Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing

2005-12-14 Thread redghost

Lee,

I did a google and I could not find it. Please point me in the correct 
direction, as this would be a great tool for such instances as the one 
just past.


On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, at 05:05 AM, Lee Levitt wrote:


Click  Clack Tappet Brothers Light
Extinguisher



--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing

2005-12-14 Thread Lee Levitt
Clay writes:

 
 I did a google and I could not find it. Please point me in 
 the correct direction, as this would be a great tool for such 
 instances as the one just past.
 
 On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, at 05:05 AM, Lee Levitt wrote:
 
  Click  Clack Tappet Brothers Light
  Extinguisher

They must have taken it off their website (http://www.cartalk.com/).

It's a roll of electrical tape. Cut a piece off and tape it over the
offending idiot light. grin

Lee
'93 300D 2.5 180K





Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing

2005-12-13 Thread John M McIntosh


On 12-Dec-05, at 10:17 PM, redghost wrote:

QoD - OMG!  There is a blue idiot light on now!  What do I do?   
What is

that?

Me - Move the turn stalk back and forth, that should fix it

QoD - Ok  Wow, that did it.  What went wrong?


So last weekend I'm returning from the city via the highway at 3:00  
in the afternoon and oncoming is someone with their bright lights on,  
it's really really bright, great lights...
They zip past, I look, it's my wife in the 90's wagon with the e500  
beams on high! Since it's wired for both the inner and outer lamps  
for high, it's really bright.


Sigh, grab cell phone, hit auto-dial.

Dear I think I just passed you on the highway, is the blue light on  
the dash on?


yes?

Please turn the high beams off, people will like you better...

PS headlamps are on in Canada, so we automatically switch them on for  
the two cars that don't have DRL. Seem when she comes home at night  
the high beams are left
on because of the dark lane, then when you turn them on in the day,  
why they still are on high, but you don't really notice. Others do tho..



John

1983 300TDt  359k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  156k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 169k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)





Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing

2005-12-13 Thread Tom Hargrave
Some spouses just don't share the same love for old Mercedes that we do and
no matter what you do, they will not be happy driving one.

That's why my Wife drives a new Jeep Grand Cherokee.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com



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Subject: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing


The Queen of Denial has finally gone beyond my ability to deal with.
Well, she is fine, she just should have Cleo taken from her.

Been complaining to me about odd dummy lights and strange things.  Ran
around finding which light could be out, and I think I finally got it.
Replace ALL the damn lights so that I dealt with intermittent issues.

Then she decides there must be a bulb out in the dash.  Idiot light for
the glow is not being right.

Me - Well, can you explain it better, please?

QoD - Uh, it sort of does not come on, then it does after I start.

Me - Ok, then what?

QoD - The car does not run well.

Me - I suspect it is a glow issue

QoD - The bulb is burning out, the car runs, so it can't be the glow
plug.  I think it is a fuse

Me - It is not a fuse. Marshall tells everyone to do fuses, but this
is a glow plug.  If one or more are out on a cold morning,  you car
will start, you know that right?

QoD - No, my glow plug starts the car, it just runs sort of lumpy.  I
know it must be a fuse to the dash lights

Me - I think I will read the 124 Bible and get back to you on this
dear, in the meantime call the dealer and schedule a visit, because
this is going to be more than I can deal with this weekend and I would
like their opinion.  Just explain it to them so they can ask you the
right questions

  QoD - Can you call them? I am really busy

Me - I have no idea what you have happen and you drive the car and
start from cold, I am not going to be able to tell them anything

More discussion ensues over what it could be and who should handle the
service guy brain picking.  I decide to just check the book after
telling her it would be like thousands of $$$ because she has developed
a leak in the framjimnaster that a proper spec glow plug would
resolve.  Come up with preglow relay failure, GP #1 dead or two or more
GP failing in a 606 engine.

Tell her to schedule shop time because both of us are too busy to have
me work on the car this week or next.   I checked prices for parts from
Rusty and amount of knuckle busting and hand wringing I would expend.
Again advise she call the dealer.

Next day while she is driving to work, I get a call

Me - So, when is the car going in?

QoD - I am too busy right now!  The lumping is getting worse.  The
light comes on AFTER I start now and stays on for a minute or
something!  I think it is the bulb that the fuse is connected to

Me - Just get the shop to check and fix it, they have the parts

QoD - Why can't you fix the bulb?  You finally made that other idiot
light go off

Me - That was a light, this is a glow plug

QoD - But this is a light too!  It is yellow like the other one

Me - Glow plugs are not lights, and I think from what I read it is the
relay as well as glow plugs, so while they are in there, they can fix
it.  You are going to want good glow plugs this winter when it gets
really cold

QoD - OMG!  There is a blue idiot light on now!  What do I do?  What is
that?

Me - Move the turn stalk back and forth, that should fix it

QoD - Ok  Wow, that did it.  What went wrong?

