote: You have to compare apples to apples. I friend of mine told me that my 300SDL 25 highway MPG / 22 in town MPG was terrible for a diesel that I should be in the 40's. I reminded him that the same car with a V-8 - a 1987 560SEL gets 17 highway MPG / 14 in town MPG and requires premium gas. He responded with but it's a diesel and VW's get 40's on the highway, you should get the same. I gave up.. But then it's the same friend who asked me if my clicker (remote key fob) was broken when I unlocked the doors with a key. It's amazing how people expect today's technology to apply to yesterday's cars. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/07/07 09:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an engine with larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that. Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is certainly not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or 08 trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust. On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt. Of couse the good mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
I have never heard that one before. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Sure do running empty. A 7.3 Powerchoke will pull 23 in the same type of truck. Mike You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. Terrible for a new truck. Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it does have a TON of power. Mike And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
My work buddy's '06 1 ton/dually Dodge/Cummins with 6speed will do 24 in town and 28 on the road when empty. Beats your Durifeces hands down. Blows the socks off of a Flowerchoke also. It's for sale if you need a REAL truck :D Luther On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:33:38 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Agreed there...My friend kerry's Duramax gets 17 empty at 55mph. Terrible for a new truck. Only gets 13 or so loaded but I must say it does have a TON of power. Mike And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
I'll take a dependable old 7.3 turbo over a Cummins in a Ford any day 'there's nothin' wrong with the old IDI engines as long as you use the necessary coolant additives to prevent or lower the risk of cavitation. I bought a good '86 F350 6.9L diesel crewcab dually that had the engine rebuilt ***AGAIN*** under warranty. One cylinder had a wormhole in it,and coolant was blowing out around the air cleaner. After the problem was corrected, it was a wonderful truck for 4 years. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont --- My Cummins gets around 20 empty on the HWY at 65MPH with 7700 miles on it. The engine isn't even close to break-in, so I would anticipate a slight increase in fuel economy. It's still quite a bit better than the same truck with a Hemi or the 8.0L V10, can you say GUZZZLE? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
as bad as 12 towing a 15k load of horses at 80mph. BAD? Anything that can tow that much weight at 80MPH and still be in double digits is great! My parents had a '94 F350 5SPD 1st gen Powerstroke with an 11' camper on the back, and it was lucky to get 10MPG on the highway at 70MPH. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
1 ton/dually Dodge/Cummins with 6speed will do 24 in town and 28 on the road when empty. I have a 4X4 truck that's capable of running hard for 20 minutes under load at 55MPH on 4.5 ounces of fuel which equates to slightly less than 1 mile per ounce. Unfortunately, there's no room for a driver inside :D! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Kevin Kraly wrote: You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont The original 17 figure was for 55mph unloaded. My friend drove his 2001 F250 at 55mph for an entire tank and got 24mpg. I would expect most Dodge and Ford direct injection diesels to get in the mid 20s at 55mph, so 17 does not sound good, unless it's a dually with 4.xx final drive ratio. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
I recently drove an 03 6.0 powerchoke and I was hardly impressed with the power or mileage. According to it's onboard mileage computer we could get no more than 17 empty no matter how easy on it we were. Mike Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an engine with larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that. Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is certainly not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or 08 trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust. On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt. Of couse the good mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Yeah really.My Megadodge gets 6 at 85 pulling my car trailer with a Tracker on it..Of course it rides on 37 tires and will use the front of a Benz sized car for an RTI ramp..LOLOL Mike as bad as 12 towing a 15k load of horses at 80mph. BAD? Anything that can tow that much weight at 80MPH and still be in double digits is great! My parents had a '94 F350 5SPD 1st gen Powerstroke with an 11' camper on the back, and it was lucky to get 10MPG on the highway at 70MPH. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
