Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

2020-05-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
We have a local dairy here that sells whole raw milk to the public. I’m sure the laws are different here maybe. Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I like how our local dairies sell whole raw milk for “pet consumption”. Only > legal way

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2020-05-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I like how our local dairies sell whole raw milk for “pet consumption”. Only legal way they can sell the stuff. -D > On May 17, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Local family dairy. Before the milk industry forced them to co-mingle and > purchase back milk for home delivery.

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2020-05-17 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Local family dairy. Before the milk industry forced them to co-mingle and purchase back milk for home delivery. Good, clean, muddy cows from out in the fields. Also just around the time the enviro-weirdness settled in. Vegan store at the time was about the size of a one car garage. May

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2020-05-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Jeopardy: "We've had one of these scoops that has some sort of mystery juice inside of it for years." Answer: What is Prestone antifreeze On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 8:31 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Also, propane-powered refrigerators (RV's, etc.) use an >

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2020-05-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Also, propane-powered refrigerators (RV's, etc.) use an ammonia/water/hydrogen mix as the refrigerant. The one in my parents' camper failed. An overstuffed freezer was thought to be the cause. Apparently pounding on the coils with 1# hammers while running down bumpy roads is not good for

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2020-05-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Artisanal, grass fed, free range, antibiotic free ice cream? We've had one of these scoops that has some sort of mystery juice inside of it for years. It cuts through the hardest ice cream like buttah. All sorts of warnings about not putting it in hot water or the dishwasher. Maybe it would

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2020-05-15 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I used to work at a bespoke ice creamery about 40 years ago. NO, not 31 flavors. I produced five gallon batches of fancy fluff, 20 gallons each day. When the pretty young thing at the counter had break, I was the scoop guy. The metal scoops lived in a warm water bath. We were driven out of

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2020-05-15 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I do not know the physics, just that for the past 25 years the stuff lived in the door shelf. New fridge at the time. May coincide with the reduction in size of the container from a REAL half gallon to the current fluff. Also change to a more aerated formulation? The freezer my mother has

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2020-05-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:35:53 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > > > Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing > > it. The margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend > > a penny without justifying it. > >

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2020-05-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I remember those well. Usually on the roof of the store in the back. Architects used to like to put the generators in those equipment rooms, too. Lousy place to work. Next best place was on the side of the loading dock, typically near the bailer used for the waste cardboard. Stop in to

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2020-05-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 15 May 2020 11:48:02 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Grocery stores have a whole “compressor room” > As we called it. It’s a big room with all of the compressors for all > the different units in one place. It sounds like the engine room of a > ship when you are in there. Each

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2020-05-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. The > margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend a penny without > justifying it. Probably the reduced heat output of the lights is the biggest thing, along with

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2020-05-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 15 May 2020 12:20:21 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > When I worked at a food factory we had refrigeration that utilized > ammonia as the refrigerant. I believe they were at -20 f. It is quite > effective as a refrigerant, but for obvious reasons cannot be used in a > residential

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2020-05-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Oh I know all about grocery store margins. I was in that business for about 7-8 years. Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. > The margins in the grocery business

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2020-05-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 15 May 2020 08:38:47 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > The highest the temp goes in my kitchen freezer is 7 I believe. It is a > French door with the freezer on bottom. What should the refrigerator > section be set on? 35 - 40F, depending upon how accurately your refrigerator

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2020-05-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. The margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend a penny without justifying it. My gun cabinet has an LED light in the top that’s operated by a motion sensor. Only bummer is that the delay is only about

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2020-05-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Peter wrote: >-40 would take a two-stage system using pentane >as the second coolant. >We had a -80 freezer at the hospital I worked in 40 >years ago. Big beast. >I'm pretty sure grocery store >freezers are -10 Freon single stage. When I worked at a food factory we had refrigeration that

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2020-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I suspect it makes a bigger deal in the off times where there are few people in the store. I put LED strip lights in my gun cabinet with a pressure switch so they come on when I open the door. Works sweet. -Curt On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:52:28 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

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2020-05-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much considering there are people walking by all the time. Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is >

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2020-05-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off. I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting?

