Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
I think USAA opened it up to spawn of spawn a number of years back. #1 boy has USAA CIC on his car and abode. Clay inter urinas et faeces nascimur > On May 13, 2023, at 8:31 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> not made available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents. > > Well, and _former_ dependents. At age 62, I'm not really dependent upon > anyone now... > > But, my son will have to find his own insurance I guess. > > -- Jim > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
> not made available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents. Well, and _former_ dependents. At age 62, I'm not really dependent upon anyone now... But, my son will have to find his own insurance I guess. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
None of my fleet is remotely new. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 5:27 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not sure how it would apply where you are but here, I know a fellow who > had a 2006 F150 Supercrew. He swapped it for a 2018 Ford Escape and his > insurance was about 50% higher on the newer vehicle. > > Randy > > > On 12/05/2023 4:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > 2014 E250 Bluetec sedan. Probably worth less due to the mileage. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
Not sure how it would apply where you are but here, I know a fellow who had a 2006 F150 Supercrew. He swapped it for a 2018 Ford Escape and his insurance was about 50% higher on the newer vehicle. Randy On 12/05/2023 4:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: 2014 E250 Bluetec sedan. Probably worth less due to the mileage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
I've had a few cars totaled by State Farm, and they always gave me what I thought was fair market value. My dad had a real battle with Allstate on the value of a car they wanted to total, but that was over 30 years ago now. He did finally get them to agree to pay for repairs. On Fri, May 12, 2023, at 15:37, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Have you gotten quotes from Hagerty? You might find them to be > surprisingly affordable, and the policy is a guaranteed value policy. > You’ve got to have a regular “daily driver” for every driver in the > household, which it sounds like you do, but otherwise your cars might > qualify. It’s often cheaper than a regular policy with collision and > comp, and it has a guaranteed value. A regular policy with collision > and comp would still mean a battle with the insurance company over the > vehicle’s value. > > -D > >> On May 12, 2023, at 4:33 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> That's why I carry liability only on my older cars. I haven't wanted to deal >> with the hassle of getting an "appraised value" policy and I know the >> standard market value of my cars is next to nothing and pretty much any >> accident would just get the car totaled, not repaired. >> >> If I ever get around to making my W123 or W116 really nice, I might look >> into it. >> >> >> On Fri, May 12, 2023, at 15:14, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >>> They told me over the phone the reason for the rate hike -- unrelated to >>> the choice of vehicles. BTW, the most valuable car in my garage is worth >>> maybe $14K on a good day. >>> >>> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:56 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> Not true, or so it would appear. At least not for the insurance business: "There was a period of time between September of 2009 and the Fall of 2013 that USAA did allow civilians to apply for restricted membership. They were allowed to use the investment services and many of the bank deposit services. The property and auto insurance products, however, were not made available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents.” -D > On May 12, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Plus they now seem to let any Tom Dick or Harry in which increased their liability > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. >> >> AZBob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are the members demanding higher dividends? >>> >>> If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going on. >>> >>> -D >>> > On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims at above average premiums. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
2014 E250 Bluetec sedan. Probably worth less due to the mileage. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 4:40 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > True. It used to be you had to be an officer in the military, now it’s > anyone in the military or their dependents. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 12, 2023, at 1:56 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Not true, or so it would appear. At least not for the insurance > business: > > > > "There was a period of time between September of 2009 and the Fall of > 2013 that USAA did allow civilians to apply for restricted membership. They > were allowed to use the investment services and many of the bank deposit > services. The property and auto insurance products, however, were not made > available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents.” > > > > -D > > > > > >> On May 12, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Plus they now seem to let any Tom Dick or Harry in which increased > their liability > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On May 12, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. > >>> > >>> AZBob > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are > the members demanding higher dividends? > > If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going > on. > > -D > > >> On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has > gone from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying > claims at above average premiums. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
True. It used to be you had to be an officer in the military, now it’s anyone in the military or their dependents. Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2023, at 1:56 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not true, or so it would appear. At least not for the insurance business: > > "There was a period of time between September of 2009 and the Fall of 2013 > that USAA did allow civilians to apply for restricted membership. They were > allowed to use the investment services and many of the bank deposit services. > The property and auto insurance products, however, were not made available to > anyone outside of the military or their dependents.” > > -D > > >> On May 12, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Plus they now seem to let any Tom Dick or Harry in which increased their >> liability >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On May 12, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. >>> >>> AZBob >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are the members demanding higher dividends? If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going on. -D >> On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes >> wrote: > > Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone > from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying > claims at above average premiums. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
