Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thank you for warning Karl, I do apologize but I won't stand by for insults 
against America when our soldiers are dying overseas on an impossible mission 
due to incompetent leadership.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Aug 29, 2021 10:08:44 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes :

> Stop. Not appropriate for this list and you know it. No more warnings.
> 
> -D/ListMom
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Kind of like the current tyrants forcing "woke" down our thoughts.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:07 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Kind of like the original settlers here in the US.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:57 AM OK Don via Mercedes >>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing
>>> to
 die to inflict their religion on everyone.
 
 On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 9:58 PM Clay via Mercedes >>> 
 wrote:
 
> Helps much more that it is YOUR place and you will die for your home.
 The
> invaders have no investment in success.  Maybe the pretty boys do, but
 not
> the grunts who would rather be home with his honey, sucking down a
>>> beer,
> and wrenching on his vehicle of choice.  Tally Wacker Man cares deeply,
 is
> this is his life.
> 
> Same sort of gut instinct/reaction as a good American would find
> engendered should some outsider come making a mess of our homeland.
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-29 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Stop. Not appropriate for this list and you know it. No more warnings.

-D/ListMom

> On Aug 29, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kind of like the current tyrants forcing "woke" down our thoughts.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:07 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Kind of like the original settlers here in the US.
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:57 AM OK Don via Mercedes >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing
>> to
>>> die to inflict their religion on everyone.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 9:58 PM Clay via Mercedes >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Helps much more that it is YOUR place and you will die for your home.
>>> The
 invaders have no investment in success.  Maybe the pretty boys do, but
>>> not
 the grunts who would rather be home with his honey, sucking down a
>> beer,
 and wrenching on his vehicle of choice.  Tally Wacker Man cares deeply,
>>> is
 this is his life.
 
 Same sort of gut instinct/reaction as a good American would find
 engendered should some outsider come making a mess of our homeland.
 
 Clay
 
 
 inter urinas et faeces nascimur
 
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>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Kind of like the current tyrants forcing "woke" down our thoughts.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:07 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Kind of like the original settlers here in the US.
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:57 AM OK Don via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing
> to
> > die to inflict their religion on everyone.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 9:58 PM Clay via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Helps much more that it is YOUR place and you will die for your home.
> > The
> > > invaders have no investment in success.  Maybe the pretty boys do, but
> > not
> > > the grunts who would rather be home with his honey, sucking down a
> beer,
> > > and wrenching on his vehicle of choice.  Tally Wacker Man cares deeply,
> > is
> > > this is his life.
> > >
> > > Same sort of gut instinct/reaction as a good American would find
> > > engendered should some outsider come making a mess of our homeland.
> > >
> > > Clay
> > >
> > >
> > > inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> > >
> > > > On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
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> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> > Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-08-22 11:56, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing 
to

die to inflict their religion on everyone.



Unfortunately, the Taliban leaders have been making their list and 
checking it twice for over 19 years. Now Butcher Clause is coming to 
town.


I should look around and see which media outlets remember him as Baradar 
The Butcher, NYT doesn't want to go there...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/world/asia/taliban-baradar-kabul-afghanistan.html

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Kind of like the original settlers here in the US.

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:57 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing to
> die to inflict their religion on everyone.
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 9:58 PM Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Helps much more that it is YOUR place and you will die for your home.
> The
> > invaders have no investment in success.  Maybe the pretty boys do, but
> not
> > the grunts who would rather be home with his honey, sucking down a beer,
> > and wrenching on his vehicle of choice.  Tally Wacker Man cares deeply,
> is
> > this is his life.
> >
> > Same sort of gut instinct/reaction as a good American would find
> > engendered should some outsider come making a mess of our homeland.
> >
> > Clay
> >
> >
> > inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> >
> > > On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
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> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I think we had them pretty handily beat on the financing front. At least
that is what my tax return said.