It's a 4 door dually 4x4..Not sure of the gears. Mike Kevin Kraly wrote: You consider 17 to be terrible for a big truck that has over 300hp?? I sure dont The original 17 figure was for 55mph unloaded. My friend drove his 2001 F250 at 55mph for an entire tank and got 24mpg. I would expect most Dodge and Ford direct injection diesels to get in the mid 20s at 55mph, so 17 does not sound good, unless it's a dually with 4.xx final drive ratio. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Frods drink fuel --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel I recently drove an 03 6.0 powerchoke and I was hardly impressed with the power or mileage. According to it's onboard mileage computer we could get no more than 17 empty no matter how easy on it we were. Mike Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an engine with larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that. Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is certainly not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or 08 trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust. On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt. Of couse the good mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wish I could get that kind of mileage out of my old ford 7.3 IDI international, but have a 1 ton crew cab with 4.10 rear and a heavy towing bed, at last count I'm getting around 14 mpg dragging 10,000 pounds of trailer around.At least no computers to deal with on that beast. ---Robert Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: No, not really. I am not saying the D/A gets better mileage than the Cummins. It will get 18ish without any problem, on up to about 21. What kind of mileage did you get with your last Duramax? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I guess that since the administrator can veer off the Mercedes subject line with this extensive non-Mercedes conversation than that same Administrator won't scold us the next time we veer off the Mercedes subject line? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/07/07 03:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Frods drink fuel --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel I recently drove an 03 6.0 powerchoke and I was hardly impressed with the power or mileage. According to it's onboard mileage computer we could get no more than 17 empty no matter how easy on it we were. Mike Someone already told you what a powerstroke gets, and that's an engine with larger displacement. The 6.0s get better than that. Body is pretty solid on dodges, as is the frame, and the NV5600 is certainly not weak. The aisin warner six speed that dodge is using in the 07 or 08 trucks leaves the tuned down for GM allison in the dust. On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 11:57:34AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: The dodge may get better mileage, the ford sure doesnt. Of couse the good mileage is outweighed on the Dodge by the crappy body and trans. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Nobody has ever been scolded for going off topic. The only time is if it gets political or vulgar. Some OT posts is what keeps the list interesting. If all we ever talked about was MB, it would get boring. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel I guess that since the administrator can veer off the Mercedes subject line with this extensive non-Mercedes conversation than that same Administrator won't scold us the next time we veer off the Mercedes subject line? Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I understand, just could not resist the jab. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/07/07 04:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Nobody has ever been scolded for going off topic. The only time is if it gets political or vulgar. Some OT posts is what keeps the list interesting. If all we ever talked about was MB, it would get boring. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel I guess that since the administrator can veer off the Mercedes subject line with this extensive non-Mercedes conversation than that same Administrator won't scold us the next time we veer off the Mercedes subject line? Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
You can find out about that beast over on the forums at oilburners.net http://www.oilburners.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 --Robert Kevin Kraly wrote: I've come across what seems to be the deal of the century on a small Diesel bus. It's a 1994 GMC Vandura cutaway chassis 16 passenger bus with the 6.5L Diesel engine with only 79K miles on it priced at $3500. There's no mention of the turbo, but I thought that the 6.5L was equipped with a turbo. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I'm not since the turbo would breathe some life into what would be a dog otherwise. It would be transporting myself and my fellow visually impaired dragon boat paddlers around the Pacific Northwest. I forgot to mention that it's 4wd, kind of unusual for a bus. I guess you never know when you'll need it, but hey, it's there just in case although it's costing some MPG. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
There is a non-turbo 6.5. If it doesnt say turbo, its safe to say it probably doesnt have one. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:45 AM Subject: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel I've come across what seems to be the deal of the century on a small Diesel bus. It's a 1994 GMC Vandura cutaway chassis 16 passenger bus with the 6.5L Diesel engine with only 79K miles on it priced at $3500. There's no mention of the turbo, but I thought that the 6.5L was equipped with a turbo. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I'm not since the turbo would breathe some life into what would be a dog otherwise. It would be transporting myself and my fellow visually impaired dragon boat paddlers around the Pacific Northwest. I forgot to mention that it's 4wd, kind of unusual for a bus. I guess you never know when you'll need it, but hey, it's there just in case although it's costing some MPG. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kevin, That sounds like a sweet bus. The 4x4 is very rare in the busses. The 6.5 has plenty of torque without a turbo. I have friend who uses a 6.2 Suburban to pull a 3 Samurai trailer carrying over 7000# and it does OK and gets great mileage. Another friend has a 6.2 one ton crew cab that pulls an equipment trailer and bulldozer quite well. Mike I've come across what seems to be the deal of the century on a small Diesel bus. It's a 1994 GMC Vandura cutaway chassis 16 passenger bus with the 6.5L Diesel engine with only 79K miles on it priced at $3500. There's no mention of the turbo, but I thought that the 6.5L was equipped with a turbo. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I'm not since the turbo would breathe some life into what would be a dog otherwise. It would be transporting myself and my fellow visually impaired dragon boat paddlers around the Pacific Northwest. I forgot to mention that it's 4wd, kind of unusual for a bus. I guess you never know when you'll need it, but hey, it's there just in case although it's costing some MPG. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
