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Well its about as bad as wasting a perfectly good 603 installing it in a ford. There will be such a beast at the Q. Jim Cathey wrote: heat as I can afford. I will probably use the 240D engine I will be getting for the cogen as it will be more efficient running 2 less cylinders How so? I think the typical SDL gets better mileage than the typical 240D. (Both with automatics.) Though it'd be a shame to waste a good 603 on a stationary installation that would do just as well with a 616. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Thanks David.Just so happens I know some VW nutcases that are likely to have them laying around.COOL. Mike - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL Mike Canfield wrote: Mitch, You are on the same track as I. I am looking at a exhaust to air and coolant to air heat exchangers to start out with and then plumb in baseboard heat as I can afford. Exhaust-to-air: Try to track down a junked 1972-1979 VW Bus. The bigger Type IV engine that was used for those years had a pair of exhaust-to-air heat exchangers for cabin heat. These were much bigger and sturdier than the ones used on Beetles and earlier buses. The outer jackets sometimes rust out or get full of oil, but the inner exhaust tubes and their cast-aluminum fins generally hold up pretty well. The 1980-1982 air-cooled VW Vanagon probably used the same design. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's what I figured. A tranny will probably be in the works. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL HHH...Maybe a new cogen system powerplant.How well do these engines like 1800RPM or so continuously I wonder? It's a bit low for optimum torque. I think most MB engines would be happier at about 2400 RPM. My genset plans always include a transmission as well for this reason. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thinking the 4 cyl should be more efficient as I am not even coming close to using the power either engine can produce. Either is overkill really. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL heat as I can afford. I will probably use the 240D engine I will be getting for the cogen as it will be more efficient running 2 less cylinders How so? I think the typical SDL gets better mileage than the typical 240D. (Both with automatics.) Though it'd be a shame to waste a good 603 on a stationary installation that would do just as well with a 616. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim Cathey wrote: It's a bit low for optimum torque. I think most MB engines would be happier at about 2400 RPM. My genset plans always include a transmission as well for this reason. If you can get a mbz for scrap metal prices, it's worth looking for a 2400rpm generator head. Otherwise, why not use a Cummins 4bt from an old bread truck? With torque peak around 1600, they should be quite happy with a 4 pole generator.
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If the Cummins were half as common to find for a reasonable price I would LOVE to use one. Would be the best choice for my M37 as well. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL Jim Cathey wrote: It's a bit low for optimum torque. I think most MB engines would be happier at about 2400 RPM. My genset plans always include a transmission as well for this reason. If you can get a mbz for scrap metal prices, it's worth looking for a 2400rpm generator head. Otherwise, why not use a Cummins 4bt from an old bread truck? With torque peak around 1600, they should be quite happy with a 4 pole generator. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dr. BioD? On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:25:15 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well its about as bad as wasting a perfectly good 603 installing it in a ford. There will be such a beast at the Q. Jim Cathey wrote: heat as I can afford. I will probably use the 240D engine I will be getting for the cogen as it will be more efficient running 2 less cylinders How so? I think the typical SDL gets better mileage than the typical 240D. (Both with automatics.) Though it'd be a shame to waste a good 603 on a stationary installation that would do just as well with a 616. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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uh, no Luther Gulseth wrote: Dr. BioD? On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:25:15 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well its about as bad as wasting a perfectly good 603 installing it in a ford. There will be such a beast at the Q. Jim Cathey wrote: heat as I can afford. I will probably use the 240D engine I will be getting for the cogen as it will be more efficient running 2 less cylinders How so? I think the typical SDL gets better mileage than the typical 240D. (Both with automatics.) Though it'd be a shame to waste a good 603 on a stationary installation that would do just as well with a 616. -- Jim -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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ARGH. Why are all the good parts cars 1000+ miles away?? Oh yeah, I know. Kaleb and Tom have bought them all. Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-Benz-300SDL-300-SDL-turbo- diesel-New- York_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6783QQihZ019QQitemZ8076988385QQrdZ1QQsspagenam eZWDVW Nice maint. spreadsheet. Is it fixable??? I dunno... No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
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HHH...Maybe a new cogen system powerplant.How well do these engines like 1800RPM or so continuously I wonder? Mike - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-Benz-300SDL-300-SDL-turbo-diesel-New-York_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6783QQihZ019QQitemZ8076988385QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Nice maint. spreadsheet. Is it fixable??? I dunno... No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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its for sure a parts car, that thing has WAY more rust problems than a rusted control arm. I have NEVER seen one that bad before. Rick Knoble wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-Benz-300SDL-300-SDL-turbo-diesel-New-York_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6783QQihZ019QQitemZ8076988385QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Nice maint. spreadsheet. Is it fixable??? I dunno... No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Mike Canfield wrote: HHH...Maybe a new cogen system powerplant.How well do these engines like 1800RPM or so continuously I wonder? I think full timing advance kicks in at 2000-2200. I think a 603 would be happier at 2400rpm with a three pole generator. Cogeneration can be very efficient if you're running hot water heat with a water cooled exhaust.