K

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> It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in
> the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being ruthless.
> Just for your reading pleasure:
> https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
> and:
>
> https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>
> > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of
> top
> > > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours. Perhaps
> > we
> > > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
> > > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE
> TALIBAN.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
They aren't just willing to die to protect their home, they are willing to
die to inflict their religion on everyone.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 9:58 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Helps much more that it is YOUR place and you will die for your home.  The
> invaders have no investment in success.  Maybe the pretty boys do, but not
> the grunts who would rather be home with his honey, sucking down a beer,
> and wrenching on his vehicle of choice.  Tally Wacker Man cares deeply, is
> this is his life.
>
> Same sort of gut instinct/reaction as a good American would find
> engendered should some outsider come making a mess of our homeland.
>
> Clay
>
>
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>
> > On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Helps much more that it is YOUR place and you will die for your home.  The 
invaders have no investment in success.  Maybe the pretty boys do, but not the 
grunts who would rather be home with his honey, sucking down a beer, and 
wrenching on his vehicle of choice.  Tally Wacker Man cares deeply, is this is 
his life.

Same sort of gut instinct/reaction as a good American would find engendered 
should some outsider come making a mess of our homeland.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Alexander the Great could not conquer them. He paid for passage through
their country. His general had to fight his way through with heavy losses.
Ain't history great?
Fred.

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> Don't forget the British!
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 5:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   The USSR tried and failed.
>
> The USA tried and failed.
>
> What will China do differently?
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Anyone want to place a bet on which country will try to conquer
> Afghanistan
> > next?  Lots of mineral wealth in addition to the opium trade, might be
> > tempting to China.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:21 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Huh.  I thought they were Asiatic roses...
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:23 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy
> fields in
> > > > the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being
> > > ruthless.
> > > > Just for your reading pleasure:
> > > >
> https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
> > > > and:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their
> lack of
> > > > top
> > > > > > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours.
> > > Perhaps
> > > > > we
> > > > > > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won
> with
> > > > > > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE
> > > > TALIBAN.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via
> Mercedes <
> > > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The vehicle of choice for the hajis, mujis, skinnies, and all
> > > other
> > > > > > forms
> > > > > > > > of brave freedom fighters against the Great Satan. Mount
> your .50
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > back and you’re an instant Technical!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --FT
> > > > > > > > Sent from iPhone
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Don't forget the British!
Curt

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  On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 5:04 PM, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes wrote:   The USSR tried and failed.

The USA tried and failed.

What will China do differently?


On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Anyone want to place a bet on which country will try to conquer Afghanistan
> next?  Lots of mineral wealth in addition to the opium trade, might be
> tempting to China.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:21 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Huh.  I thought they were Asiatic roses...
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:23 PM G Mann via Mercedes  > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in
> > > the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being
> > ruthless.
> > > Just for your reading pleasure:
> > > https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
> > > and:
> > >
> > >
> > https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of
> > > top
> > > > > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours.
> > Perhaps
> > > > we
> > > > > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
> > > > > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
China already has deals in the works, via the Belt and Road initiative. China 
has no concerns on human rights, etc. all they have asked is the the Taliban 
steer clear of any issues with the Muslim population in China, and they agreed. 
I can provide documentation, but really this discussion is best addressed on 
Okie talk.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

The USSR tried and failed.

The USA tried and failed.

What will China do differently?


On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Anyone want to place a bet on which country will try to conquer Afghanistan
> next?  Lots of mineral wealth in addition to the opium trade, might be
> tempting to China.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:21 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Huh.  I thought they were Asiatic roses...
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:23 PM G Mann via Mercedes  > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in
> > > the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being
> > ruthless.
> > > Just for your reading pleasure:
> > > https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
> > > and:
> > >
> > >
> > https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of
> > > top
> > > > > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours.
> > Perhaps
> > > > we
> > > > > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
> > > > > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE
> > > TALIBAN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The vehicle of choice for the hajis, mujis, skinnies, and all
> > other
> > > > > forms
> > > > > > > of brave freedom fighters against the Great Satan. Mount your .50
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > back and you’re an instant Technical!
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
China will have met its match on individual corruption with Afghanistan. It
would be a great partnership. Mutual destruction assured.
I lived in Afghanistan and the Northern Tribal Territories [Northern
Pakistan tribal area] among the tribes for 7 years during the "Russia era".
I gained a rather pure understanding of the people and culture held by few
others.
Good luck, China. It will be an experience you will not forget quickly.

