Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:26:52 -0800 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This reminds me of an annoying habit of someone I know: they often
 stand right in front of the eye-level microwave and look at the
 cooking food. Then when they believe it's done, they simply open the
 door - no shutting the thing off first.
 
 I shut it off and wait for a few seconds before opening the door, and
 if time allows, I open it and walk away and do something else for a
 few seconds. Ok I am starting to sound paranoid now.

Yes.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread OK Don
  This reminds me of an annoying habit of someone I know: they often
  stand right in front of the eye-level microwave and look at the
  cooking food. Then when they believe it's done, they simply open the
  door - no shutting the thing off first.
 
  I shut it off and wait for a few seconds before opening the door, and
  if time allows, I open it and walk away and do something else for a
  few seconds. Ok I am starting to sound paranoid now.

 Yes.


 Craig

Those are very high frequency (therefore very short [micro] wave
length) radio waves. They are bouncing around inside that metal box at
nearly the speed of light, being absorbed by whatever is in there
getting heated up. It doesn't take them very long to finish bouncing
around and get absorbed after the power is turned off, which opening
the door does. Nuking the food is a gross miss use of terms ond
concepts, unless limited to expressing high tech.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Rich Thomas
Those are nuking at 2450 MHz, where water is really really good at 
absorbing that freq.  Notice that freq is in an unlicensed band.  Notice 
also all the gadgets that use that same freq to broadcast their waves, 
and then think about that! 

What are you made of?

--R

OK Don wrote:
 Those are very high frequency (therefore very short [micro] wave
 length) radio waves. They are bouncing around inside that metal box at
 nearly the speed of light, being absorbed by whatever is in there
 getting heated up. It doesn't take them very long to finish bouncing
 around and get absorbed after the power is turned off, which opening
 the door does. Nuking the food is a gross miss use of terms ond
 concepts, unless limited to expressing high tech.

   
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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread OK Don
And, expanding on Glen's comment, the new digital sensors are even
more sensitive.

Then, there's the recent article in Der Spiegel -
A mounting number of studies are coming to some surprising
conclusions about the dangers of nuclear radiation. It might not be as
deadly as is widely believed.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,519043,00.html
Since the sources aren't given, I won't vouch for the accuracy, but it
does raise questions.

On Nov 30, 2007 3:03 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Expanding a bit on OK Don's recent post regarding  . . . x-rays use much
 less radiation, the exposure level required has reduced as well due to
 photographic film advances as I was privy to one of these during my career
 in EK research.

 G. M. Brown
 Brevard, NC

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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote:
 
 
 I think you just dated yourself ;)

He was a boy in West Virginia in 1981?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread John Robbins
Rich Thomas wrote:
 Speaking of X-rays, when I was a kid the shoe store had an Xray machine 
 you could see how the shoe looked on your foot!  I wanted to try it once 
 but my mother wouldn't let me.  I thought it was way cool.

Like these?  I wonder if something like this with modern tech (lower 
exposure needed for the cameras, etc) would be possible.  It is 
definitely cool!

http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htm
http://www.museumofquackery.com/devices/shoexray.htm

I think you just dated yourself ;)

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Rich Thomas
People in developed countries have had their lifespans increase a lot 
over the last 50-100 years, despite all the scares about this that and 
the other thing (coffee good!  ooops no coffee bad!, well, a little is 
OK!).  Since people aren't generally dying now from 
preventable/curable/treatable diseases, now the third or fourth-order 
things become issues.  Eat well, exercise, go to the doc occasionally, 
brush your teeth, get vaccinations, have a beer or wine, don't smoke, 
stay away from crazies, don't do stupid things, and you will very likely 
live a long full happy life, and live long enough for the old age things 
finally to kill you, at 100+.  Some won't; many will.

Speaking of X-rays, when I was a kid the shoe store had an Xray machine 
you could see how the shoe looked on your foot!  I wanted to try it once 
but my mother wouldn't let me.  I thought it was way cool.

Aura mediocritas!

--R

Zoltan Finks wrote:
 I don't know what I believe. As always, this is why I put the question
 out there.

 I'm glad for your health success. Best to you.

 Brian

   
   

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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Tom Hargrave
I remember when my Uncle bought one of the first 21 color TVs. It was a
RCA.