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Nuttin 5 gallons of bondo and a good welder won't fix.That's a nice one here.LOLOLOL Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL HOLY CATS look at that rust! Yoinks, parts machine I think... -Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:36:55 -0500 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-Benz-300SDL-300-SDL-turbo-diesel-New-York_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6783QQihZ019QQitemZ8076988385QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Nice maint. spreadsheet. Is it fixable??? I dunno... No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Yahoo! Groups gets better. Check out the new email design. Plus there's much more to come. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh, yeah, we get that up here. For some reason 1986, maybe '87 too, was a problematic year for some w126s. I have seen 300SDLs and 300SEs with incredible rust issues, and peculiarly not the same rust issues as the earlier w126 cars. I can only assume Mercedes was kicking in some cost-saving change on the production line at the time, and it flew like a dodo when the cars aged. Stuff like that suspension failure, door rot (inside out) at the door handle openings, rotten front dress panels and inner fenders, even rusted thru fender tops. Yet the V8 cars don't seem to suffer the same way. But maybe that's because the diesels tend to accumulate mileage faster. Dunno. Mac. on 6/22/06 2:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its for sure a parts car, that thing has WAY more rust problems than a rusted control arm. I have NEVER seen one that bad before. Rick Knoble wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-Benz-300SDL-300-SDL-turbo-diesel -New-York_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6783QQihZ019QQitemZ8076988385QQrdZ1QQssp agenameZWDVW Nice maint. spreadsheet. Is it fixable??? I dunno... No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch, You are on the same track as I. I am looking at a exhaust to air and coolant to air heat exchangers to start out with and then plumb in baseboard heat as I can afford. I will probably use the 240D engine I will be getting for the cogen as it will be more efficient running 2 less cylinders..Might buy it and e-bay the parts if the price stays low enough. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL Mike Canfield wrote: HHH...Maybe a new cogen system powerplant.How well do these engines like 1800RPM or so continuously I wonder? I think full timing advance kicks in at 2000-2200. I think a 603 would be happier at 2400rpm with a three pole generator. Cogeneration can be very efficient if you're running hot water heat with a water cooled exhaust. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mike Canfield wrote: Mitch, You are on the same track as I. I am looking at a exhaust to air and coolant to air heat exchangers to start out with and then plumb in baseboard heat as I can afford. Exhaust-to-air: Try to track down a junked 1972-1979 VW Bus. The bigger Type IV engine that was used for those years had a pair of exhaust-to-air heat exchangers for cabin heat. These were much bigger and sturdier than the ones used on Beetles and earlier buses. The outer jackets sometimes rust out or get full of oil, but the inner exhaust tubes and their cast-aluminum fins generally hold up pretty well. The 1980-1982 air-cooled VW Vanagon probably used the same design.
Re: [MBZ] NY eBay parts SDL
HHH...Maybe a new cogen system powerplant.How well do these engines like 1800RPM or so continuously I wonder? It's a bit low for optimum torque. I think most MB engines would be happier at about 2400 RPM. My genset plans always include a transmission as well for this reason. -- Jim