"If an Afghani tells you the sun rises in the East, stand quietly with your
back against the wall while facing West with your sword drawn and wait for
his attack."
... English Army Officer  English occupation 

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:52 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anyone want to place a bet on which country will try to conquer Afghanistan
> next?  Lots of mineral wealth in addition to the opium trade, might be
> tempting to China.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:21 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Huh.  I thought they were Asiatic roses...
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:23 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields
> in
> > > the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being
> > ruthless.
> > > Just for your reading pleasure:
> > > https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
> > > and:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack
> of
> > > top
> > > > > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours.
> > Perhaps
> > > > we
> > > > > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won
> with
> > > > > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE
> > > TALIBAN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The vehicle of choice for the hajis, mujis, skinnies, and all
> > other
> > > > > forms
> > > > > > > of brave freedom fighters against the Great Satan. Mount your
> .50
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > back and you’re an instant Technical!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --FT
> > > > > > > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The USSR tried and failed.

The USA tried and failed.

What will China do differently?


On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, at 4:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Anyone want to place a bet on which country will try to conquer Afghanistan
> next?  Lots of mineral wealth in addition to the opium trade, might be
> tempting to China.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:21 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Huh.  I thought they were Asiatic roses...
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:23 PM G Mann via Mercedes  > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in
> > > the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being
> > ruthless.
> > > Just for your reading pleasure:
> > > https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
> > > and:
> > >
> > >
> > https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of
> > > top
> > > > > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours.
> > Perhaps
> > > > we
> > > > > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
> > > > > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE
> > > TALIBAN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The vehicle of choice for the hajis, mujis, skinnies, and all
> > other
> > > > > forms
> > > > > > > of brave freedom fighters against the Great Satan. Mount your .50
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > back and you’re an instant Technical!
> > > > > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Anyone want to place a bet on which country will try to conquer Afghanistan
next?  Lots of mineral wealth in addition to the opium trade, might be
tempting to China.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:21 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Huh.  I thought they were Asiatic roses...
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:23 PM G Mann via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in
> > the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being
> ruthless.
> > Just for your reading pleasure:
> > https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
> > and:
> >
> >
> https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of
> > top
> > > > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours.
> Perhaps
> > > we
> > > > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
> > > > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE
> > TALIBAN.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The vehicle of choice for the hajis, mujis, skinnies, and all
> other
> > > > forms
> > > > > > of brave freedom fighters against the Great Satan. Mount your .50
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > back and you’re an instant Technical!
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Huh.  I thought they were Asiatic roses...

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:23 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in
> the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being ruthless.
> Just for your reading pleasure:
> https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
> and:
>
> https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> >
> > > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of
> top
> > > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours. Perhaps
> > we
> > > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
> > > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It also helps to totally own the largest opium production poppy fields in
the world, just to finance those necessary war items, while being ruthless.
Just for your reading pleasure:
https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/resources/taliban_opium_1.pdf
and:
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2017/11/21/afghanistans-opium-production-is-through-the-roof-why-washington-shouldnt-overreact/

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> It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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>
> > Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of top
> > dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours. Perhaps
> we
> > should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
> > similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It helps to be ruthless, conscience-free, and well organized.

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> Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of top
> dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours. Perhaps we
> should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
> similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Funny how they seem to have won the 20 year war despite their lack of top
dollar equipment. I bet their budget was a lot lower than ours. Perhaps we
should take a few notes from their procurement guys. Ww2 was won with
similarly dirt simple tech IIRC.

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is a great selling point for Tesla: WE DO NOT SELL TO THE TALIBAN.