4 months later they recalled the set, installed a piece of heavy leaded
glass in front of the tube  applied a label right under the tube that
stated (from memory) Never sit closer than 4 feet and never sit further
out than 45 degrees from center when watching this television set.

X-rays? Less Radiation? X-rays are a form of radiation!

But then so are light, heat (infra red), radio signals, cell phone
signals. The difference is the type of radiation.

Tom
www.kegkits.com
 
Original Message
From: Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/30/07 03:04 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Expanding a bit on OK Don's recent post regarding  . . . x-rays use
much
less radiation, the exposure level required has reduced as well due to
photographic film advances as I was privy to one of these during my
career
in EK research.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
I don't know what I believe. As always, this is why I put the question
out there.

I'm glad for your health success. Best to you.

Brian

On 11/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Benifit FAR out weighs the risk.

 If you do not believe this, fine.

 Pete, who's life has been enhanced if not saved by diagnostic x-ray.

 -- Original message --
 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  How can it harmful yet the fear of it be unfounded or foolhardy?
 
  I cross the sreet only when necessary.
 
  Brian
 
  On 11/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Diagnostic X-Rays are harmful
   Crossing the Street is Dangerous
  
   Unfounded fear of either is foolhardy.
  
  
  
   --
  
   Regards,
  
   Peter T. Arnold
  
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   1987 300SDL 286 KMI Relocated to Cleveland, home of RR
   1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi
   1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
   Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
   is!
  
  
  
  
   On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:10:46 -0800, you wrote:
  
   Wow, this is the first actual acknowledgement I have heard that x-rays
   are potentially dangerous. Every doc and dentist I go to absolutely
   downplays and poo-poos my questions regarding the topic. I had a
   dentist tell me that we are exposed to more radiation by flying in an
   airplane than we are from an x-ray.
   
   When the dentist I started going to insisted (not asked) that they
   were going to x-ray me every other visit, I refused and stopped going
   to them. They did get an x-ray out of me though, and when I asked why
   they didn't give me the lead vest, they said that the state of
   Minnesota no longer required them.
   
   And when I had a wisdom tooth pulled recently, the Mayo Clinic tried
   twice to get an x-ray simply because they couldn't find the one my
   dentist sent them.
   
   X-ray happy.
   
   Brian
   
   Larry wrote;
   Yep, there is much concern in some quarters about the amount of 
   radiation we
   receive each time we get a chest X Ray - a typical component of a yearly
   physical. And I hear radiation is cummulative - it builds with each
   exposure so a 10 year exposure is 1 xray times 10. Amd being aimed at the
   important heart  lungs makes is especially worrisome.
   
   I have a report around here somewhere written by a doctor a year or 2 
   ago -
   will try to find it. We're really pretty fragile beings -
   
   Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
   
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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Timothy Robinson
I was wondering when someone would recall those shoe fitting fluoroscopes.
The had three viewing ports, one for child, one for mom and one for the shoe
salesman. 

Heck, I learned to crawl as a baby 'cause I was jonesin' for perogoric.
Family doctor once recommended menthol cigarettes to help with congestion. I
remember my mom going to the druggist and asking for a package of Kools
menthol.

 on 11/30/07 5:06 PM, Rich Thomas at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 People in developed countries have had their lifespans increase a lot
 over the last 50-100 years, despite all the scares about this that and
 the other thing (coffee good!  ooops no coffee bad!, well, a little is
 OK!).  Since people aren't generally dying now from
 preventable/curable/treatable diseases, now the third or fourth-order
 things become issues.  Eat well, exercise, go to the doc occasionally,
 brush your teeth, get vaccinations, have a beer or wine, don't smoke,
 stay away from crazies, don't do stupid things, and you will very likely
 live a long full happy life, and live long enough for the old age things
 finally to kill you, at 100+.  Some won't; many will.
 
 Speaking of X-rays, when I was a kid the shoe store had an Xray machine
 you could see how the shoe looked on your foot!  I wanted to try it once
 but my mother wouldn't let me.  I thought it was way cool.
 
 Aura mediocritas!
 
 --R
 
 Zoltan Finks wrote:
 I don't know what I believe. As always, this is why I put the question
 out there.
 
 I'm glad for your health success. Best to you.
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread pm7088
Benifit FAR out weighs the risk.

If you do not believe this, fine.

Pete, who's life has been enhanced if not saved by diagnostic x-ray.

