Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-19 Thread BillR
] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats] Most of the plantings at the home we built in Wisconsin died within the first year. Because we were on a bluff at the shoreline

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-18 Thread OK Don
You also have to water them On 7/17/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which poop is best for my tomato? I had amended the soil with some nice composted chicken poop. When I planted I enriched around the tomato start with composted steer poop. The stupid plant has been there with a

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-18 Thread andrew strasfogel
Around here tomatoes thrive pretty much no matter what you do to them. The sultry DC weather and long growing season make for an ideal combination. Only problem this year has been the ongoing drought which has forced me to water a couple times On 7/18/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-18 Thread Redghost
It is seattle. IT RAINS -- LOTS so maybe they are being drowned. This is a new bed for them to be in and other stuff grew great there in the past. When the water from the sky went away for a few days, I would hose it down before dinner so it had a chance to evap off the foliage. No

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Probably too much water then, and poor drainage. Check the soil -- if soaked, you will have to find a way to get the water to drain. It should be damp, not full of water. Do not water unless the soil is quite dry and the leaves droop. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-18 Thread LWB250
Most of the plantings at the home we built in Wisconsin died within the first year. Because we were on a bluff at the shoreline, the ground was heavy (and I mean HEAVY) clay. You could dig a hole, pour a bucket of water in it, and it would take literally weeks to drain (if the water didn't

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-18 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:45:25 -0500 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you can overdo it, especially chicken poop -- too much nitrogen burns the roots off the tomato plant. Water it really well, should help revive it, but you may only get leaves, no tomatoes -- I make that

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-17 Thread andrew strasfogel
Yeah, this list is a veritable cauldron of renaissance men. On 7/17/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, you know your feces! Luther On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:56:30 -0500, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order of preference: Horse (hot composted, else it's full of

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-17 Thread R A Bennell
Good comeback Andrew! Randy in Winnipeg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats] Yeah

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-17 Thread Peter Frederick
I have a doctorate in Botany and have been gardening for about 40 years Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-17 Thread Redghost
Which poop is best for my tomato? I had amended the soil with some nice composted chicken poop. When I planted I enriched around the tomato start with composted steer poop. The stupid plant has been there with a bean plant for two months and not getting much taller than the second tier of

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-17 Thread archer
- Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which poop is best for my tomato? I had amended the soil with some nice composted chicken poop. When I planted I enriched around the tomato start with composted steer poop. The stupid plant has been there with a bean plant for

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, you can overdo it, especially chicken poop -- too much nitrogen burns the roots off the tomato plant. Water it really well, should help revive it, but you may only get leaves, no tomatoes -- I make that mistake once too. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-16 Thread OK Don
Good point - maybe it's carnivore waste? On 7/16/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:20:45 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is generally considered in poor taste (pun intended) to use any mammalian waste product in compost that you are going

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-16 Thread Peter Frederick
In order of preference: Horse (hot composted, else it's full of seeds) Sheep/goat Cow. Cow manure is sloppy and low in humus forming material, sheep/goat is better, being drier and a bit higher in humic materials. Horse is lower in plant nutrients, but vastly better for soil building

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-16 Thread Peter Frederick
Correct me, too -- only the chicken manure isn't mammalian (being avian, if you want to split that hair). Pig poop is too much like human poop, likely to carry pathogens. Works fine if properly handled (the usual digestion process will clean it up nicely, but who the stink!) Ditto for cat

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]

2007-07-16 Thread Luther
Wow, you know your feces! Luther On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:56:30 -0500, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order of preference: Horse (hot composted, else it's full of seeds) Sheep/goat Cow. Cow manure is sloppy and low in humus forming material, sheep/goat is better, being