Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

2021-03-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
When you install the new drain plug, clean the threads in the pan [maybe
even a blast of brake cleaner] then coat the plug threads with Never Seize.
Next time you drain the oil, the plug will come out.
I've been doing that trick with steel drain plugs that go into aluminum
manual transmission cases for a long time with good success.

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> On 2021-03-13 19:41, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Nice. I have a set of those, I don't remember ever using them although
> > I must have bought them for some purpose...
>
> I bought Irwin sets of Metric and SAE when they were on sale at Advance
> and I had a $35 off on $85 coupon I wanted to use. Used them twice in
> about five years, they worked, and I had them handy, didn't have to go
> buy anything. Get more use out of the Gearwrench combination wrenches I
> bought that day, but when you need the extractors, you need them.
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

2021-03-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-03-13 19:41, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Nice. I have a set of those, I don't remember ever using them although
I must have bought them for some purpose...


I bought Irwin sets of Metric and SAE when they were on sale at Advance 
and I had a $35 off on $85 coupon I wanted to use. Used them twice in 
about five years, they worked, and I had them handy, didn't have to go 
buy anything. Get more use out of the Gearwrench combination wrenches I 
bought that day, but when you need the extractors, you need them.


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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

2021-03-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Great job


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Wickford RI

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> I tapped it firmly onto the rounded bolt head and then attached a ratchet
> to it and turned. It bit into the head of the bolt and broke it loose
> immediately. Very impressed.
>
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> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> >
> > How did you use it? Did you pound it on, or just twist it on?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 6:21 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I used an OEM brand extractor from Autozone and it worked like a champ!
> >> Thanks to all who suggested that approach. I’m a believer! New drain
> plug
> >> came from dealership- they had one in stock for $7.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

2021-03-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Nice. I have a set of those, I don't remember ever using them although I must 
have bought them for some purpose...
-Curt

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 wrote:  
 
 I used an OEM brand extractor from Autozone and it worked like a champ! Thanks 
to all who suggested that approach. I’m a believer! New drain plug came from 
dealership- they had one in stock for $7.



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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

2021-03-13 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I tapped it firmly onto the rounded bolt head and then attached a ratchet to it 
and turned. It bit into the head of the bolt and broke it loose immediately. 
Very impressed.

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> On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How did you use it? Did you pound it on, or just twist it on?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 6:21 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I used an OEM brand extractor from Autozone and it worked like a champ!
>> Thanks to all who suggested that approach. I’m a believer! New drain plug
>> came from dealership- they had one in stock for $7.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

2021-03-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Attaboy!

I (on the other hand) use a Topsider (it's actually an "oil boy") all the time. 
 When I had boats with inboard engines, a topsider-like device was the only 
sane way to change engine oil.  Once, very long ago, I drained it into the 
bilge and I'll never do that again.

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Subject: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

I used an OEM brand extractor from Autozone and it worked like a champ! Thanks 
to all who suggested that approach. I’m a believer! New drain plug came from 
dealership- they had one in stock for $7.



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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

2021-03-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
How did you use it? Did you pound it on, or just twist it on?
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> I used an OEM brand extractor from Autozone and it worked like a champ!
> Thanks to all who suggested that approach. I’m a believer! New drain plug
> came from dealership- they had one in stock for $7.
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug success!

2021-03-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Way to go Dimitri

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> I used an OEM brand extractor from Autozone and it worked like a champ!
> Thanks to all who suggested that approach. I’m a believer! New drain plug
> came from dealership- they had one in stock for $7.
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-03-12 18:08, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

I think I’m going to try that actually!


https://www.irwin.com/tools/screw-bolt-extractors/9-pc-fractional-bolt-extractor-set

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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I used a 5 gallon fuel can and an old house tank vacuum cleaner for a
make-shift "Topsider" that worked surprisingly well considering that the
plastic 5 gallon can collapsed under the leaky vacuum. The hand pumped
Topsider did not appeal to me, but you should be able to substitute an
electric suction source for the hand pump and make it work for you.

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> I’m not a huge fan of the topsider. I have one and the pump failed and I
> remember it taking forever to drain!
>
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> > On Mar 12, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't remember changing the oil from underneath in that car. I
> thought we
> > used a topsider.
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 5:45 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Buy a TopSider and never take the plug out again, that's what I've done.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I think I’m going to try that actually!

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> On Mar 12, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since the drain plug head is already destroyed, I'd try one of those
> sockets meant for removing rounded-off bolts. They have teeth that bite
> into the fastener, and I've had good luck with them. Available at Harbor
> Fright or probably any big box store.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D 
>> 2.5. It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I 
>> haven’t done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started 
>> wrenching on cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto it 
>> and hope for the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled with 
>> oil? I’ll be mig welding.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I thought of that too.