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> back and you’re an instant Technical!
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> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The vehicle of choice for the hajis, mujis, skinnies, and all other forms of 
brave freedom fighters against the Great Satan. Mount your .50 in the back and 
you’re an instant Technical!

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Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Yeah, I saw one of those on the national news tonight, too.

-D

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 9:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> But wait --- what's this??
> 
> https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/2daf4e4b531542e0bb7487b0aa2ab183/800.jpeg
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell 
>> to the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or Ford 
>> or whoever.Or they just import them from outside of the region, they already 
>> know how to smuggle.
>> It's just a thing, that gets used by people, like a big Mercedes sedan for 
>> the leader of a banana republic..
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Friday, August 20, 2021, 10:50:14 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> 
>> https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/vehicles/taliban-toyota-third-world-warfare?utm_source=facebook_medium=social_campaign=ihsocial=IwAR29PHOWeNJBtEBnVzYZ15ujm2oQcViThjlipoTPUiAGosTYOaNwpYmaKSM
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
But wait --- what's this??

https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/2daf4e4b531542e0bb7487b0aa2ab183/800.jpeg



On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell to 
> the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or Ford or 
> whoever.Or they just import them from outside of the region, they already 
> know how to smuggle.
> It's just a thing, that gets used by people, like a big Mercedes sedan for 
> the leader of a banana republic..
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, August 20, 2021, 10:50:14 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
>  
>  
> https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/vehicles/taliban-toyota-third-world-warfare?utm_source=facebook_medium=social_campaign=ihsocial=IwAR29PHOWeNJBtEBnVzYZ15ujm2oQcViThjlipoTPUiAGosTYOaNwpYmaKSM
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Speaking of which, has anyone watched the last episode of whatever they call 
their show now? The one where they all drive big American land yachts across 
northern Scotland?

It’s pretty entertaining.

-D

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There's a Top Gear episode where they try to destroy a Toyota truck. Of 
> course it's all contrived for the show but it's still fun.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 5:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Buddy of the youngest son has the domestic equivalent of the HiLux from the 
>> early 80s. He’s a water treatment guy at the Grand Canyon. The truck has 
>> over 400k on it and looks like it, but it still runs like new. He maintains 
>> it well and says it’s never left him stranded. Youngest son got to learn how 
>> to drive a stick in it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had an '87 Toyota pickup, 4WD, 22RE engine. Engine and drivetrain was 
>>> bulletproof. The body sheet metal on the other had was extremely 
>>> rust-prone. Probably would have held up well in a desert though.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
 I had a 1970 Toyota Hilux back in about 1974-75. It was a beater but it 
 didn't cause a whole lot of trouble. A good little truck but little was 
 the word. Small cab and small box.
 It was the one with the turn signals mounted on top of the front fenders 
 and was essentially avocado green. Some previous owner had pulled the 
 original seat and installed bucket seats out of a VW bug and it was not 
 an improvement.
 
 
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> When I grew up in Greece, the lowlife gypsies who would rent their 
> children out to beg in the streets and pick pocket the tourists drove the 
> nasty hilux and Datsun pickup trucks. Now it’s the taliban. Either way 
> the trucks seem to appeal to the lowest form of human garbage.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> "So reliable even the Taliban drives them!”
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
There's a Top Gear episode where they try to destroy a Toyota truck. Of course 
it's all contrived for the show but it's still fun.