-- Original message -- 
From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 How can it harmful yet the fear of it be unfounded or foolhardy? 
 
 I cross the sreet only when necessary. 
 
 Brian 
 
 On 11/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Diagnostic X-Rays are harmful 
  Crossing the Street is Dangerous 
  
  Unfounded fear of either is foolhardy. 
  
  
  
  -- 
  
  Regards, 
  
  Peter T. Arnold 
  
  2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 
  1987 300SDL 286 KMI Relocated to Cleveland, home of RR 
  1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 
  1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen 
  Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that 
  is! 
  
  
  
  
  On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:10:46 -0800, you wrote: 
  
  Wow, this is the first actual acknowledgement I have heard that x-rays 
  are potentially dangerous. Every doc and dentist I go to absolutely 
  downplays and poo-poos my questions regarding the topic. I had a 
  dentist tell me that we are exposed to more radiation by flying in an 
  airplane than we are from an x-ray. 
   
  When the dentist I started going to insisted (not asked) that they 
  were going to x-ray me every other visit, I refused and stopped going 
  to them. They did get an x-ray out of me though, and when I asked why 
  they didn't give me the lead vest, they said that the state of 
  Minnesota no longer required them. 
   
  And when I had a wisdom tooth pulled recently, the Mayo Clinic tried 
  twice to get an x-ray simply because they couldn't find the one my 
  dentist sent them. 
   
  X-ray happy. 
   
  Brian 
   
  Larry wrote; 
  Yep, there is much concern in some quarters about the amount of radiation 
  we 
  receive each time we get a chest X Ray - a typical component of a yearly 
  physical. And I hear radiation is cummulative - it builds with each 
  exposure so a 10 year exposure is 1 xray times 10. Amd being aimed at the 
  important heart  lungs makes is especially worrisome. 
   
  I have a report around here somewhere written by a doctor a year or 2 ago 
  - 
  will try to find it. We're really pretty fragile beings - 
   
  Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) 
   
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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
How can it harmful yet the fear of it be unfounded or foolhardy?

I cross the sreet only when necessary.

Brian

On 11/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Diagnostic X-Rays are harmful
 Crossing the Street is Dangerous

 Unfounded fear of either is foolhardy.



 --

 Regards,

 Peter T. Arnold

 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems!
 1987 300SDL  286 KMI  Relocated to Cleveland, home of RR
 1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
 Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
 is!




 On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:10:46 -0800, you wrote:

 Wow, this is the first actual acknowledgement I have heard that x-rays
 are potentially dangerous. Every doc and dentist I go to absolutely
 downplays and poo-poos my questions regarding the topic. I had a
 dentist tell me that we are exposed to more radiation by flying in an
 airplane than we are from an x-ray.
 
 When the dentist I started going to insisted (not asked) that they
 were going to x-ray me every other visit, I refused and stopped going
 to them. They did get an x-ray out of me though, and when I asked why
 they didn't give me the lead vest, they said that the state of
 Minnesota no longer required them.
 
 And when I had a wisdom tooth pulled recently, the Mayo Clinic tried
 twice to get an x-ray simply because they couldn't find the one my
 dentist sent them.
 
 X-ray happy.
 
 Brian
 
 Larry wrote;
 Yep, there is much concern in some quarters about the amount of radiation we
 receive each time we get a chest X Ray - a typical component of a yearly
 physical.   And I hear radiation is cummulative - it builds with each
 exposure so a 10 year exposure is 1 xray times 10.  Amd being aimed at the
 important heart  lungs makes is especially worrisome.
 
 I have a report around here somewhere written by a doctor a year or 2 ago -
 will try to find it.  We're really pretty fragile beings -
 
 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread pm7088
Diagnostic X-Rays are harmful
Crossing the Street is Dangerous

Unfounded fear of either is foolhardy.



--

Regards,

Peter T. Arnold

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1987 300SDL  286 KMI  Relocated to Cleveland, home of RR
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1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
is!




On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:10:46 -0800, you wrote:

Wow, this is the first actual acknowledgement I have heard that x-rays
are potentially dangerous. Every doc and dentist I go to absolutely
downplays and poo-poos my questions regarding the topic. I had a
dentist tell me that we are exposed to more radiation by flying in an
airplane than we are from an x-ray.