When I had my last 6.2 suburban which I just sold, I had been towing with the Duramax for a while, then a couple of times I towed with the 6.2. GOD it was slow. I suppose if that is all you knew it would be OK but once you go with something with some real power its really a dog. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Kevin, That sounds like a sweet bus. The 4x4 is very rare in the busses. The 6.5 has plenty of torque without a turbo. I have friend who uses a 6.2 Suburban to pull a 3 Samurai trailer carrying over 7000# and it does OK and gets great mileage. Another friend has a 6.2 one ton crew cab that pulls an equipment trailer and bulldozer quite well. Mike I've come across what seems to be the deal of the century on a small Diesel bus. It's a 1994 GMC Vandura cutaway chassis 16 passenger bus with the 6.5L Diesel engine with only 79K miles on it priced at $3500. There's no mention of the turbo, but I thought that the 6.5L was equipped with a turbo. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I'm not since the turbo would breathe some life into what would be a dog otherwise. It would be transporting myself and my fellow visually impaired dragon boat paddlers around the Pacific Northwest. I forgot to mention that it's 4wd, kind of unusual for a bus. I guess you never know when you'll need it, but hey, it's there just in case although it's costing some MPG. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
Never heard of a Vandura. It's a bus? Like a Greyhound bus? What does it look like? On 8/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I had my last 6.2 suburban which I just sold, I had been towing with the Duramax for a while, then a couple of times I towed with the 6.2. GOD it was slow. I suppose if that is all you knew it would be OK but once you go with something with some real power its really a dog. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Kevin, That sounds like a sweet bus. The 4x4 is very rare in the busses. The 6.5 has plenty of torque without a turbo. I have friend who uses a 6.2 Suburban to pull a 3 Samurai trailer carrying over 7000# and it does OK and gets great mileage. Another friend has a 6.2 one ton crew cab that pulls an equipment trailer and bulldozer quite well. Mike I've come across what seems to be the deal of the century on a small Diesel bus. It's a 1994 GMC Vandura cutaway chassis 16 passenger bus with the 6.5L Diesel engine with only 79K miles on it priced at $3500. There's no mention of the turbo, but I thought that the 6.5L was equipped with a turbo. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I'm not since the turbo would breathe some life into what would be a dog otherwise. It would be transporting myself and my fellow visually impaired dragon boat paddlers around the Pacific Northwest. I forgot to mention that it's 4wd, kind of unusual for a bus. I guess you never know when you'll need it, but hey, it's there just in case although it's costing some MPG. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Never heard of a Vandura. It's a bus? Like a Greyhound bus? What does it look like? GMC van front, with a bus shell on the back instead of the normal van box. I think. Often seen in use as rental car shuttles at airports, etc. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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once you go with something with some real power its really a dog. I understand what you're saying. My Cummins will tow ANYTHING with plenty of power on demand for pulling hills and passing. The dragon boats were pulled with a rental box truck powered by a gas V8, and the driver, who had also towed the boats with my truck, said that it was a dog!!! The one time my wife and I rode up with the boats behind our truck, it was hauling 7000# on the trailer with boats and gear plus a bed full of more gear that wouldn't safely fit into the boats, all this plus a cab full of people/dogs. It was no trouble at all! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Never heard of a Vandura. It's a bus? Like a Greyhound bus? What does it look like? Here's the link to the ad. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/390101264.html Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's all about torque, not HP, when you get into some serious weight V8 gas engines can't compete with diesel engines or with some 6 cylinder gas in low end torque. When we bought the 01 Jeep Grand Cherokee, the 4 liter 6 cylinder torque HP curve was the same as the 318 V-8 up to about 4000 RPM, then the V-8 left the 6 cylinder behind. The decision was easy - buy the 6. I really want to see what the new V-6 diesel Jeep torque curve is but I'm afraid that I'll buy one if I get too close. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/06/07 03:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= once you go with something with some real power its really a dog. I understand what you're saying. My Cummins will tow ANYTHING with plenty of power on demand for pulling hills and passing. The dragon boats were pulled with a rental box truck powered by a gas V8, and the driver, who had also towed the boats with my truck, said that it was a dog!!! The one time my wife and I rode up with the boats behind our truck, it was hauling 7000# on the trailer with boats and gear plus a bed full of more gear that wouldn't safely fit into the boats, all this plus a cab full of people/dogs. It was no trouble at all! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hm, that's funny. Passed a duramax last night on one of the steeper grades along the coast. He had a small travel trailer, I had a full bed of firewood, and a car on a trailer. He could cruise at 70 on the flats, the second he hit a hill, it was all over. Caught fifth with the cummins, showed him three sets of taillights, and cruised up effortlessly at the limit the whole way up. Duramaxes have good numbers, I fail to be impressed with them in the real world though. On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 10:19:49AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: When I had my last 6.2 suburban which I just sold, I had been towing with the Duramax for a while, then a couple of times I towed with the 6.2. GOD it was slow. I suppose if that is all you knew it would be OK but once you go with something with some real power its really a dog. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You do not know if he was trying to pass you going up the hill or not. In the real world, a D/A will pass a cummins anytime. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel Hm, that's funny. Passed a duramax last night on one of the steeper grades along the coast. He had a small travel trailer, I had a full bed of firewood, and a car on a trailer. He could cruise at 70 on the flats, the second he hit a hill, it was all over. Caught fifth with the cummins, showed him three sets of taillights, and cruised up effortlessly at the limit the whole way up. Duramaxes have good numbers, I fail to be impressed with them in the real world though. On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 10:19:49AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: When I had my last 6.2 suburban which I just sold, I had been towing with the Duramax for a while, then a couple of times I towed with the 6.2. GOD it was slow. I suppose if that is all you knew it would be OK but once you go with something with some real power its really a dog. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He was trying to be a hot foot, just couldn't hang. Could tell because he caught up with me after I stopped for fuel. Just couldn't hack it on the hills. If a D/A *WITH A LOAD* will pass a cummins anytime, I'll believe it when I finally see it. On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 05:11:03PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: You do not know if he was trying to pass you going up the hill or not. In the real world, a D/A will pass a cummins anytime. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I see it all the time. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel He was trying to be a hot foot, just couldn't hang. Could tell because he caught up with me after I stopped for fuel. Just couldn't hack it on the hills. If a D/A *WITH A LOAD* will pass a cummins anytime, I'll believe it when I finally see it. On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 05:11:03PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: You do not know if he was trying to pass you going up the hill or not. In the real world, a D/A will pass a cummins anytime. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I see it all the time. I'm sure people have thought they put away my buddy's Powerstroke. He tows 12-15k horse trailers in sixth, and won't downshift until he drops below 50mph. Anybody with an automatic tranny can romp on it and fly by him on a hill. And then there's the age thing, with the horsepower race raging as it has for the last ten years, it's not fair to compare one maker's 2000 model with another maker's 2005. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
exactly. Every step of the way the D/A has had more power than the same year Cummins. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I see it all the time. I'm sure people have thought they put away my buddy's Powerstroke. He tows 12-15k horse trailers in sixth, and won't downshift until he drops below 50mph. Anybody with an automatic tranny can romp on it and fly by him on a hill. And then there's the age thing, with the horsepower race raging as it has for the last ten years, it's not fair to compare one maker's 2000 model with another maker's 2005. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
It seems than at Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:35:00 -0500, Tom wrote: It's all about torque, not HP, when you get into some serious weight V8 gas engines can't compete with diesel engines or with some 6 cylinder gas in low end torque. Not really. Horsepower can be turned into torque with a transmission. There is a very fixed relationship between torque and horsepower (HP) - RPM (or speed). If the RPM and the HP are know, the torque can be computed. What muddies the waters is that HP numbers are, by nature, biggest at high RPM - often un-usefully high. At any given RPM with matching transmission ratios, the engine with the greater torque will win. But it will also have greater HP at that RPM. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:27:30 -0500 Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very fixed relationship between torque and horsepower (HP) - RPM (or speed). If the RPM and the HP are know, the torque can be computed. 2 * pi * torque (ft-lb) * RPM --- = horsepower 33,000 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
I'm sure people have thought they put away my buddy's Powerstroke. He tows 12-15k horse trailers in sixth, and won't downshift until he drops below 50mph. My parents owned a '99 Ford F350 Powerstroke which hauled a 35 foot 12.5K 5th wheel trailer. With the pedal floored, it was just enough to maintain 50MPH up the Grape Vine. I'm not sure how our Dodge Cummins would do with the same load, but it'll tow our 7K travel trailer around with ease. If I could have the '06 Cummons, or better yet, a SLIGHTLY tweaked 12 valve '94-98.5 Cummins in the '99 or later Ford crewcab, now that would be THE TRUCK! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