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2020-05-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Grocery stores have a whole “compressor room” As we called it. It’s a big room with all of the compressors for all the different units in one place. It sounds like the engine room of a ship when you are in there. Each freezer or refrigerator case does not have a compressor at the unit like a

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2020-05-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive large compressors which use industrial cooling, gasses. Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant opening the large doors

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2020-05-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
-40 would take a two-stage system using pentane as the second coolant. We had a -80 freezer at the hospital I worked in 40 years ago. Big beast. I'm pretty sure grocery store freezers are -10 Freon single stage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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2020-05-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken thermometer. Please let us know what you learn and decide on. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is

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2020-05-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The highest the temp goes in my kitchen freezer is 7 I believe. It is a French door with the freezer on bottom. What should the refrigerator section be set on? Sent from my iPhone > On May 14, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 21:56:21 -0400 Meade Dillon

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2020-05-15 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too cold.  However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical that is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F will be acceptable to SWMBO. I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions

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2020-05-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a guessing contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic suggestions like you already have gotten?

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2020-05-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 14 May 2020 21:56:21 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Well SWMBO really likes to keep everything cold as possible so it lasts > longer. I guess I'll put the thermometer in the freezer and see what > temp we've got, than maybe bump that up. The temperature in your refrigerator's

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2020-05-14 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:58 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No, this is the age of instant gratification. Wait ten minutes for ice > cream? OK boomer. ;) > 1) Get metal ice cream scoop. 2) Put scoop into hot water a minute or two before scooping. 3) Scoop ice

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2020-05-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I gave it to my 13 yo daughter to research, she came up with a bunch of hogwash about this is unavoidable and caused the by heat / cool cycles as you take it out of the freezer and put it back in. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:12 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

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2020-05-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
No, this is the age of instant gratification. Wait ten minutes for ice cream? OK boomer. ;) - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:16 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Let it sit out for 10 -15 minutes before you intend to eat it? > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:12 PM Kaleb

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2020-05-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well SWMBO really likes to keep everything cold as possible so it lasts longer. I guess I'll put the thermometer in the freezer and see what temp we've got, than maybe bump that up. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <

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2020-05-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
And we are off... On 5/14/2020 7:29 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: Store it in the door, not the main box, unless you are Speaker of the House from the State of Kolifornia clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. On May 14, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

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2020-05-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
-40 is insanely cold. Home freezer should probably be 10-15 degrees. A deep-freeze for longer-term storage should be below zero. I've never seen one at -40. The chest freezer in my basement is at -5 right now. If ice cream is too hard, set freezer temp higher (warmer, less cold, however you want

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2020-05-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Let it sit out for 10 -15 minutes before you intend to eat it? On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:12 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That is a good question I have wondered about for my entire life. > > On 5/14/2020 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > Problem: ice

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2020-05-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That is a good question I have wondered about for my entire life. On 5/14/2020 6:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening.  How do I keep the ice cream from getting so hard? Max Dillon Charleston SC

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2020-05-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
What Clay said. Keep it in the door. My freezer actually has/had a compartment in the door to keep ice cream less cold. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

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2020-05-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet. Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper jelly? - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:40 PM Max Dillon wrote: > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep > the ice cream

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2020-05-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I can't manage that, so maybe call over the neighbors and friends to consume it all in one go. That will get expensive. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:43 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Eat it faster --- > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:41 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <

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2020-05-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
What's the proper temp? Last time I was at the grocery, I took a look and their ice cream was at -40 deg F. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:04 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Turn your freezer down? > > Our freezer in the fridge doesn’t

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2020-05-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
How does the door make a difference? Our freezer door shelves are too small anyway, so not really an option. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:30 PM Clay via Mercedes wrote: > Store it in the door, not the main box, unless you are Speaker of the > House from the State

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2020-05-14 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Store it in the door, not the main box, unless you are Speaker of the House from the State of Kolifornia clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On May 14, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How

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2020-05-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Turn your freezer down? Our freezer in the fridge doesn’t freeze it hard, but the upright freezer in the garage turns it into a rock. -D > On May 14, 2020, at 7:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep > the ice

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2020-05-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Eat it faster --- On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:41 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Problem: ice cream gets too hard after the initial opening. How do I keep > the ice cream from getting so hard? > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > ___