Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION
I like the empirical method. Swap in another speedo, observe and react accordingly. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz wrote: I'm probably wrong but it is my understanding that things can't be lubricated. Which would be daft 'cos the mechanism spends its life drying out in a dashboard roasted by sun, radio equipment and the internal heating system. As I say, I'm probably wrong. Euan andrew strasfogel wrote: D'OH! At least I didn't buy now, ask later. I'm beginning to think that what I need to do is sensitively lube inside the speedo, since the cable is new and therefore blameless. If someone wants to argue me out of this, have at it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090320/de857add/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION
I'm probably wrong but it is my understanding that things can't be lubricated. Can, and have been. I had a 'shrieker' that responded well to lubricating the bearing in the head. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION
Was it jittery at low speeds as well, Jim? On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm probably wrong but it is my understanding that things can't be lubricated. Can, and have been. I had a 'shrieker' that responded well to lubricating the bearing in the head. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090320/3c0483bd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION
Was it jittery at low speeds as well, Jim? I don't remember, actually. But you can lube them, and except on a 107 (which mine was) they're fairly easy to get out so it couldn't hurt. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
Doesn't resemble anything attached to my speedo, Andrew Euan I found it on ebay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-w123-Speedometer-Sender-300d-240d-280d-300td_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ120369676676QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3210wt_828 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
Thats just the speed sensor for the cruise control. dave '77 240d '84 245 TurboBrick Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:06:06 +1200 From: Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49c20afe.4010...@paradise.net.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Doesn't resemble anything attached to my speedo, Andrew Euan I found it on ebay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-w123-Speedometer-Sender-300d-240d-280d-300td_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ120369676676QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3210wt_828 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
D'OH! At least I didn't buy now, ask later. I'm beginning to think that what I need to do is sensitively lube inside the speedo, since the cable is new and therefore blameless. If someone wants to argue me out of this, have at it. 2009/3/19 dbl...@comcast.net Thats just the speed sensor for the cruise control. dave '77 240d '84 245 TurboBrick Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:06:06 +1200 From: Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49c20afe.4010...@paradise.net.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Doesn't resemble anything attached to my speedo, Andrew Euan I found it on ebay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-w123-Speedometer-Sender-300d-240d-280d-300td_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ120369676676QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3210wt_828 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090319/493a2f57/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION
I'm probably wrong but it is my understanding that things can't be lubricated. Which would be daft 'cos the mechanism spends its life drying out in a dashboard roasted by sun, radio equipment and the internal heating system. As I say, I'm probably wrong. Euan andrew strasfogel wrote: D'OH! At least I didn't buy now, ask later. I'm beginning to think that what I need to do is sensitively lube inside the speedo, since the cable is new and therefore blameless. If someone wants to argue me out of this, have at it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
Is there anything inside the speedometer itself that could case it to be jittery, assuming the cable is PERFECT? On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:07 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Euan, Just to make sure, Are you replacing the complete cable, inner flex and outer sleeve or just the inner flex drive? If you are doing just the inner flex then it could be that the outer cover needs to be replaced as it may be too worn and causing the inner flex drive to get damaged very quickly. Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:54:36 +1200 From: Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo Hi Andrew I'll be interested in replies to this. I've lived with a jittery speedo since an indy barbarian screwed up a speedo recalibration 180,000 miles ago. The fix has always been to replace the cable. In all other respects, everything seems to be fine. Cable takes the correct path from go-to-wo, and the speedo itself has checked out OK. However, it seems to me that I'm replacing the cable far too often. The jitter problem is most accentuated during summer when the wagon (normally garaged) sees more of the sun on the dashboard. Cheers Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090318/eb8d8361/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
I've replaced the outer sleeve once. Don't remember how long ago, but I do remember that it didn't alter the regularity with which I've been replacing the inner cable since. By 'regularity', I mean once every 2-3 years. The instruments experts I sent my speedo to for testing and lubricating could not fault the mechanism, and could not replicate the jitter on the test bench. I don't have a spare diesel speedo I can fit to //test where the fault lies. I have several in instrument clusters for petrol wagons (now minus oil pressure gauges), but these are calibrated for higher speeds. I'm assuming that these would not be suitable for an /in situ/ test of my diesel wagon gear Euan CHCH NZ Is there anything inside the speedometer itself that could case it to be jittery, assuming the cable is PERFECT? On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:07 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Euan, Just to make sure, Are you replacing the complete cable, inner flex and outer sleeve or just the inner flex drive? If you are doing just the inner flex then it could be that the outer cover needs to be replaced as it may be too worn and causing the inner flex drive to get damaged very quickly. Manfred -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090319/9198fb66/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
I found it on ebay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-w123-Speedometer-Sender-300d-240d-280d-300td_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ120369676676QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3210wt_828 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:15 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Is there anything inside the speedometer itself that could case it to be jittery, assuming the cable is PERFECT? On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:07 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Euan, Just to make sure, Are you replacing the complete cable, inner flex and outer sleeve or just the inner flex drive? If you are doing just the inner flex then it could be that the outer cover needs to be replaced as it may be too worn and causing the inner flex drive to get damaged very quickly. Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:54:36 +1200 From: Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo Hi Andrew I'll be interested in replies to this. I've lived with a jittery speedo since an indy barbarian screwed up a speedo recalibration 180,000 miles ago. The fix has always been to replace the cable. In all other respects, everything seems to be fine. Cable takes the correct path from go-to-wo, and the speedo itself has checked out OK. However, it seems to me that I'm replacing the cable far too often. The jitter problem is most accentuated during summer when the wagon (normally garaged) sees more of the sun on the dashboard. Cheers Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090318/a2f944cb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
andrew strasfogel wrote: I found it on ebay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-w123-Speedometer-Sender-300d-240d-280d-300td_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ120369676676QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3210wt_828 What's that, a mile counter for a service O2 sensor lamp on a gasser? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
The cable was recently installed by a professional, and then he rechecked the connection. I'll take a look at this weekend when the car is on the lift at a club tech session. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: You might have a kinky cable. I'd start with checking the cable's path for anomalies. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: My 1983 300TD with a transplanted 1985 300D transmission has a new speedo cable, but the speedometer gauge is jittery from zero up to around 30 mph. Is there any fix for this annoying little issue? I checked and the cable is properly attached. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090316/f999e4e4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090317/be9914b6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
Hi Andrew I'll be interested in replies to this. I've lived with a jittery speedo since an indy barbarian screwed up a speedo recalibration 180,000 miles ago. The fix has always been to replace the cable. In all other respects, everything seems to be fine. Cable takes the correct path from go-to-wo, and the speedo itself has checked out OK. However, it seems to me that I'm replacing the cable far too often. The jitter problem is most accentuated during summer when the wagon (normally garaged) sees more of the sun on the dashboard. Cheers Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi Christchurch NZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
In that case it MUST be the speedometer itself. Have you swapped it out for a unit that is known to work properly? What about the speed sensor (?) on back of the speedometer? Or am I thinking of the tach pickup? On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz wrote: Hi Andrew I'll be interested in replies to this. I've lived with a jittery speedo since an indy barbarian screwed up a speedo recalibration 180,000 miles ago. The fix has always been to replace the cable. In all other respects, everything seems to be fine. Cable takes the correct path from go-to-wo, and the speedo itself has checked out OK. However, it seems to me that I'm replacing the cable far too often. The jitter problem is most accentuated during summer when the wagon (normally garaged) sees more of the sun on the dashboard. Cheers Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi Christchurch NZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090317/791d9b02/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
Euan, Just to make sure, Are you replacing the complete cable, inner flex and outer sleeve or just the inner flex drive? If you are doing just the inner flex then it could be that the outer cover needs to be replaced as it may be too worn and causing the inner flex drive to get damaged very quickly. Manfred Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:54:36 +1200 From: Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo Hi Andrew I'll be interested in replies to this. I've lived with a jittery speedo since an indy barbarian screwed up a speedo recalibration 180,000 miles ago. The fix has always been to replace the cable. In all other respects, everything seems to be fine. Cable takes the correct path from go-to-wo, and the speedo itself has checked out OK. However, it seems to me that I'm replacing the cable far too often. The jitter problem is most accentuated during summer when the wagon (normally garaged) sees more of the sun on the dashboard. Cheers Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 215K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
You might have a kinky cable. I'd start with checking the cable's path for anomalies. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: My 1983 300TD with a transplanted 1985 300D transmission has a new speedo cable, but the speedometer gauge is jittery from zero up to around 30 mph. Is there any fix for this annoying little issue? I checked and the cable is properly attached. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090316/f999e4e4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
