Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
Hans Neureiter wrote: I checked Coloper/Bussman's website. No such fuse, except GBF, which is only 21/32 long.. http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/11-14-automotive-fuses-and-kits/auto-fuse-german-glass-assortment-610730.aspx http://www.acehardware.com/sm-buss-fuses-german-fuse-kit-5-pack--pi-1291766.html But these fuses are NOT superior to the ceramic body fuses! In fact, the actual number of early spontaneous failures that I have seen has been a little higher (although the difference is NOT statistically significant). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
On Friday, January 27, 2006, at 08:08 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I checked Coloper/Bussman's website. No such fuse, except GBF, which is only 21/32 long.. Check Buss Fuses, the most common fuse in the USA. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
Marshall Booth wrote: Irrespective of what the fuses are made of, they become unreliable after about 10 years of use. It's the heating/cooling cycle that causes the fuses to fatigue. I've seen old European-style fuses where you could actually see the metal element sagging from this effect. One of my VWs had a few like that, including the wiper fuse. I didn't take the hint and replace it, and it promptly blew from old age on one dark, rainy night. I kind of like the glass-encased ones, not because of reliability, but because they're easier to install (the non-glass ones come apart if you're not careful) and because they're less likely to burn my fingers if a short causes them to blow immediately when they're inserted. Both kinds seem inferior to the American, blade-style fuses.
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
Typo. Should be Cooper/Bussman, which is Buss Fuses. On 1/27/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2006, at 08:08 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I checked Coloper/Bussman's website. No such fuse, except GBF, which is only 21/32 long.. Check Buss Fuses, the most common fuse in the USA. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
I get them in Washington for around $1 per Gross. PnP On Friday, January 27, 2006, at 06:31 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote: Fuses, is that the guy from Washington? Mercedessource.com. It's not a bogus claim, but Rusty can get you fuses MUCH cheaper. I know this for a fact. ~ ~Thank you to everyone for suggestions about PM on my new car. ~ ~ ~ ~I forgot about front wheel bearings. They were replaced (?) less than ~10,000 miles ago. I looked at the receipt from the previous owner. He ~went to the dealer complaining about an overheating right brake. You ~should see the list of parts they put on it - including calipers, brake ~hoses, assorted brackets, and front wheel bearings. Why would the wheel ~bearings have to be replaced? Isn't that unusual? ~ ~ ~ ~From all the suggestions - I did figure out a few things I need to do. ~Replace ALL FUSES and service rear diff. ~ ~ ~ ~There is a guy on ebay selling complete fuse packs for Mercedes. He ~says his fuses are all brass rather than aluminum. Is this a bogus ~claim of superiority. I haven't looked at my fuses in a while, but I ~thought they about half of them were copper. What gives? ~ ~ ~ ~Donald H. Snook ~ ~1990 300SEL ~ ~___ ~http://www.striplin.net ~For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ ~For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: ~http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
redghost wrote: I get them in Washington for around $1 per Gross. PnP On Friday, January 27, 2006, at 06:31 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote: Fuses, is that the guy from Washington? Mercedessource.com. It's not a bogus claim, but Rusty can get you fuses MUCH cheaper. I know this for a fact. ~ ~Thank you to everyone for suggestions about PM on my new car. ~ ~ ~ ~I forgot about front wheel bearings. They were replaced (?) less than ~10,000 miles ago. I looked at the receipt from the previous owner. He ~went to the dealer complaining about an overheating right brake. You ~should see the list of parts they put on it - including calipers, brake ~hoses, assorted brackets, and front wheel bearings. Why would the wheel ~bearings have to be replaced? Isn't that unusual? ~ ~ ~ ~From all the suggestions - I did figure out a few things I need to do. ~Replace ALL FUSES and service rear diff. ~ ~ ~ ~There is a guy on ebay selling complete fuse packs for Mercedes. He ~says his fuses are all brass rather than aluminum. Is this a bogus ~claim of superiority. I haven't looked at my fuses in a while, but I ~thought they about half of them were copper. What gives? ~ ~ ~ ~Donald H. Snook ~ ~1990 300SEL ~ ~___ ~http://www.striplin.net ~For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ ~For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: ~http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
