Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
On Fri, Jan 19, 2024, at 14:52, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 14:08:54 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > >> A shop-vac will provide more than enough vacuum to do the job. > > Yes. > > And if you use a plastic container the warm oil will soften it ... That's a big shop-vac. But yes, that will definitely happen. Years ago I had a little oil drain tray that had threaded flanges for standard two-liter soda bottles. Seemed like a neat idea, drain the oil neatly into the bottles for disposal, but if you drained the oil when it was hot (as one should) the soda bottles would just shrivel up like raisins. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
> AC pump will work, but it's low volume (slow) and high power (anything > less substantial than a BBQ propane tank and the pump can suck it flat > if there's a blockage). You don't need a high vacuum to extract oil. Just need the pressure in the tank to be lower than ambient air pressure. If you use a real vacuum pump you might want to include some sort of regulator that will limit the vacuum so your container doesn't collapse. A shop-vac will provide more than enough vacuum to do the job. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
On 2024-01-19 13:57, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Is a vacuum pump (marketed for AC use) substantial enough? I have one of those already and it might sway me to do a DIY one to start with. AC pump will work, but it's low volume (slow) and high power (anything less substantial than a BBQ propane tank and the pump can suck it flat if there's a blockage). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
> Is a vacuum pump (marketed for AC use) substantial enough? I have one of > those already and it might sway me to do a DIY one to start with. I had always thought it should, but I don't know. Be the first to find out! Make sure your chosen reservoir can survive a substantial vacuum. My first one did not. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
Is a vacuum pump (marketed for AC use) substantial enough? I have one of those already and it might sway me to do a DIY one to start with. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > I will say that in deference to you and Floyd, it would be simple to > construct a DIY solution, I just preferred to have a turnkey solution, that’s > all. But I totally understand the do-it-yourself approach and highly approve! > > -D > >> On Jan 19, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I already had an industrial pressure/vacuum pump combo, meant to operate >> pneumatic >> medical machinery. I combined it with a metal kerosene can, round and with >> a domed >> bottom so it doesn't collapse under vacuum. That and a few fittings and >> some tubing, >> and the usual shop air hose, and I'm set. >> >> I suspect that I could easily use my AC vacuum pump instead, but I already >> had >> the other thing, and it's a higher-volume pump. (And not as strong.) >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
I will say that in deference to you and Floyd, it would be simple to construct a DIY solution, I just preferred to have a turnkey solution, that’s all. But I totally understand the do-it-yourself approach and highly approve! -D > On Jan 19, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > I already had an industrial pressure/vacuum pump combo, meant to operate > pneumatic > medical machinery. I combined it with a metal kerosene can, round and with a > domed > bottom so it doesn't collapse under vacuum. That and a few fittings and some > tubing, > and the usual shop air hose, and I'm set. > > I suspect that I could easily use my AC vacuum pump instead, but I already had > the other thing, and it's a higher-volume pump. (And not as strong.) > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
I already had an industrial pressure/vacuum pump combo, meant to operate pneumatic medical machinery. I combined it with a metal kerosene can, round and with a domed bottom so it doesn't collapse under vacuum. That and a few fittings and some tubing, and the usual shop air hose, and I'm set. I suspect that I could easily use my AC vacuum pump instead, but I already had the other thing, and it's a higher-volume pump. (And not as strong.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
The decent choices are not cheap, but if you go cheap you’ll be disappointed. Cheap (<$100): Topsider. The classic vacuum pump oil sucker, it’s bulky and kludgy to use, but simple. The crimped seams tend to leak if you store the oil in it for very long. Mid-priced (~$100): MityVac and Chinese knockoffs. Commonly used, works fine, but not substantial in that it has a lot of plastic parts and isn’t terribly heavy duty. Expensive ($150-up): Harbor Freight has a good, solidly-built oil extractor. You can go up the scale to a John Dow brand extractor, too, if you want additional features. I have owned and used all of these over the years except for the MityVac. I currently have two of the Harbor Freight extractors, which, in my experience, have been the best. Yes, they’re not cheap, but they’re pretty indestructible and they hold six gallons of fluid, which is also nice. If there was a negative for this one, it would be the size and having to use another means to transport the waste oil. However, there’s no reason why you couldn’t transport the whole thing if you wanted. That, and with the others I transported the oil in alternate containers anyway. The MityVac seems nice, but I’ve heard a lot of complaint from people about it being flimsy along with issues with the line fittings sealing well. I bought my first oil extractor (Topsider) in 1988. I’ve migrated to the HF model after all those years of trying to find the best solution. -D > On Jan 18, 2024, at 6:57 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yeah….I always forget about the suckers. > I suppose I’ll get one. I’m kinda tired of climbing under cars anyway. > I’m sure we have beat this horse, but who has their favorites? > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 18, 2024, at 4:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> No thanks. You are introducing a potential failure point. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jan 18, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> This thing? I've heard they work well. I've never tried one. >>> >>> https://www.fumotousa.com/cars-pickups-mercedes-benz-2004-ml350-3-7l-v6 >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: January 18, 2024 5:28 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com >>> Subject: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163 >>> >>> Even though the seller said on purchase day that the oil had recently been >>> changed, I figured I’d change it, post long trip, and I’d have a baseline. >>> As I looked at the drain plug orientation I saw that the odds were great >>> that the oil would drain out and get on front end parts and stuff. Long >>> story short, I was right. >>> I know on my Dodge my dad had a quarter turn lockable handled spigot >>> installed (instead of the drain plug) that directed the oil downward vice >>> jetting out onto stuff. >>> Is there a know lockable handle spigot thingie that anyone has used in this >>> application? >>> >>> AZBob >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
I use a topside oil sucker from Harbor Freight. Will never go back to draining oil from the bottom, unless the pan geometry requires it. On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 18:27, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > Even though the seller said on purchase day that the oil had recently > been changed, I figured I’d change it, post long trip, and I’d have a > baseline. > As I looked at the drain plug orientation I saw that the odds were > great that the oil would drain out and get on front end parts and > stuff. Long story short, I was right. > I know on my Dodge my dad had a quarter turn lockable handled spigot > installed (instead of the drain plug) that directed the oil downward > vice jetting out onto stuff. > Is there a know lockable handle spigot thingie that anyone has used in > this application? > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
I have a refrigerant tank with a barb fitting to which the sucker hose attaches, and a hole drilled in it that a 1.25” (?) vac hose goes in and fits tightly. At the time I made the original using a plastic gas can the barb and hose was $2, now maybe $5. Get the oil warm, stick the sucker hose in the dipstick tube (assuming it has one, get a hose that fits tightly), stick the vac hose in the hole, turn on vac, go have a beer or two. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 18, 2024, at 6:57 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yeah….I always forget about the suckers. > I suppose I’ll get one. I’m kinda tired of climbing under cars anyway. > I’m sure we have beat this horse, but who has their favorites? > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 18, 2024, at 4:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> No thanks. You are introducing a potential failure point. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jan 18, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> This thing? I've heard they work well. I've never tried one. >>> >>> https://www.fumotousa.com/cars-pickups-mercedes-benz-2004-ml350-3-7l-v6 >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: January 18, 2024 5:28 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com >>> Subject: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163 >>> >>> Even though the seller said on purchase day that the oil had recently been >>> changed, I figured I’d change it, post long trip, and I’d have a baseline. >>> As I looked at the drain plug orientation I saw that the odds were great >>> that the oil would drain out and get on front end parts and stuff. Long >>> story short, I was right. >>> I know on my Dodge my dad had a quarter turn lockable handled spigot >>> installed (instead of the drain plug) that directed the oil downward vice >>> jetting out onto stuff. >>> Is there a know lockable handle spigot thingie that anyone has used in this >>> application? >>> >>> AZBob >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