When the dentist I started going to insisted (not asked) that they
were going to x-ray me every other visit, I refused and stopped going
to them. They did get an x-ray out of me though, and when I asked why
they didn't give me the lead vest, they said that the state of
Minnesota no longer required them.

And when I had a wisdom tooth pulled recently, the Mayo Clinic tried
twice to get an x-ray simply because they couldn't find the one my
dentist sent them.

X-ray happy.

Brian

Larry wrote;
Yep, there is much concern in some quarters about the amount of radiation we
receive each time we get a chest X Ray - a typical component of a yearly
physical.   And I hear radiation is cummulative - it builds with each
exposure so a 10 year exposure is 1 xray times 10.  Amd being aimed at the
important heart  lungs makes is especially worrisome.

I have a report around here somewhere written by a doctor a year or 2 ago -
will try to find it.  We're really pretty fragile beings -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread John Robbins
Mitch Haley wrote:
 John Robbins wrote:

 I think you just dated yourself ;)
 
 He was a boy in West Virginia in 1981?

Ha!  That could very well be the case ;)  It was only one machine though!


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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread OK Don
It's all a matter of managing risk.

Dental x-rays use much less radiation than they did 30 years ago.
There are new, faster, whole body 3-D scans that now use more
radiation than the older methods -- you can't lump all diagnostic
x-rays into one bucket and make blanket statements about safety, or
the lack there-of.

On Nov 30, 2007 4:59 AM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can it harmful yet the fear of it be unfounded or foolhardy?

 I cross the sreet only when necessary.

 Brian


 On 11/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Diagnostic X-Rays are harmful
  Crossing the Street is Dangerous
 
  Unfounded fear of either is foolhardy.
 
 
 
  --
 
  Regards,
 
  Peter T. Arnold
 
  2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems!
  1987 300SDL  286 KMI  Relocated to Cleveland, home of RR
  1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
  1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
  Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
  is!
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:10:46 -0800, you wrote:
 
  Wow, this is the first actual acknowledgement I have heard that x-rays
  are potentially dangerous. Every doc and dentist I go to absolutely
  downplays and poo-poos my questions regarding the topic. I had a
  dentist tell me that we are exposed to more radiation by flying in an
  airplane than we are from an x-ray.
  
  When the dentist I started going to insisted (not asked) that they
  were going to x-ray me every other visit, I refused and stopped going
  to them. They did get an x-ray out of me though, and when I asked why
  they didn't give me the lead vest, they said that the state of
  Minnesota no longer required them.
  
  And when I had a wisdom tooth pulled recently, the Mayo Clinic tried
  twice to get an x-ray simply because they couldn't find the one my
  dentist sent them.
  
  X-ray happy.
  
  Brian
  
  Larry wrote;
  Yep, there is much concern in some quarters about the amount of radiation 
  we
  receive each time we get a chest X Ray - a typical component of a yearly
  physical.   And I hear radiation is cummulative - it builds with each
  exposure so a 10 year exposure is 1 xray times 10.  Amd being aimed at the
  important heart  lungs makes is especially worrisome.
  
  I have a report around here somewhere written by a doctor a year or 2 ago -
  will try to find it.  We're really pretty fragile beings -
  
  Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays

2007-11-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
This reminds me of an annoying habit of someone I know: they often
stand right in front of the eye-level microwave and look at the
cooking food. Then when they believe it's done, they simply open the
door - no shutting the thing off first.

I shut it off and wait for a few seconds before opening the door, and
if time allows, I open it and walk away and do something else for a
few seconds. Ok I am starting to sound paranoid now.

Brian

On 11/30/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I remember when my Uncle bought one of the first 21 color TVs. It was a
 RCA.

 4 months later they recalled the set, installed a piece of heavy leaded
 glass in front of the tube  applied a label right under the tube that
 stated (from memory) Never sit closer than 4 feet and never sit further
 out than 45 degrees from center when watching this television set.

 X-rays? Less Radiation? X-rays are a form of radiation!

 But then so are light, heat (infra red), radio signals, cell phone
 signals. The difference is the type of radiation.

 Tom
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 Original Message
 From: Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11/30/07 03:04 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Safety of X-rays
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 Expanding a bit on OK Don's recent post regarding  . . . x-rays use
 much
 less radiation, the exposure level required has reduced as well due to
 photographic film advances as I was privy to one of these during my
 career
 in EK research.

 G. M. Brown
 Brevard, NC
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