On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:17:31 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
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A couple years ago Dad and I setup a bottle jack pushing down on a
piston (with a chain around the block so it could push down). I think
this would be more effective with 4 jacks.
Unless you're thinking of two jacks
Uhh, 4 jacks, 2 going down and 2 going up...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:56:52 -0700
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:50:11 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
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I'm sort of half planning this summer to run a bead of weld across each
one and whack it with a chisel so they shatter. The tractor sat for 40
years after all...
Why would you want to do that instead of try to get
Curt Raymond wrote:
I have a '28 Farmall Regular which has steel pistons. If I can ever get the
dammed
things out I'll take a picture.
Do you remember the way Jim Cathey removed the pistons from that rusty Hercules
generator?
I have a '28 Farmall Regular which has steel pistons. If I can ever
get the dammed things out I'll take a picture.
Do you remember the way Jim Cathey removed the pistons from that rusty
Hercules generator?
But they were aluminum pistons, and were untouched by the corrosion.
So I was ahead by
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:50:11 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
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I'm sort of half planning this summer to run a bead
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:50:11 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
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I'm sort of half planning this summer to run
parents house in Maine, thats
180 odd miles from where I live. I really need to take a week off from work and
just set my mind to the task.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:54:02 -0600
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However I intend to get it to run again with new pistons. These have
sat in the exact same place for something like 40 years. I expect
thats longer than Jim's generator has existed...
The Kohler is about 1965 vintage. So there!
I've tried better living through chemistry and time for
Actually I have and its one reason I've held off on the rr on the
head. It is a good way to break rods though so I'm thinking to try
heat first.
You don't do it with the rod connected, or at least not with it
near TDC or BDC.
The worst thing is that the tractor is at my parents house in
I'm getting in on this thread way late, but you think this might work?
I
have no idea...
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm
That _is_ the trick. Yeah, it works. Not so great when
the rust is trapped inside, like between a cylinder wall
and a piston, but still...
-- Jim
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Actually I have and its one reason I've held off on the rr on the
head. It is a good way to break rods
How about CLR - Calcium, Lime, and Rust remover.
If I recall my chemistry correctly, you want some liquid which is
acidic in nature a Ph of 7 or much less is better. This will dissolve
the metal/rust etc.. Hopefully, the rings causing the problem will
dissolve before the other metals
Al has a melting point of about 1220F ..
Bill
1981 300 TD
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Do you recall the material used to make the engine block???
Audi made a diesel engine at the famous 24 Hours of Le Mans. The new
Audi R10 is powered by a completely new 5.5-litre, twelve-cylinder
bi-turbo
Bill Gallagher wrote:
Al has a melting point of about 1220F ..
Isn't the melting point of some alloys higher?
There are certainly a lot of engines, both diesel and gasoline, running
around with aluminum heads that haven't melted down.
I don't know about alloys, but I think the melting point will be much
higher i.e. Al pistons. Al is good transfer of heat/cold
Land Rover have Al body but the engine firewall is made out of steel
to protect from fire ...
Next time in a junk yard, look at the melted/deformed Al parts of a
I don't think the problem will be melting, rather can it handle the
stresses of an engine that produces 650HP and 811 lb.ft. of torque --
The new Mercedes V8's are Al blocks, and the AMG versions produce some
seriuos power also - so it comes down to engineering ---
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I don't know about alloys, but I think the melting point will be much
higher i.e. Al pistons. Al is good transfer of heat/cold
Land Rover have Al body but the engine firewall is made out
Although I'm sure that they exist, I've never seen a piston that
wasn't aluminum ---
On 3/4/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since aluminum is the topic of the moment, I do believe I had some TRW
forged aluminum pistons installed as part of the rebuild of my 440 c.i. V8.
They would
You have partially revealed my ignorance. Easy to do.
Brian
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Although I'm sure that they exist, I've
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I don't know about alloys, but I think the melting point will be much
higher i.e. Al pistons. Al is good transfer of heat/cold
Land Rover have Al body
On Mar 4, 2006, at 6:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't figure out if this is a serious post or not.
RLE
I wasn't too sure of that one either. How often does your Porsche
require replacing due to melting?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:03 PM, Bill Gallagher wrote:
Next time in a junk yard, look at the melted/deformed Al parts
of a
car in a fire..of course, water cools the heads and others, but a
car fire, nothing to cool the part, will melt/deform under the high
heat
Bill
On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Brian Chase wrote:
Since aluminum is the topic of the moment, I do believe I had some TRW
forged aluminum pistons installed as part of the rebuild of my 440
c.i. V8.
They would take some heat, wouldn't they?
Brian
They better hold up, what other affordable
On Mar 4, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Bill Gallagher wrote:
Don't you recall pistons melting... too hot of a plug/timing advanced
too much ? For whatever the reason?
Just wanted to point out the disadvantage of AL It will deform/
melt
under some situation: Should have fire insurance on a car which
John Berryman wrote:
Magnesium is another story.
VW Beetles used magnesium alloy crankcases and transmission housings.
(Some of these were later switched to aluminum for strength reasons --
magnesium is light, but also soft.) If an engine fire really gets going
I'm told it can
Do you recall the material used to make the engine block???
Audi made a diesel engine at the famous 24 Hours of Le Mans. The new
Audi R10 is powered by a completely new 5.5-litre, twelve-cylinder
bi-turbo TDI engine which is extremely economical and quiet. Believe it
or not made Made from aluminum
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I can't figure out if this is a serious post or not.
Yeah, an aluminum block will melt slower than aluminum pistons
and heads. It may very well suffer from stress fractures before
it hits 500,000 miles of normal driving, but in racing applications
engines are
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