Yeah….I always forget about the suckers. I suppose I’ll get one. I’m kinda tired of climbing under cars anyway. I’m sure we have beat this horse, but who has their favorites? AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2024, at 4:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > No thanks. You are introducing a potential failure point. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 18, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> This thing? I've heard they work well. I've never tried one. >> >> https://www.fumotousa.com/cars-pickups-mercedes-benz-2004-ml350-3-7l-v6 >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: January 18, 2024 5:28 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com >> Subject: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163 >> >> Even though the seller said on purchase day that the oil had recently been >> changed, I figured I’d change it, post long trip, and I’d have a baseline. >> As I looked at the drain plug orientation I saw that the odds were great >> that the oil would drain out and get on front end parts and stuff. Long >> story short, I was right. >> I know on my Dodge my dad had a quarter turn lockable handled spigot >> installed (instead of the drain plug) that directed the oil downward vice >> jetting out onto stuff. >> Is there a know lockable handle spigot thingie that anyone has used in this >> application? >> >> AZBob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
No thanks. You are introducing a potential failure point. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > This thing? I've heard they work well. I've never tried one. > > https://www.fumotousa.com/cars-pickups-mercedes-benz-2004-ml350-3-7l-v6 > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: January 18, 2024 5:28 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: azbob...@gmail.com > Subject: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163 > > Even though the seller said on purchase day that the oil had recently been > changed, I figured I’d change it, post long trip, and I’d have a baseline. > As I looked at the drain plug orientation I saw that the odds were great that > the oil would drain out and get on front end parts and stuff. Long story > short, I was right. > I know on my Dodge my dad had a quarter turn lockable handled spigot > installed (instead of the drain plug) that directed the oil downward vice > jetting out onto stuff. > Is there a know lockable handle spigot thingie that anyone has used in this > application? > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
This thing? I've heard they work well. I've never tried one. https://www.fumotousa.com/cars-pickups-mercedes-benz-2004-ml350-3-7l-v6 Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 18, 2024 5:28 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: azbob...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163 Even though the seller said on purchase day that the oil had recently been changed, I figured I’d change it, post long trip, and I’d have a baseline. As I looked at the drain plug orientation I saw that the odds were great that the oil would drain out and get on front end parts and stuff. Long story short, I was right. I know on my Dodge my dad had a quarter turn lockable handled spigot installed (instead of the drain plug) that directed the oil downward vice jetting out onto stuff. Is there a know lockable handle spigot thingie that anyone has used in this application? AZBob Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163
Go to HF or Amazon and buying a sucker to suck it out the dipstick. Much much easier. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Even though the seller said on purchase day that the oil had recently been > changed, I figured I’d change it, post long trip, and I’d have a baseline. > As I looked at the drain plug orientation I saw that the odds were great that > the oil would drain out and get on front end parts and stuff. Long story > short, I was right. > I know on my Dodge my dad had a quarter turn lockable handled spigot > installed (instead of the drain plug) that directed the oil downward vice > jetting out onto stuff. > Is there a know lockable handle spigot thingie that anyone has used in this > application? > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] changing oil
Yup. Except it was a 63 Impala with the 283. A real mess. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 9:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] changing oil Curly wrote: Yup! Something I don't miss. on my 200D someone had exchanged the orig oil filter with a 190Dc oil filter housing that is larger. To change the filter you have to jack it up, turn the wheels far left, take out the bolt with a stubby 8mm allen socket, turn wheels far right, take out the filter and bypass element. clean the filter, put in a new bypass element then turn the wheels far left again to tighten the bolt. Does anyone remember doing oil/filter change for '65 chevy 283 c.i.d? That was a mess also. About like the W123 240D except that the whole outside canister came down full of oil including filter element, after loosening the center bolt - just like the OM616 except the OM616 is on top of the engine and the top of the canister comes off, oil drains out the bottom. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] changing oil
Mine has a dent and I plan on replacing it with a new pan and gasket. How much of a PIA would this be for my W123 wagon? On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:12 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Randy, I need to pull the oil pan because somebody back in time decided to fix the pan leak with blue RTV between the aged original gasket. I am not looking forward to that . It was a massive pain in the tush with Gump. clay On Apr 29, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: One of the things that are not so much fun on a 115. It all went pretty well but I sure can use up rags, paper towel and blue gloves. The oil is so much stickier and blacker than the oil out of my truck. Difficult to wipe things like the filter housing clean. I envy you folks with the filter up top. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] changing oil
You just push hard - it will slip out of the spring with enough force, and go back in once you've installed the new washer. On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, come on you former 115 owners, how do I get the oil filter cannister bolt out of it so I can change the washer? RB -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] changing oil
So, come on you former 115 owners, how do I get the oil filter cannister bolt out of it so I can change the washer? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mine has a dent and I plan on replacing it with a new pan and gasket. How much of a PIA would this be for my W123 wagon? Lower pan: Easy upper pan: pull the engine, or drop the subframe or raise the engine substantially, maybe you don't have to unhook everything. OK Don did this on his SDL. On a manual trans, I'd pull the engine for sure. it is easier than the other jacking around. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] changing oil
One of the things that are not so much fun on a 115. It all went pretty well but I sure can use up rags, paper towel and blue gloves. The oil is so much stickier and blacker than the oil out of my truck. Difficult to wipe things like the filter housing clean. I envy you folks with the filter up top. RB Yup! Something I don't miss. on my 200D someone had exchanged the orig oil filter with a 190Dc oil filter housing that is larger. To change the filter you have to jack it up, turn the wheels far left, take out the bolt with a stubby 8mm allen socket, turn wheels far right, take out the filter and bypass element. clean the filter, put in a new bypass element then turn the wheels far left again to tighten the bolt. All the while warm or hot oil is running down to your elbows. My son's 200D 2.4 has the OM616 oil filter mounted remote, behind the L headlight. Nice! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curly wrote: Yup! Something I don't miss. on my 200D someone had exchanged the orig oil filter with a 190Dc oil filter housing that is larger. To change the filter you have to jack it up, turn the wheels far left, take out the bolt with a stubby 8mm allen socket, turn wheels far right, take out the filter and bypass element. clean the filter, put in a new bypass element then turn the wheels far left again to tighten the bolt. Does anyone remember doing oil/filter change for '65 chevy 283 c.i.d? That was a mess also. About like the W123 240D except that the whole outside canister came down full of oil including filter element, after loosening the center bolt - just like the OM616 except the OM616 is on top of the engine and the top of the canister comes off, oil drains out the bottom. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] changing oil
Randy, I need to pull the oil pan because somebody back in time decided to fix the pan leak with blue RTV between the aged original gasket. I am not looking forward to that . It was a massive pain in the tush with Gump. clay On Apr 29, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: One of the things that are not so much fun on a 115. It all went pretty well but I sure can use up rags, paper towel and blue gloves. The oil is so much stickier and blacker than the oil out of my truck. Difficult to wipe things like the filter housing clean. I envy you folks with the filter up top. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] changing oil.
I was really surprised how thick conventional 10w40 is at 12F when I was changing my motorcycle oil last weekend. Took FOREVER to flow from through the funnel into the engine, thank goodness I only needed to move 3 quarts. In the spring I'll put in 15w50 Mobil 1 as I too am worried about having enough ZDP but it wasn't available at the place I stopped last week so I took what I could get. -Curt Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:50:37 -0600 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] changing oil. To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey, want to knowwhat 20/50 looks like, even after driving and warming for 25 mins?? Pretty much like the stuff you put on your pancakes in the morning, only thicker. That would be why NEARLY everyone on this list STRONGLY recommends using Mobil 1 SYNTHETIC oil. Take a quart of Rotella dino and a quart of the thickest Mobil 1 (15w-50). Put the on the porch or the freezer (which ever is colder) overnight and see which one pours better. THEN decide which you want in YOUR crankcase! Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT /Marshall Mode - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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E M wrote: I'm out there, pitch black, -20F, rolling around on the ground draining the oil. I forget what the minimum temp was in my 16v operator's manual for dino 15W40, but it's a positive number on the F scale. Maybe 4 degrees? I went out on the freeway and got the oil temp gauge almost to 80 degrees, and then had to wait ten minutes for a train, less than two miles from home. Oil must have been no more than 60C when I drained it, but it ran out nicely. I put in 15W50 M1, figuring it would flow at any temp I'd want to drive the car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] changing oil.
Hey, want to knowwhat 20/50 looks like, even after driving and warming for 25 mins?? Pretty much like the stuff you put on your pancakes in the morning, only thicker. That would be why NEARLY everyone on this list STRONGLY recommends using Mobil 1 SYNTHETIC oil. Take a quart of Rotella dino and a quart of the thickest Mobil 1 (15w-50). Put the on the porch or the freezer (which ever is colder) overnight and see which one pours better. THEN decide which you want in YOUR crankcase! Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT /Marshall Mode ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi, My daughter's '82 300sd 122k with Ben's valve adjustment and 350 miles on fresh 15/40 Rotella T started as directed by this board's system at 18F! All were tightly lashed and 2 intakes were opened. $105.00 with Gasket. Spins a bit slower, but fires off. A faster car also. Not as shaky??? Idle. Ed in Chicago 18F E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok everyone, oil change time. Time to go with the thinner stuff in the gasser. So, I opted for the Rotella 15/40 dino stuff. Made some calls, listened to the oil threads here, and went with the diesel oil as it has the higher zinc. We'll see how it goes. Think of me and my car as a real work experiment. hee hee. Anyway, just so you know I'm one of the gang, even without a diesel, don't mind getting my hands dirty. I'm out there, pitch black, -20F, rolling around on the ground draining the oil. Yeah, no of that easy way out, sucking it from the top stuff, I'm on the ground rolling round. Tools are so cold, they stick to bare flesh. lol. Hey, want to know what 20/50 looks like, even after driving and warming for 25 mins?? Pretty much like the stuff you put on your pancakes in the morning, only thicker. :-) Just leaving it for the last to drain out now, and going to do a plug change while waiting. Ok, so I wimped out a little, I gapped them indoors on my workbench. Now that I'm on a roll, they call for the valves on the porsche to be adjusted cold. I wonder by cold, if they mean -20F ? Ok, I can almost feel my fingers again, so time to head out. I'll give you the full report later. Ed' 300E 356,000 kms. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As I'm still cleaning out the engine and dumping the oil every 2000 kms, M1 at $7.50 per litre is little pricey. Once things look cleaner, I may switch over, but the old gasser's done well on dino, making it to 356,000 kms, and probably getting the best care it's even had in it's life now, that it's in my hands. :-) Ed 300E On 05/12/2007, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, want to knowwhat 20/50 looks like, even after driving and warming for 25 mins?? Pretty much like the stuff you put on your pancakes in the morning, only thicker. That would be why NEARLY everyone on this list STRONGLY recommends using Mobil 1 SYNTHETIC oil. Take a quart of Rotella dino and a quart of the thickest Mobil 1 (15w-50). Put the on the porch or the freezer (which ever is colder) overnight and see which one pours better. THEN decide which you want in YOUR crankcase! Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT /Marshall Mode ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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think my manual says either a 10/40 or 15/40 dino can be used pretty much year round while getting down to down to some pretty cold temps, as long as it doesnt' get too hot. Here we have a big spread, going up to 40c in the summer and down to -35 some winter nights. Even with 20/50 and -22, it won't spin the engine more than twice before catching. Within 2-3 seconds, oil pressure is at 2.5-3 bar. We'll give it a season and see how it does. Ed 300E On 05/12/2007, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: I'm out there, pitch black, -20F, rolling around on the ground draining the oil. I forget what the minimum temp was in my 16v operator's manual for dino 15W40, but it's a positive number on the F scale. Maybe 4 degrees? I went out on the freeway and got the oil temp gauge almost to 80 degrees, and then had to wait ten minutes for a train, less than two miles from home. Oil must have been no more than 60C when I drained it, but it ran out nicely. I put in 15W50 M1, figuring it would flow at any temp I'd want to drive the car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
