Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
No, I have not. It probably should be required reading to qualify to vote in this past election, or any future election with a clinton/mezvinsky candidate. Scott Ritchey via Mercedes December 19, 2016 at 9:30 PM Maybe you read D'Douza's "Hillary's America" or

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2016-12-19 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Maybe you read D'Douza's "Hillary's America" or (saw the movie)? > -Original Message- > From: Curley McLain via Mercedes > > > > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > > I would consider this an attempt to shift blame: > > > > "The low-key approach of the F.B.I. meant that Russian

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2016-12-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: I would consider this an attempt to shift blame: "The low-key approach of the F.B.I. meant that Russian hackers could roam freely through the committee’s network for nearly seven months before top D.N.C. officials were alerted to the attack.." One thing

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2016-12-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I would consider this an attempt to shift blame: "The low-key approach of the F.B.I. meant that Russian hackers could roam freely through the committee’s network for nearly seven months before top D.N.C. officials were alerted to the attack.." > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes

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2016-12-18 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I did not see any attempt to shift blame to the FBI. That’s an awful stretch there. The DNC has no one to blame but themselves for allowing a crime to be committed against them. Second, I do not believe that Trump is ion league with the Russians. I didn’t get that from the article at all.

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2016-12-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Hear Here! Scott Ritchey via Mercedes December 18, 2016 at 5:21 PM No doubt the Russians (and others) spy on us with focus on current and future decision makers. Always have and always will. And the internet has provided a new (and relatively safe) domain for

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2016-12-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
No doubt the Russians (and others) spy on us with focus on current and future decision makers. Always have and always will. And the internet has provided a new (and relatively safe) domain for this work. But I doubt the Russians were trying to help Trump win. Considering that "everyone"

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2016-12-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
beats "election" by bombs and machine guns. Idi Amin, Basher asad, 'Dolfie, Stalin, mao...most "leaders" in the world history were "elected" by clubbing, stabbing, cutting, hacking, shooting or bombing other people until there was no more resistance. Our country, and a few others in the

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2016-12-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > It seems to me that the democrats would make more progress future elections > if they worked hard to fix the problems revealed by the hack, instead of > complaining about the hack. It is not a red/blue issue... or, is it? There are arguments about all phases of voting (electoral

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2016-12-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curt wrote: > Heck I met with the FBI once... Someone said that there are specific search formats to look at what FBI and others see about people. Does someone know specific search format for finding what is known? tin-man-mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

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2016-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Joe, beer me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_EmJHH78H8 > On December 18, 2016 at 3:55 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > There are plenty of videos about crazy uncle joe too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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2016-12-18 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Murders? > On Dec 18, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > You have got to be kidding! > > Nixon level screwup? > > Neither Nixon, nor the (E) (or is it Dumbo?) party did anything near the > level that the CCF, DNC and their acolytes did and

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2016-12-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
There are plenty of videos about crazy uncle joe too. Rick Knoble via Mercedes December 18, 2016 at 2:30 PM Joe Biden is who got shafted. Bernie would NOT have won. They would've made a commercial with BLM taking over the podium from him out in Seattle, then

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2016-12-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Curt sez: >‎if they'd left it alone Bernie probably >would have won... Joe Biden is who got shafted. Bernie would NOT have won. They would've made a commercial with BLM taking over the podium from him out in Seattle, then had the video of Put in laughing and Bernie would have gotten his ass

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2016-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You misunderstand, I should have said "Nixonian" meaning they cheated where if they hadn't cheated they'd have won. If Nixon hadn't covered up it would have been nothing. If Schultz and CO hadn't cheated Bernie out of the nomination he'd have mopped the floor with Trump. So they cheated

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2016-12-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You have got to be kidding! Nixon level screwup? Neither Nixon, nor the (E) (or is it Dumbo?) party did anything near the level that the CCF, DNC and their acolytes did and continue to do. Yes, the (E) party tried to gather some competitive intelligence using illegal means, but they were so

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2016-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh come now, that sounds sensible. I'm actually amazed, this is a Nixon level screw up, if they'd left it alone Bernie probably would have won... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: It seems to me

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2016-12-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
For the past 40 years, the political mantra of those who took power and privilege in both parties has been the "4 D Rule". "Deceive, Deny, Delay, Deflect." Apply that 4 D Rule while listening to any political hack and you will find one or more of those 4 elements being used. In the case of the

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
They did Julian assange said they only got 3 pages from the RNC. Obviously it was not big seal the the "media" would be all over it and we'd hear nothing else. MG via Mercedes wrote: How do we know they didn't try the same thing on the republicans and gave up because they couldn't find

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The crookedness is in the dna of the (D) party of the past 100+ years and the CCF. Max Dillon via Mercedes December 18, 2016 at 6:15 AM Exactly. Truth came out, it sank Hillary. Shame on her and the DNC for running such a crooked campaign.

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2016-12-18 Thread MG via Mercedes
Wait. I'm confused now. If our country does bad things to another country it's OK because it's foreign policy/relations, but if another country does similar types of bad things to our country it's not their foreign policy/relations it's a criminal act. Am I missing something here or is that

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 18, 2016 at 7:23 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > It seems to me that the democrats would make more progress future elections if > they worked hard to fix the problems revealed by the hack, instead of > complaining about the hack. Two tirades I

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2016-12-18 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
It seems to me that the democrats would make more progress future elections if they worked hard to fix the problems revealed by the hack, instead of complaining about the hack. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

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2016-12-18 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Exactly. Truth came out, it sank Hillary. Shame on her and the DNC for running such a crooked campaign. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 17, 2016 11:33:46 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > >> On December 17, 2016 at 9:08 PM Dimitri

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2016-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
s-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jon Agne Subject: Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails NOTE:  This is NOT a PARTISAN post. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc.ht

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2016-12-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On December 17, 2016 at 9:08 PM Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Of course I would. But I don't care about the fate of my "enemies". I wouldn't have cared if a government I really hated, like Iran, did it to Trump. If true facts come out about a politician that

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2016-12-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Or also foreign policy - ditto. On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 10:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > It's called foreign relations. You wouldn't understand. > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Bumster spent

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2016-12-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's called foreign relations. You wouldn't understand. On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Bumster spent millions of OUR money trying to keep BB from getting > re-elected. THAT IS TAMPERING with an election (by a (J) party member). >

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2016-12-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Bumster spent millions of OUR money trying to keep BB from getting re-elected. THAT IS TAMPERING with an election (by a (J) party member). Worse, it is tampering in e foreign election, and still worse, it is tampering in the election of our only ally in the region. Jon Agne via Mercedes

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2016-12-17 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
I'm saying that I don't care if my enemies get f***ed. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2016, at 9:15 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes > wrote: > > So the same laws wouldn’t apply to your enemies? Is that what you are saying? > > >> On Dec 17, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Dimitri via

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Thanks Jon. Say on. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4 matic Wickford RI On Dec 17, 2016 6:54 PM, "Jon Agne via Mercedes" wrote: > NOTE: This is NOT a PARTISAN post. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack- >

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2016-12-17 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
So the same laws wouldn’t apply to your enemies? Is that what you are saying? > On Dec 17, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > Of course I would. But I don't care about the fate of my "enemies". > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 17, 2016, at 8:52

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2016-12-17 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Of course I would. But I don't care about the fate of my "enemies". Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes > wrote: > > That’s exactly what I said….AFTER the fact. > > Seems like you have a double standard there. I bet you would care

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2016-12-17 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
That’s exactly what I said….AFTER the fact. Seems like you have a double standard there. I bet you would care if someone hacked your emails and financial records. Jon > On Dec 17, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hillary overtly criticized Putins

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-17 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Hillary overtly criticized Putins election causing massive protests against him. I think she was Secretary of State at the time. She played with fire and she got burned. Now I don't condone any foreign nation hacking into our systems or attempting to influence our election but I dislike her so

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-17 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Dimitri, The fact is that Clinton did say the the Russian elections were dishonest and unfair AFTER the fact. Can you point me to any source which says the US or the State Dept did anything covertly to undermine the election in Russia. I’d be willing to read it. As I mentioned earlier,

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-17 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Maybe the rooskies did it, maybe they didn't. I don't trust anything that the CIA or FBI puts forth. Bottom line, Hillary meddled in Putin's election and we all know that Putin is one dangerous badass motherf***er. When you mess with a dangerous badass motherf***er you get f***ed! This is not

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This is more malware and virus traffic, but any of these maps can give you an idea of the overwhelming amount of activity that’s taking place all over the world 24/7: http://controltrends.org/building-automation-and-integration/07/real-time-threat-maps/ Dan

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2016-12-17 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Says the state security expert, Curley. He must obviously have better sources that the CIA and FBI. Oh well. On Dec 17, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: We have no evidence the rooskies did it, and certainly none that the rooskie goobers did it.

Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails

2016-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
NO partisan here. As one of the people who is responsible for the security of the employees and systems of a medium-sized county government, I am amazed at how poorly organizations like the DNC and RNC handle their IT security. The RNC got hit, too, but they didn’t go for it. Despite the

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2016-12-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
+! Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes December 17, 2016 at 7:01 PM I'm pretty sure all of you on this list would not have made the mistake Podesta made. What I do is NEVER click on the helpful (?) email link provided in the email warning me of the problem, but go to

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2016-12-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
We have no evidence the rooskies did it, and certainly none that the rooskie goobers did it. Most of the hackers in the world use rooskie servers to cover their tracks. Julian said that the information was not provided by any "state" meaning goobermnt. My money is still on the young DNC

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2016-12-17 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jon Agne Subject: Re: [MBZ] Phishing emails NOTE: This is NOT a PARTISAN post. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc.html?emc

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2016-12-17 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I knew it would not take long. > On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Curse those Russians for digging up the truth and causing it to become common > knowledge? > Once upon a time, when we had journalists who weren't in bed with

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2016-12-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Curse those Russians for digging up the truth and causing it to become common knowledge? Once upon a time, when we had journalists who weren't in bed with politicians, we called that sort of work Journalism. Mitch. > On December 17, 2016 at 6:54 PM Jon Agne via Mercedes

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2016-12-17 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
NOTE: This is NOT a PARTISAN post. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/russia-hack-election-dnc.html?emc=edit_th_20161214=todaysheadlines=37044079 I’ve read