Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
also, flashing your high beams at oncoming traffic means smokey is up ahead. Chuck Landenberger wrote: Kaleb, Your absolutely right.. And then the trucker flashes his christmas tree and moves over in front of you.. Used to give me a chill Real communication without saying a

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
Here's a disturbing bit of trivia. Were you aware that in some areas that I've lived, gang member types will flash their head lights at you, and if you flash back, they'll take you on with the intention of a nice shooting? Brian Who would prefer to be in his 68 Coronet in that situation On

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Here's a disturbing bit of trivia. Were you aware that in some areas that I've lived, gang member types will flash their head lights at you, and if you flash back, they'll take you on with the intention of a nice shooting? That's a particularly persistent urban legend, but

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
Really? Guess I'll have to check my sources. But they do live the life. I would doubt they were so easily tricked. It is quite believable that this info. was spread fraudulently, but it doesn't mean that it didn't happen on a smaller scale. And this was before the internet. And folks with fax

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: Here's a disturbing bit of trivia. Were you aware that in some areas that I've lived, gang member types will flash their head lights at you, and if you flash back, they'll take you on with the intention of a nice shooting? And the odds of that happening to you probably

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread John W. Reames III
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, David Brodbeck wrote: That won't help. A longer learner permit will just give them more time to absorb their parents' bad habits. What we need is a more serious approach to driver education. Take a look at maryland's graduated licensing program --

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
How do you know that, Mitch? Brian On 9/27/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: Here's a disturbing bit of trivia. Were you aware that in some areas that I've lived, gang member types will flash their head lights at you, and if you flash back, they'll take you on

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread Bob Rentfro
, September 27, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble How do you know that, Mitch? Brian On 9/27/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: Here's a disturbing bit of trivia. Were you aware that in some areas that I've lived, gang member types

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread Rich Thomas
A coupla flashes from a pair of 100W off-road lights aimed properly will give them enough photons that they won't be able to see well enough to shoot straight at you. This also works well on BMW drivers who leave their aux driving lights on all the time. --R Zoltan Finks wrote: gang member

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-27 Thread Zoltan Finks
It's funny, right now gmail is advertising all sorts of headlights to me over to the side. Brian On 9/27/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A coupla flashes from a pair of 100W off-road lights aimed properly will give them enough photons that they won't be able to see well enough to

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Brian, Just use your turn signals and stop causing yourself so much stress and tension! You'll feel better and those of us who also use turn signals thank you for joining us in our fight to GET EVERYONE TO USE TURN SIGNALS! I learned how to use CAPS from Marshall to emphasize a point!

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread LarryT
/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble Mike On 9/25/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 4:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble So if I don't signal when nobody's behind me or are 2 to 3 miles back, am I breaking the law should I get a ticket? And I do live in Calif. Rory

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen
machines able to operate at high speeds. - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble If you really

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread dave walton
trainingooh and of course quality machines able to operate at high speeds. - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh hell, that reminds me of the last time I was in Alaska. ALL the highways are 2 lane there. Out in the middle of nowhere on this curvy, up and down highway, Im cruising along at posted up to probably 10 over. I see this log truck in the distance. Coming up FAST. He then rides my ass ALL

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Rory
AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield. Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield. I take it you have never driven in Europe - or have done so with ignorance. Might want

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread LarryT
://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Zoltan Finks
You're not kidding! This point was brought to my attention big time when we drove a new Chevy Cavalier. They make it so sporty and appealing to the kids in the styling. The rear deck is very hard to see over. And you're right, this trend is pretty big nowadays. It would be nice in that it gives

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
You're not kidding! This point was brought to my attention big time when we drove a new Chevy Cavalier. They make it so sporty and appealing to the kids in the styling. The rear deck is very hard to see over. And you're right, this trend is pretty big nowadays. I hate the 'bunker mentality'.

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield. Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield. I take it you have never driven in Europe

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread John W. Reames III
Some days I'd swear they are really masculinity challenge annunciators -j.

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger
: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield. Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield. I take it you have never driven in Europe - or have done so

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Zoltan Finks
: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield. Turning off lights momentarily signals

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Zoltan Finks
Chuck, I like that. I'll try. Brian On 9/25/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Just use your turn signals and stop causing yourself so much stress and tension! You'll feel better and those of us who also use turn signals thank you for joining us in our fight to GET

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread David Brodbeck
LarryT wrote: But it's never gonna change - if anything drivers will continue to get worse. We need to raise the drivers lic age to more than 16 and extend the Learner's Permit time so they can get some experience. That won't help. A longer learner permit will just give them more time

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread David Brodbeck
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Flashing headlights means you want to pass. Headlights off and on mean you are going to yield, as in, its safe for whoever to pull back into your lane. Kaleb's comment lines up with my own experience. I've observed that signal many times, and occasionally used

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Rory
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does anymore?? - I've given up on signaling because so few people do

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does anymore?? - I've given up

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Michael Hall
. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does anymore?? - I've given up on signaling because so few

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Michael Hall
on a seatbelt. Sounds like the idiots are dragging you down to their level. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
you down to their level. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread dave walton
. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does anymore?? - I've

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Wow. That is harsh. BUT I can see your side too - you cannot do your job because people in cars will simply not let you in. What can you do besides inch over? That sounds like the good compromise. Now, those who will intentionally ditch people, I just can't see that. Also: Your theory assumes

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Michael Hall
The left lane is for passing. How come 98% of people on the road don't understand this? Its not for driving slightly faster than the right lane. Mike On 9/25/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. That is harsh. BUT I can see your side too - you cannot do your job because people in

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Exactly, I would only inch to the line, but it sends a message. I thought it was pretty harsh at first when the old guys were teaching me, but after about the third time of missing a ramp due to a line of clowns not letting me over and having to go 40+ miles down the road before finding a

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: And I, too, like to reward good behavior and - most would say I step over the line - punish bad behavior. You sound like a customer for something I saw advertised in Autoweek about 15 years ago. I believe the manufacturer's name was Brake Light Industries. The product

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'm not certain what you mean by not signalling even when no one is around having an effect on traffic, but it brings me to another point: When people see others not signaling, it subconsciously becomes the thing to do, 'til it's at the point it is now: It is simply not the thing to do to

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Michael Hall
AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does anymore?? - I've given up on signaling because so few people do

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Oh yes, I see cars punch it to get past a large vehicle when it puts on its bliker. They ain't gettin stuck behind that thing. And yes, people should not just cruise along beside trucks, or preferably any car. Brian On 9/25/06, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly, I would

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Oh I see it, and I am frustrated. I'm just trying to figure out how much I should care about the good of the world around me that doesn't seem to be doing the same. I may be assanine, but to faithfully use your turn signal in order to do the right thing began to seem naive and to get old. And I'm

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-25 Thread David Brodbeck
Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Those guys that will ditch them, that's just plain rough and uncalled for, but they are in the right legally and if the bozo's in the cars weren't driving unsafely and illegally, they wouldn't be in that position. When I lived in Houghton, I heard a news story

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-24 Thread David Brodbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does anymore?? - I've given up on signaling because so few people do it). You had better get back in the habit because it's the law here and it's a primary

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-24 Thread Hendrik Riessen
the idiots are dragging you down to their level. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-23 Thread RELNGSON
I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does anymore?? - I've given up on signaling because so few people do it). You had better get back in the habit because it's the law here and it's a primary offense. And those who don't deserve a