Re: [MBZ] Nearly dead 87 300D battery/neat start
On Jun 7, 2006, at 6:51 PM, wilton strickland wrote: Yes Johnny, It's all good. I understand. 'Just thought an absolutely static start was really neat and indicates well-tuned engine. 'Not complaining. Wilton I think its cool too. Makes you proud of your maintenance regimen. It does kinda remind me of a hang-fire in a black powder rifle. Sometimes my bike will sneeze when I turn the key on. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Nearly dead 87 300D battery/neat start
WHAT? I don't think generators came on as standard equipment until the styled tractors in '39 and you could still order a magneto ignition (starter delete) until the Supers came out in '52. This was an F12, '35 IIRC, my great uncle used it to mow around the house with a 5' bellymower. -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:41:56 -0700 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nearly dead 87 300D battery/neat start To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I had an old Farmall tractor that I always have to remember to park in gear, you could turn it over so easy the wind on the fan blades would crank it and it'd be sitting there idling when I came home. Never heard of a Farmall with a magneto before! -- Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 08 18:42:20 2006 Received: from fed1rmmtao09.cox.net ([68.230.241.30]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FoPSW-0005Sf-4H for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:42:20 + Received: from familycomp ([68.106.48.86]) by fed1rmmtao09.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:42:10 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 11:42:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] Was '72 350SL, Now: We're Good Guys X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:42:20 - I felt badly last night thinking about how that poor old guy could = barely stand up outdoors, willing to fill me in on his car as I looked. = So...today I called him to give him my name and number telling him that = when he feels up to it give me a call so I can give it a good once over = and drive it. He said that would be great. He then went into a little = spiel about how considerate that was of me and about how people who own = older Mercedes are generally very nice and considerate that way. He then = mentioned how he was glad some one who knew whar he was getting and = would take good care of it was fixin' to buy his car. What a nice = feller. I felt glad/proud for all of us. It appears we're not as looney as our = spouses sometimes think. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 154K '01 VW Beetle TDI 66K working on getting 72 350SL 78K (woo hoo) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 08 18:49:34 2006 Received: from web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.36]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FoPZV-0006An-Mb for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:49:34 + Received: (qmail 31595 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2006 18:49:24 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dP9ItWtKrcbnPlCz4Xt1lZdlBuUXv7XzyDQ9ie8EdQYU8ma7+3GFuzhg02yCzOrhL94+z60ySs8vx5qkFQe1cZzgiKFTBUvVdLQ+1hVzLJrY+veItLGcI0pY8Zna9eXZDKmRWGU711GNKaATFTgGl15Q8CdqQ/JV/qfKCbgwZQs= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:49:24 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 11:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jim, did you call this fellow? X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List
Re: [MBZ] Nearly dead 87 300D battery/neat start
You just can't buy quality anymore huh? ;) I had an old Farmall tractor that I always have to remember to park in gear, you could turn it over so easy the wind on the fan blades would crank it and it'd be sitting there idling when I came home. -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:35:03 -0400 From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Nearly dead 87 300D battery/neat start To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Abt 3 times last weekend, my 87 300D starter and engine turned VERY slowly for ~1 rev and stopped as I held key in start position for another ~3 seconds with starter and engine stopped. The instant I released key, engine did a very neat thing - started from a non-rotating condition. After lunch Mon, 'had to jump it; immediately installed Diehard 805 CCA. Old bat was only 6 1/2 yrs old. Wilton __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 08 02:56:54 2006 Received: from pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.72]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FoAha-0003uP-Hu for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:56:54 + Received: from dialup-4.224.39.77.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.39.77]) by pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FoAhX-Io-00 for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 22:56:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:54:50 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM 603 no start X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:56:54 - If the shutoff lever is up, the shutoff isn't the problem. Check the condition of the suction side fuel lines, especially the short ones on the fuel thermostat -- if cracked and wet with fuel, they are leaking and you are pulling air into the IP and it won't deliver fuel or start. Disconnect the pump return line from the main return and verify that you have sufficient fuel coming out -- the classic fuel problem on the 60x engines is to get a slug of air in the IP and have them refuse to start. It can take a couple battery charges to get them going again, and much longer if you have leaks on the suction side. You can cheat by temporarily hooking up a gravity feed system to the suction of the lift pump on the side of the IP so that you KNOW you have fuel supply to the lift pump, then crack the bolt on the main filter and pump till it no longer blows bubbles. You should then be pressurizing the IP, and need to crack all six injeciton lines, pump until the return shows no bubbles and the IP lines have all the air bleed out, and it will start. A bitch with no hand pump. However, if you CAN rig up a 20 psi or so pump to the suction line on the lift pump, it will blow through and you can bleed out the IP that way. Peter