Thank you to everyone for suggestions about PM on my new car. I forgot about front wheel bearings. They were replaced (?) less than 10,000 miles ago. I looked at the receipt from the previous owner. He went to the dealer complaining about an overheating right brake. You should see the list of parts they put on it - including calipers, brake hoses, assorted brackets, and front wheel bearings. Why would the wheel bearings have to be replaced? Isn't that unusual? From all the suggestions - I did figure out a few things I need to do. Replace ALL FUSES and service rear diff. There is a guy on ebay selling complete fuse packs for Mercedes. He says his fuses are all brass rather than aluminum. Is this a bogus claim of superiority. I haven't looked at my fuses in a while, but I thought they about half of them were copper. What gives? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
Fuses, is that the guy from Washington? Mercedessource.com. It's not a bogus claim, but Rusty can get you fuses MUCH cheaper. I know this for a fact. ~ ~Thank you to everyone for suggestions about PM on my new car. ~ ~ ~ ~I forgot about front wheel bearings. They were replaced (?) less than ~10,000 miles ago. I looked at the receipt from the previous owner. He ~went to the dealer complaining about an overheating right brake. You ~should see the list of parts they put on it - including calipers, brake ~hoses, assorted brackets, and front wheel bearings. Why would the wheel ~bearings have to be replaced? Isn't that unusual? ~ ~ ~ ~From all the suggestions - I did figure out a few things I need to do. ~Replace ALL FUSES and service rear diff. ~ ~ ~ ~There is a guy on ebay selling complete fuse packs for Mercedes. He ~says his fuses are all brass rather than aluminum. Is this a bogus ~claim of superiority. I haven't looked at my fuses in a while, but I ~thought they about half of them were copper. What gives? ~ ~ ~ ~Donald H. Snook ~ ~1990 300SEL ~ ~___ ~http://www.striplin.net ~For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ ~For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: ~http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
A few things we have not mentioned yet: the accessory drive belt and tensioner, wipers, battery, exhaust mounting, shift linkage, driveshaft steady bearing, and U-joints. A lot of this is a visual inspection, but that is PM too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings Thank you to everyone for suggestions about PM on my new car. I forgot about front wheel bearings. They were replaced (?) less than 10,000 miles ago. I looked at the receipt from the previous owner. He went to the dealer complaining about an overheating right brake. You should see the list of parts they put on it - including calipers, brake hoses, assorted brackets, and front wheel bearings. Why would the wheel bearings have to be replaced? Isn't that unusual? From all the suggestions - I did figure out a few things I need to do. Replace ALL FUSES and service rear diff. There is a guy on ebay selling complete fuse packs for Mercedes. He says his fuses are all brass rather than aluminum. Is this a bogus claim of superiority. I haven't looked at my fuses in a while, but I thought they about half of them were copper. What gives? Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
It's a fuse - it's a strip of metal designed to melt at a given current. Change in metal type would only change the thickness of metal used. I don't think it really matters what the metal is, so long as it works. New fuses are better than old ones though, because they get dirty and don't conduct as well, blah blah blah. On 1/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuses, is that the guy from Washington? Mercedessource.com. It's not a bogus claim, but Rusty can get you fuses MUCH cheaper. I know this for a fact. ~ ~Thank you to everyone for suggestions about PM on my new car. ~ ~ ~ ~I forgot about front wheel bearings. They were replaced (?) less than ~10,000 miles ago. I looked at the receipt from the previous owner. He ~went to the dealer complaining about an overheating right brake. You ~should see the list of parts they put on it - including calipers, brake ~hoses, assorted brackets, and front wheel bearings. Why would the wheel ~bearings have to be replaced? Isn't that unusual? ~ ~ ~ ~From all the suggestions - I did figure out a few things I need to do. ~Replace ALL FUSES and service rear diff. ~ ~ ~ ~There is a guy on ebay selling complete fuse packs for Mercedes. He ~says his fuses are all brass rather than aluminum. Is this a bogus ~claim of superiority. I haven't looked at my fuses in a while, but I ~thought they about half of them were copper. What gives? ~ ~ ~ ~Donald H. Snook ~ ~1990 300SEL ~ ~___ ~http://www.striplin.net ~For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ ~For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: ~http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
Sunil Hari wrote: It's a fuse - it's a strip of metal designed to melt at a given current. Change in metal type would only change the thickness of metal used. I don't think it really matters what the metal is, so long as it works. New fuses are better than old ones though, because they get dirty and don't conduct as well, blah blah blah. I've never seen a copper fuse that looked OK but didn't pass current and then fell apart when I removed it. I have seen aluminum fuses do that.