Allan

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> Buddy of the youngest son has the domestic equivalent of the HiLux from the 
> early 80s. He’s a water treatment guy at the Grand Canyon. The truck has over 
> 400k on it and looks like it, but it still runs like new. He maintains it 
> well and says it’s never left him stranded. Youngest son got to learn how to 
> drive a stick in it.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I had an '87 Toyota pickup, 4WD, 22RE engine. Engine and drivetrain was 
> > bulletproof. The body sheet metal on the other had was extremely 
> > rust-prone. Probably would have held up well in a desert though.
> > 
> > Allan
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I had a 1970 Toyota Hilux back in about 1974-75. It was a beater but it 
> >> didn't cause a whole lot of trouble. A good little truck but little was 
> >> the word. Small cab and small box.
> >> It was the one with the turn signals mounted on top of the front fenders 
> >> and was essentially avocado green. Some previous owner had pulled the 
> >> original seat and installed bucket seats out of a VW bug and it was not 
> >> an improvement.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 20/08/2021 2:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> When I grew up in Greece, the lowlife gypsies who would rent their 
> >>> children out to beg in the streets and pick pocket the tourists drove the 
> >>> nasty hilux and Datsun pickup trucks. Now it’s the taliban. Either way 
> >>> the trucks seem to appeal to the lowest form of human garbage.
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
>  On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
>  
>  "So reliable even the Taliban drives them!”
>  
>  -D
>  
>  
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Buddy of the youngest son has the domestic equivalent of the HiLux from the 
early 80s. He’s a water treatment guy at the Grand Canyon. The truck has over 
400k on it and looks like it, but it still runs like new. He maintains it well 
and says it’s never left him stranded. Youngest son got to learn how to drive a 
stick in it.

-D

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had an '87 Toyota pickup, 4WD, 22RE engine. Engine and drivetrain was 
> bulletproof. The body sheet metal on the other had was extremely rust-prone. 
> Probably would have held up well in a desert though.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> I had a 1970 Toyota Hilux back in about 1974-75. It was a beater but it 
>> didn't cause a whole lot of trouble. A good little truck but little was 
>> the word. Small cab and small box.
>> It was the one with the turn signals mounted on top of the front fenders 
>> and was essentially avocado green. Some previous owner had pulled the 
>> original seat and installed bucket seats out of a VW bug and it was not 
>> an improvement.
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/08/2021 2:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>>> When I grew up in Greece, the lowlife gypsies who would rent their children 
>>> out to beg in the streets and pick pocket the tourists drove the nasty 
>>> hilux and Datsun pickup trucks. Now it’s the taliban. Either way the trucks 
>>> seem to appeal to the lowest form of human garbage.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 "So reliable even the Taliban drives them!”
 
 -D
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I had an '87 Toyota pickup, 4WD, 22RE engine. Engine and drivetrain was 
bulletproof. The body sheet metal on the other had was extremely rust-prone. 
Probably would have held up well in a desert though.

Allan

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> I had a 1970 Toyota Hilux back in about 1974-75. It was a beater but it 
> didn't cause a whole lot of trouble. A good little truck but little was 
> the word. Small cab and small box.
> It was the one with the turn signals mounted on top of the front fenders 
> and was essentially avocado green. Some previous owner had pulled the 
> original seat and installed bucket seats out of a VW bug and it was not 
> an improvement.
> 
> 
> On 20/08/2021 2:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> > When I grew up in Greece, the lowlife gypsies who would rent their children 
> > out to beg in the streets and pick pocket the tourists drove the nasty 
> > hilux and Datsun pickup trucks. Now it’s the taliban. Either way the trucks 
> > seem to appeal to the lowest form of human garbage.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> "So reliable even the Taliban drives them!”
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I rented an Atos in Greece.  Had 5 speeds and 5 hp.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 4:32 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I had a 1970 Toyota Hilux back in about 1974-75. It was a beater but it
> didn't cause a whole lot of trouble. A good little truck but little was
> the word. Small cab and small box.
> It was the one with the turn signals mounted on top of the front fenders
> and was essentially avocado green. Some previous owner had pulled the
> original seat and installed bucket seats out of a VW bug and it was not
> an improvement.
>
>
> On 20/08/2021 2:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> > When I grew up in Greece, the lowlife gypsies who would rent their
> children out to beg in the streets and pick pocket the tourists drove the
> nasty hilux and Datsun pickup trucks. Now it’s the taliban. Either way the
> trucks seem to appeal to the lowest form of human garbage.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> "So reliable even the Taliban drives them!”
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I had a 1970 Toyota Hilux back in about 1974-75. It was a beater but it 
didn't cause a whole lot of trouble. A good little truck but little was 
the word. Small cab and small box.
It was the one with the turn signals mounted on top of the front fenders 
and was essentially avocado green. Some previous owner had pulled the 
original seat and installed bucket seats out of a VW bug and it was not 
an improvement.



On 20/08/2021 2:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

When I grew up in Greece, the lowlife gypsies who would rent their children out 
to beg in the streets and pick pocket the tourists drove the nasty hilux and 
Datsun pickup trucks. Now it’s the taliban. Either way the trucks seem to 
appeal to the lowest form of human garbage.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

"So reliable even the Taliban drives them!”

-D





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2021-08-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
When I grew up in Greece, the lowlife gypsies who would rent their children out 
to beg in the streets and pick pocket the tourists drove the nasty hilux and 
Datsun pickup trucks. Now it’s the taliban. Either way the trucks seem to 
appeal to the lowest form of human garbage.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "So reliable even the Taliban drives them!”
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell 
>> to the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or Ford 
>> or whoever.Or they just import them from outside of the region, they already 
>> know how to smuggle.
>> It's just a thing, that gets used by people, like a big Mercedes sedan for 
>> the leader of a banana republic..
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Friday, August 20, 2021, 10:50:14 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> 
>> https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/vehicles/taliban-toyota-third-world-warfare?utm_source=facebook_medium=social_campaign=ihsocial=IwAR29PHOWeNJBtEBnVzYZ15ujm2oQcViThjlipoTPUiAGosTYOaNwpYmaKSM
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
"So reliable even the Taliban drives them!”

-D


> On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell to 
> the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or Ford or 
> whoever.Or they just import them from outside of the region, they already 
> know how to smuggle.
> It's just a thing, that gets used by people, like a big Mercedes sedan for 
> the leader of a banana republic..
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, August 20, 2021, 10:50:14 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/vehicles/taliban-toyota-third-world-warfare?utm_source=facebook_medium=social_campaign=ihsocial=IwAR29PHOWeNJBtEBnVzYZ15ujm2oQcViThjlipoTPUiAGosTYOaNwpYmaKSM
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The massive King of Tonga - which had 8 miles of road at the time -
purchased a 600 Grosser back in 1969.  The car was delivered but somehow
the key was lost.  It sat on the dock for 3 weeks awaiting a replacement so
his rolypoly Highness could travel in Style.

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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >
> > I realize they can’t control it but the image is the image. Toyota
> truck = terrorist. EV = emasculated liberal pussy.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >> 
> >> They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not
> sell to the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or
> Ford or whoever.
> >> Or they just import them from outside of the region, they already know
> how to smuggle.
> >>
> >> It's just a thing, that gets used by people, like a big Mercedes sedan
> for the leader of a banana republic..
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Friday, August 20, 2021, 10:50:14 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> I realize they can’t control it but the image is the image. Toyota truck = 
> terrorist. EV = emasculated liberal pussy.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 20, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell 
>> to the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or Ford 
>> or whoever.
>> Or they just import them from outside of the region, they already know how 
>> to smuggle.
>> 
>> It's just a thing, that gets used by people, like a big Mercedes sedan for 
>> the leader of a banana republic..
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, August 20, 2021, 10:50:14 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/vehicles/taliban-toyota-third-world-warfare?utm_source=facebook_medium=social_campaign=ihsocial=IwAR29PHOWeNJBtEBnVzYZ15ujm2oQcViThjlipoTPUiAGosTYOaNwpYmaKSM
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota disgusts me.

2021-08-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 They can't really control who buys them though. What can they do, not sell to 
the middle east? So Nissan becomes the Taliban truck of choice, or Ford or 
whoever.Or they just import them from outside of the region, they already know 
how to smuggle.
It's just a thing, that gets used by people, like a big Mercedes sedan for the 
leader of a banana republic..
-Curt

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