Have you gotten quotes from Hagerty? You might find them to be surprisingly affordable, and the policy is a guaranteed value policy. You’ve got to have a regular “daily driver” for every driver in the household, which it sounds like you do, but otherwise your cars might qualify. It’s often cheaper than a regular policy with collision and comp, and it has a guaranteed value. A regular policy with collision and comp would still mean a battle with the insurance company over the vehicle’s value. -D > On May 12, 2023, at 4:33 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's why I carry liability only on my older cars. I haven't wanted to deal > with the hassle of getting an "appraised value" policy and I know the > standard market value of my cars is next to nothing and pretty much any > accident would just get the car totaled, not repaired. > > If I ever get around to making my W123 or W116 really nice, I might look into > it. > > > On Fri, May 12, 2023, at 15:14, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> They told me over the phone the reason for the rate hike -- unrelated to >> the choice of vehicles. BTW, the most valuable car in my garage is worth >> maybe $14K on a good day. >> >> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:56 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Not true, or so it would appear. At least not for the insurance business: >>> >>> "There was a period of time between September of 2009 and the Fall of 2013 >>> that USAA did allow civilians to apply for restricted membership. They were >>> allowed to use the investment services and many of the bank deposit >>> services. The property and auto insurance products, however, were not made >>> available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents.” >>> >>> -D >>> >>> On May 12, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Plus they now seem to let any Tom Dick or Harry in which increased their >>> liability Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are >>> the members demanding higher dividends? >> >> If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going >>> on. >> >> -D >> On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has >>> gone from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying >>> claims at above average premiums. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
That's why I carry liability only on my older cars. I haven't wanted to deal with the hassle of getting an "appraised value" policy and I know the standard market value of my cars is next to nothing and pretty much any accident would just get the car totaled, not repaired. If I ever get around to making my W123 or W116 really nice, I might look into it. On Fri, May 12, 2023, at 15:14, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > They told me over the phone the reason for the rate hike -- unrelated to > the choice of vehicles. BTW, the most valuable car in my garage is worth > maybe $14K on a good day. > > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:56 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Not true, or so it would appear. At least not for the insurance business: >> >> "There was a period of time between September of 2009 and the Fall of 2013 >> that USAA did allow civilians to apply for restricted membership. They were >> allowed to use the investment services and many of the bank deposit >> services. The property and auto insurance products, however, were not made >> available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents.” >> >> -D >> >> >> > On May 12, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > Plus they now seem to let any Tom Dick or Harry in which increased their >> liability >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On May 12, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. >> >> >> >> AZBob >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are >> the members demanding higher dividends? >> >>> >> >>> If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going >> on. >> >>> >> >>> -D >> >>> >> > On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has >> gone from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying >> claims at above average premiums. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >>> >> >>> ___ >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>> >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
On 2023-05-12 14:15, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. Increasing marketing costs, increasing executive compensation... Like the United Way, 'not for profit' doesn't mean the employees can't make a profit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
And that was? -D On May 12, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote: They told me over the phone the reason for the rate hike -- unrelated to the choice of vehicles. BTW, the most valuable car in my garage is worth maybe $14K on a good day. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
They told me over the phone the reason for the rate hike -- unrelated to the choice of vehicles. BTW, the most valuable car in my garage is worth maybe $14K on a good day. On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:56 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not true, or so it would appear. At least not for the insurance business: > > "There was a period of time between September of 2009 and the Fall of 2013 > that USAA did allow civilians to apply for restricted membership. They were > allowed to use the investment services and many of the bank deposit > services. The property and auto insurance products, however, were not made > available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents.” > > -D > > > > On May 12, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Plus they now seem to let any Tom Dick or Harry in which increased their > liability > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 12, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. > >> > >> AZBob > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are > the members demanding higher dividends? > >>> > >>> If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going > on. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > > On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has > gone from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying > claims at above average premiums. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
Not true, or so it would appear. At least not for the insurance business: "There was a period of time between September of 2009 and the Fall of 2013 that USAA did allow civilians to apply for restricted membership. They were allowed to use the investment services and many of the bank deposit services. The property and auto insurance products, however, were not made available to anyone outside of the military or their dependents.” -D > On May 12, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Plus they now seem to let any Tom Dick or Harry in which increased their > liability > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. >> >> AZBob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are the >>> members demanding higher dividends? >>> >>> If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going on. >>> >>> -D >>> > On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims at above average premiums. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: USAA
No all the commercials with Rob Gronkowski. Mostly seen during NFL games or other sports events. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2022/09/23/Gronk-USAA-ads.aspx On Fri, May 12, 2023, at 13:17, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Sure you’re not thinking of the lizard? Or Flo? > > -D > >> On May 12, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. >> >> AZBob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are the >>> members demanding higher dividends? >>> >>> If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going on. >>> >>> -D >>> On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims at above average premiums. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Plus they now seem to let any Tom Dick or Harry in which increased their liability Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are the >> members demanding higher dividends? >> >> If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going on. >> >> -D >> On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone >>> from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims >>> at above average premiums. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sure you’re not thinking of the lizard? Or Flo? -D > On May 12, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are the >> members demanding higher dividends? >> >> If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going on. >> >> -D >> >>> On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone >>> from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims >>> at above average premiums. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They have to pay for all those commercials they run on TV. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2023, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are the > members demanding higher dividends? > > If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going on. > > -D > >> On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone >> from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims >> at above average premiums. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It’s a member-owned company, as I understand. Like stockholders, are the members demanding higher dividends? If it was a public company I could totally understand what was going on. -D > On May 12, 2023, at 12:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone from > great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims at > above average premiums. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Exactly Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2023, at 11:42 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone > from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims > at above average premiums. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Over the last ten years or more, I get the impression that USAA has gone from great service at bargain premiums to great resistance to paying claims at above average premiums. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 12/05/2023 11:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: My GEICO rates went up steeply despite no accidents. Turns out they really care more about speeding tickets when determining insurance rates... Is it possible that your rates went up because you acquired a newer and more valuable vehicle. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My GEICO rates went up steeply despite no accidents. Turns out they really care more about speeding tickets when determining insurance rates... On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 9:31 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have been procrastinating for a while about shopping around as both of > our houses have doubled in price over the last 3 years or so. Went from > about $1800 a year to almost $5k a year. Had to raise the deductible to > something like $6k just to keep it around $4k a year. I did shop around a > while back and found I could save a significant amount on the houses, and > the cars could be covered full coverage for less than I am paying USAA for > liability. I need to get back on this. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 12, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I know a bunch of you guys are into USAA. Did you notice Wayne Peacock, > the CEO of USAA recently got himself a 157% raise to $4.8 million? > > > > He gets that while the company loses $1.3 BILLION bucks... > > > > Good job failing up Wayne... > > > > -Curt > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have been procrastinating for a while about shopping around as both of our houses have doubled in price over the last 3 years or so. Went from about $1800 a year to almost $5k a year. Had to raise the deductible to something like $6k just to keep it around $4k a year. I did shop around a while back and found I could save a significant amount on the houses, and the cars could be covered full coverage for less than I am paying USAA for liability. I need to get back on this. Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I know a bunch of you guys are into USAA. Did you notice Wayne Peacock, the > CEO of USAA recently got himself a 157% raise to $4.8 million? > > He gets that while the company loses $1.3 BILLION bucks... > > Good job failing up Wayne... > > -Curt > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