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
should see the list of parts they put on it - including calipers, brake hoses, assorted brackets, and front wheel bearings. Why would the wheel bearings have to be replaced? Isn't that unusual? If they replaced the rotor they were already all the way there to the bearings. They may have looked not-so-good, or he may have (directly or indirectly) told them to make it new. Or the heat from the dragging brake ruined the seals and/or lube. There is a guy on ebay selling complete fuse packs for Mercedes. He says his fuses are all brass rather than aluminum. Is this a bogus claim of superiority. I haven't looked at my fuses in a while, but I thought they about half of them were copper. What gives? The aluminum (?) ones 'rot', in that with time some kind of corrosion or mechanical failure causes them to crystallize and get flakey. It is the main reason behind the replace all the fuses mantra. The brass ones last longer without trouble, that's all. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
dissimilar metal corrosion http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=dissimilar+metal+corrosion ~ ~The aluminum (?) ones 'rot', in that with time some kind of corrosion ~or mechanical failure causes them to crystallize and get flakey. It ~is the main reason behind the replace all the fuses mantra. ~The brass ones last longer without trouble, that's all. ~ ~-- Jim ~ ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
On Friday, January 27, 2006, at 09:49 AM, Sunil Hari wrote: t's a fuse - it's a strip of metal designed to melt at a given current. Change in metal type would only change the thickness of metal used. I don't think it really matters what the metal is, so long as it works. New fuses are better than old ones though, because they get dirty and don't conduct as well, blah blah blah. There is something to be said about dissimilar metals and corrosion too. I buy huge bulk packs of fuses w/copper/brass because they don't corrode as fast. I have seen others burn out out the end or just rot a circle at the tip, at first look they seem fine. This I have never seen with the Pudenz Wickman -Gruppe brand that I insist on. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
I have one fuse in my hands that is a glass fuse, similar to a Buzz, but the ends are cone shaped, rather than flat. Fits perfectly the MB fuse holders. The only marking on it is the Amp rating. I wish I could locate a source for these. _ __ _ I_I__ I_I SS Glass SS -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
On Friday, January 27, 2006, at 01:10 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I have one fuse in my hands that is a glass fuse, similar to a Buzz, but the ends are cone shaped, rather than flat. Fits perfectly the MB fuse holders. The only marking on it is the Amp rating. I wish I could locate a source for these. Buss and Little Fuse both make them, could be others too. I believe they are designated as GBC with the amperage stamped on them. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
GBC means German/British Ceramic, just like original MB fuses. http://www.kenselectronics.com/lists/fuses.htm On 1/27/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2006, at 01:10 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: I have one fuse in my hands that is a glass fuse, similar to a Buzz, but the ends are cone shaped, rather than flat. Fits perfectly the MB fuse holders. The only marking on it is the Amp rating. I wish I could locate a source for these. Buss and Little Fuse both make them, could be others too. I believe they are designated as GBC with the amperage stamped on them. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
Donald Snook wrote: From all the suggestions - I did figure out a few things I need to do. Replace ALL FUSES and service rear diff. There is a guy on ebay selling complete fuse packs for Mercedes. He says his fuses are all brass rather than aluminum. Is this a bogus claim of superiority. I haven't looked at my fuses in a while, but I thought they about half of them were copper. What gives? Irrespective of what the fuses are made of, they become unreliable after about 10 years of use. It's the heating/cooling cycle that causes the fuses to fatigue. ANY fuse (made from any metal or with any body material - in a glass envelope or NOT) operated at much more than 50% of rating (Mercedes runs most of their fuses at about 75-90% of rating) will degrade with use as the metal crystallizes after enough cycles of approaching melting and then cooling off. The idea that copper fuses or fuses in glass envelopes last longer is flawed. ALL the fuses I've tried last about 10 years the way they are used in Mercedes. In medical and other critical applications, ALL fuses are routinely changed at 5 year intervals (or even more often especially if run VERY close to rated value). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] PM, fuses, and wheel bearings
Hans Neureiter wrote: I have one fuse in my hands that is a glass fuse, similar to a Buzz, but the ends are cone shaped, rather than flat. Fits perfectly the MB fuse holders. The only marking on it is the Amp rating. I wish I could locate a source for these. _ __ _ I_I__ I_I SS Glass SS Bussmann makes them - Advance Auto sells them (and I'm SURE there are other sources). They come in at least 8A, 16A and 25A sizes and assorted packages. In my experience and tests they are NOT more reliable than the ceramic body fuses (I have them in several of my cars - I've used them from time to time for about 7-8 years) and I DON'T care for them because the ratings are hard to read. I like having white, blue and red fuses rather than having to read little inscriptions on the metal tips (especially when it's raining, snowing or zero degrees outside). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