Me - I bet it was the fuse to the Gurkenmeister, those will blow
when the glow plugs are not getting enough signal from the relay.  All
you have to do is jiggle the stalk and that will wear away some nano
particles and it works again.  You better get the car in the shop
before the Gurkenmeister really dies

It devolves into who is going to call the shop.  The car is not going
until she kills it and it will no longer start on a cold morning,
having worn out the battery.


--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing

2005-12-13 Thread Lee Levitt
Clay,

You should invest in a roll of Click  Clack Tappet Brothers Light
Extinguisher. Guaranteed to take care of any idiot light...

Lee 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost
 Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:18 AM
 To: Mercedes list
 Subject: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
 
 The Queen of Denial has finally gone beyond my ability to deal with.  
 Well, she is fine, she just should have Cleo taken from her.
 
 Been complaining to me about odd dummy lights and strange 
 things.  Ran around finding which light could be out, and I 
 think I finally got it.  
 Replace ALL the damn lights so that I dealt with intermittent issues.
 
 Then she decides there must be a bulb out in the dash.  Idiot 
 light for the glow is not being right.
 
 Me - Well, can you explain it better, please?
 
 QoD - Uh, it sort of does not come on, then it does after I start.
 
 Me - Ok, then what?
 
 QoD - The car does not run well.
 
 Me - I suspect it is a glow issue
 
 QoD - The bulb is burning out, the car runs, so it can't be 
 the glow plug.  I think it is a fuse
 
 Me - It is not a fuse. Marshall tells everyone to do fuses, 
 but this is a glow plug.  If one or more are out on a cold 
 morning,  you car will start, you know that right?
 
 QoD - No, my glow plug starts the car, it just runs sort of 
 lumpy.  I know it must be a fuse to the dash lights
 
 Me - I think I will read the 124 Bible and get back to you 
 on this dear, in the meantime call the dealer and schedule a 
 visit, because this is going to be more than I can deal with 
 this weekend and I would like their opinion.  Just explain it 
 to them so they can ask you the right questions
 
   QoD - Can you call them? I am really busy
 
 Me - I have no idea what you have happen and you drive the 
 car and start from cold, I am not going to be able to tell 
 them anything
 
 More discussion ensues over what it could be and who should 
 handle the service guy brain picking.  I decide to just check 
 the book after telling her it would be like thousands of $$$ 
 because she has developed a leak in the framjimnaster that 
 a proper spec glow plug would resolve.  Come up with preglow 
 relay failure, GP #1 dead or two or more GP failing in a 606 engine.
 
 Tell her to schedule shop time because both of us are too 
 busy to have 
 me work on the car this week or next.   I checked prices for 
 parts from 
 Rusty and amount of knuckle busting and hand wringing I would 
 expend.  
 Again advise she call the dealer.
 
 Next day while she is driving to work, I get a call
 
 Me - So, when is the car going in?
 
 QoD - I am too busy right now!  The lumping is getting 
 worse.  The light comes on AFTER I start now and stays on for 
 a minute or something!  I think it is the bulb that the fuse 
 is connected to
 
 Me - Just get the shop to check and fix it, they have the parts
 
 QoD - Why can't you fix the bulb?  You finally made that 
 other idiot light go off
 
 Me - That was a light, this is a glow plug
 
 QoD - But this is a light too!  It is yellow like the other one
 
 Me - Glow plugs are not lights, and I think from what I read 
 it is the relay as well as glow plugs, so while they are in 
 there, they can fix it.  You are going to want good glow 
 plugs this winter when it gets really cold
 
 QoD - OMG!  There is a blue idiot light on now!  What do I 
 do?  What is that?
 
 Me - Move the turn stalk back and forth, that should fix it
 
 QoD - Ok  Wow, that did it.  What went wrong?
 
 Me - I bet it was the fuse to the Gurkenmeister, those 
 will blow when the glow plugs are not getting enough signal 
 from the relay.  All you have to do is jiggle the stalk and 
 that will wear away some nano particles and it works again.  
 You better get the car in the shop before the Gurkenmeister 
 really dies
 
 It devolves into who is going to call the shop.  The car is 
 not going until she kills it and it will no longer start on a 
 cold morning, having worn out the battery.
 
 
 --
 Clay
 Seattle Bioburner
 
 1972 220D - Gump
 1995 E300D - Cleo
 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
 The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing

2005-12-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Do not explain, just fix.  Explainations lead to arguments, usually 
totally removed from the subject at hand, and it's not worth the time.


This applies to work situations as well as spousal situations, I've 
discovered.


You have at least one bad glow plug, replace them all to make sure.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing

2005-12-13 Thread LT Don
Same rule apply for spouses?

[Don't imply anything -- very satisfied with mine.]



On 12/13/05, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 You have at least one bad glow plug, replace them all to make sure.





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Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing

2005-12-13 Thread Peter Frederick
A bit more difficult (although maybe not on a 603) and you must 
replace with a good one (something too many people I know don't seem to 
do -- endless repeats of the same old situation!).


You also don't usually get something a simple as a warning lamp, 
either.


Peter