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> On Mar 12, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't think it likely that you will set the engine oil on fire in the 
> length of time it would take to weld something onto the plug. Why not use a 
> Nut rather than a socket. Just hold it up there with vice grips and weld in 
> the middle of the nut.
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 12/03/2021 10:22 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D 
>> 2.5. It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I 
>> haven’t done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started 
>> wrenching on cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto it 
>> and hope for the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled with 
>> oil? I’ll be mig welding.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yes

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> On Mar 12, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I suggest he wants to put a new plug in it in any event.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
>> On 12/03/2021 11:27 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>  LOL, this is the real answer. The MB is designed for it and IIRC several 
>> people have shown you get as much or more oil out going up as going down.
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, March 12, 2021, 12:22:34 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>Use a topsider??
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D
>>> 2.5. It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I
>>> haven’t done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started
>>> wrenching on cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto
>>> it and hope for the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled
>>> with oil? I’ll be mig welding.
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
The w124 diesels are a different animal from w123. Finned aluminum pan that is 
not straightforward to remove and probably expensive as hell.

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> On Mar 12, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why not replace the drain pan? I bought one for $28 IIRC.
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 12:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I suggest he wants to put a new plug in it in any event.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/03/2021 11:27 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>  LOL, this is the real answer. The MB is designed for it and IIRC
>> several people have shown you get as much or more oil out going up as going
>> down.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Friday, March 12, 2021, 12:22:34 PM EST, Dwight Giles via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Use a topsider??
>>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D
 2.5. It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I
 haven’t done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started
 wrenching on cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket
>> onto
 it and hope for the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled
 with oil? I’ll be mig welding.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I’m not a huge fan of the topsider. I have one and the pump failed and I 
remember it taking forever to drain!

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> On Mar 12, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't remember changing the oil from underneath in that car. I thought we
> used a topsider.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 5:45 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Buy a TopSider and never take the plug out again, that's what I've done.
>> 
>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I don't remember changing the oil from underneath in that car. I thought we
used a topsider.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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> Buy a TopSider and never take the plug out again, that's what I've done.
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I can’t count the number of Mercedes’ I’ve never removed a drain plug from. 
Nearly every one I’ve owned.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2021, at 5:44 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
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> Buy a TopSider and never take the plug out again, that's what I've done.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Buy a TopSider and never take the plug out again, that's what I've done.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why not replace the drain pan? I bought one for $28 IIRC.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I suggest he wants to put a new plug in it in any event.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 12/03/2021 11:27 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >   LOL, this is the real answer. The MB is designed for it and IIRC
> several people have shown you get as much or more oil out going up as going
> down.
> > -Curt
> >
> >  On Friday, March 12, 2021, 12:22:34 PM EST, Dwight Giles via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >   Use a topsider??
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D
> >> 2.5. It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I
> >> haven’t done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started
> >> wrenching on cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket
> onto
> >> it and hope for the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled
> >> with oil? I’ll be mig welding.
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

I suggest he wants to put a new plug in it in any event.

RB


On 12/03/2021 11:27 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  LOL, this is the real answer. The MB is designed for it and IIRC several 
people have shown you get as much or more oil out going up as going down.
-Curt

 On Friday, March 12, 2021, 12:22:34 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  Use a topsider??

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D
2.5. It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I
haven’t done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started
wrenching on cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto
it and hope for the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled
with oil? I’ll be mig welding.




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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 LOL, this is the real answer. The MB is designed for it and IIRC several 
people have shown you get as much or more oil out going up as going down.
-Curt

On Friday, March 12, 2021, 12:22:34 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Use a topsider??
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D
> 2.5. It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I
> haven’t done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started
> wrenching on cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto
> it and hope for the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled
> with oil? I’ll be mig welding.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Use a topsider??
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D
> 2.5. It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I
> haven’t done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started
> wrenching on cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto
> it and hope for the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled
> with oil? I’ll be mig welding.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I wouldn't think it likely that you will set the engine oil on fire in 
the length of time it would take to weld something onto the plug. Why 
not use a Nut rather than a socket. Just hold it up there with vice 
grips and weld in the middle of the nut.


RB

On 12/03/2021 10:22 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D 2.5. 
It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I haven’t 
done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started wrenching on 
cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto it and hope for 
the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled with oil? I’ll be mig 
welding.

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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Since the drain plug head is already destroyed, I'd try one of those
sockets meant for removing rounded-off bolts. They have teeth that bite
into the fastener, and I've had good luck with them. Available at Harbor
Fright or probably any big box store.

Allan

Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes  writes:

> Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D 2.5. 
> It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I haven’t 
> done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started wrenching on 
> cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto it and hope for 
> the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled with oil? I’ll be 
> mig welding.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

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Re: [MBZ] Rounded drain plug!

2021-03-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not enough there to get a vicegrips on it?

-D

> On Mar 12, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yup like the idiot that I am I rounded the oil drain plug on the 90 300D 2.5. 
> It was in bad shape to begin with and tight so there you have it. I haven’t 
> done anything this stupid since my early twenties when I started wrenching on 
> cars. My plan of attack is to weld a cheap 13 mm socket onto it and hope for 
> the best. Is this a bad idea to do on a drain pan filled with oil? I’ll be 
> mig welding.
> 
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