Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Beautiful place, especially in the fall. Tough to avoid all the leaf peepers, though. -D > On Jun 25, 2019, at 10:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > When my buddy got married in college he had the ceremony at this inn at Brown > County Park in Indiana. While he and the

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2019-06-25 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
When my buddy got married in college he had the ceremony at this inn at Brown County Park in Indiana. While he and the bride were changing to go my buddies and I picked up his beetle and carried it through the doors of the inn and deposited it there. He was somewhat annoyed at our antic but

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Ah - I missed the convertible part - very true, though I never took one off the pan. On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You can do that with a regular (sedan) Beetle all day long. A convertible > has larger frame box members on the sides of

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You can do that with a regular (sedan) Beetle all day long. A convertible has larger frame box members on the sides of the pan to give it structural rigidity. Try and lift the convertible body off the pan and it folds up like a big German taco. -D > On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:55 PM, OK Don via

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Hmmm - when I replaced the pan on my '51 VW bug with one from a '62 or '64 (don't remember for sure now), we just closed the doors, a guy on each corner, and we just lifted it off and set on blocks until the newer pan was ready (needed the front axle transplanted). Rinse a repeat to put it on the

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We used to know a guy who was a retired detective from Miami PD that had a really nice 48 foot trimaran he would rent out for the week. He would crew it for us if we wanted, which is what we often did, as he knew the waters a lot better as well as the best places to dive. Saw a lot of really

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was living in the GWN at the time. I used to try and plan my business trips to Central America in the winter. I went to Panama one time and during the trip spent a day on my customer’s 60’ Hatteras. Walk into the office the next week in the dead of January with a blazing sunburn, beet red.

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2019-06-25 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
We were always windsurfing.  I wore long sleeve water shirts and running tights, lots of grease on exposed surfaces.  Never really got burned and I turn red when I turn on a ceiling light.  I recall renting a car a coupla times so we could putter around the island.  One of the kids at the

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 25/06/2019 2:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: We always rode scooters when we went to Aruba. The little Mom & Pop place we stayed at (if we weren’t bareboating) had them around so you could just grab one and go into Oranjestad at your leisure. Definitely want to wear lots of

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We always rode scooters when we went to Aruba. The little Mom & Pop place we stayed at (if we weren’t bareboating) had them around so you could just grab one and go into Oranjestad at your leisure. Definitely want to wear lots of sunscreen. First time down we were out all day and ended up

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
We went to Aruba a few times back when, there were a few old merkin rides around, big ol 4 doors like Oldsmobiles and whatnot. They had the tops chopped off and doors welded shut and were "roadsters."  But they still shook like crazy.  Rain?  No problem!  The water just drained through the

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There was some overlap in 71 between the “standard” Beetle and the Super Beetle. This was a “standard” Beetle with the flat windshield. The pictures in the shop are in a now defunct carriage builder’s shop that was built in the 1870s in Sheboygan, WI. The guy that did the restoration body work

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 25/06/2019 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Only these that I have scanned. http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html There are more somewhere but they haven’t been scanned. -D Hard to tell from the photos. Does the 71 still have the flat windshield?

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Only these that I have scanned. http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html There are more somewhere but they haven’t been scanned. -D > On Jun 25, 2019, at 2:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:50:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:50:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body > shop welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body > between the door pillars. That way they could remove the body from the > pan without the

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 25/06/2019 1:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:28:38 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof, you don't need doors. Now that sounds

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 25/06/2019 1:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:28:38 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof, you don't need doors. Now that sounds

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
When my 1971 VW Beetle convertible had a pan-off restoration, the body shop welded the doors shut and welded a spreader across the body between the door pillars. That way they could remove the body from the pan without the body “folding up”, so to speak. It worked beautifully. -D > On Jun 25,

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:28:38 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a > convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof, > you don't need doors. Now that sounds like good advice for the group! :-) Craig

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Weld the doors shut to improve the body structure. It won't be a convertible. It will just be a car with no roof. If you have no roof, you don't need doors. On 25/06/2019 11:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Exactly my point. If they cut the pillars off the car will fold up like a big

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Absolutely. “Hey Bubba, watch this!” -D > On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:50 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > But it will be fun to watch if the record it ... > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Exactly my point. If they cut the

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
But it will be fun to watch if the record it ... On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:35 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Exactly my point. If they cut the pillars off the car will fold up like a > big metal taco. > > -D > > > > On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Jim Cathey >

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly my point. If they cut the pillars off the car will fold up like a big metal taco. -D > On Jun 25, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > >> I can imagine how quickly that body will fold up like a big taco as soon as >> the roof is cut off. > > You can't _just_ cut the roof off.

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I can imagine how quickly that body will fold up like a big taco as soon as > the roof is cut off. You can't _just_ cut the roof off. Our W114 250C has the roof cut off. There are also huge pieces of channel iron bolted underneath the car to compensate. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
in a Chevy LS v8 and cut the roof off. Yeah, > that ought to be interesting... > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: June 25, 2019 11:07 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: richthomas79td...@constructivity.net > S

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
On 6/25/19 12:07 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: haha yeah i saw that, it is weirdly compelling... --FT On 6/25/19 11:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I think his intent is to swap in a Chevy LS v8 and cut the roof off. Yeah, that ought to be interesting... Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 25, 2019 11:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should

Re: [MBZ] Should Be A Convertible Soon Too

2019-06-25 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
haha yeah i saw that, it is weirdly compelling... --FT On 6/25/19 11:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: