Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread Loren Faeth
Did you by any chance bend one of the pulleys for the serpentine belt?  If 
so, that makes the belt jump and the tensioner rattle, even with a good 
tensioner shock.


At 12:21 PM 2/4/2006, you wrote:

Well nevermind my neverming, I just found the washer, it fell out when I
removed the tensioner.  It was there, just fell out.  Still rattles.
Tensioner doesnt seem to have any play really, is straight and not
cockeyed.  The shock seems to dampen.  At least its hard to push it in.
  Wondered about the spring.  Im wondering if its not keeping proper
tension.  As I said before, i removed the top bolt and tried prying it
back (to give it more tension), it seems to make a very small difference
but not that much.  That little bit I could pry it back might not be
enough though.  Guess I should put a new shock and spring on it and see
what it does.

OK Don wrote:

 What he said, and check that the shock is still functional -- no
 damping, lots of jumping about --

 On 2/4/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Kleb,
Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber
sleeve and result in too little tension.

Bob DuPuy


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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread Gary Hurst
there are no bad parts, but only bad installers. (or at least that is what
we say at bimby)

On 2/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well nevermind my neverming, I just found the washer, it fell out when I
 removed the tensioner.  It was there, just fell out.  Still rattles.
 Tensioner doesnt seem to have any play really, is straight and not
 cockeyed.  The shock seems to dampen.  At least its hard to push it in.
 Wondered about the spring.  Im wondering if its not keeping proper
 tension.  As I said before, i removed the top bolt and tried prying it
 back (to give it more tension), it seems to make a very small difference
 but not that much.  That little bit I could pry it back might not be
 enough though.  Guess I should put a new shock and spring on it and see
 what it does.

 OK Don wrote:

  What he said, and check that the shock is still functional -- no
  damping, lots of jumping about --
 
  On 2/4/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Kleb,
 Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its
 rubber
 sleeve and result in too little tension.
 
 Bob DuPuy
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

No, they are all straight, I did check that.

Loren Faeth wrote:

Did you by any chance bend one of the pulleys for the serpentine belt?  If 
so, that makes the belt jump and the tensioner rattle, even with a good 
tensioner shock.


At 12:21 PM 2/4/2006, you wrote:


Well nevermind my neverming, I just found the washer, it fell out when I
removed the tensioner.  It was there, just fell out.  Still rattles.
Tensioner doesnt seem to have any play really, is straight and not
cockeyed.  The shock seems to dampen.  At least its hard to push it in.
 Wondered about the spring.  Im wondering if its not keeping proper
tension.  As I said before, i removed the top bolt and tried prying it
back (to give it more tension), it seems to make a very small difference
but not that much.  That little bit I could pry it back might not be
enough though.  Guess I should put a new shock and spring on it and see
what it does.

OK Don wrote:



What he said, and check that the shock is still functional -- no
damping, lots of jumping about --

On 2/4/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Kleb,
Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber
sleeve and result in too little tension.

Bob DuPuy



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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread Jim Cathey

A perfect tensioner will make a racket if the shock or shock bushings
are bad, if the idler or idler bearing is bad or if one of the belt
driven accessories is binding.


OR if the main crank pulley is starting to come loose.  Happened
to our SDL, and made quite a racket with the (relatively) new
tensioner.  Later, both the 'new' tensioner bearing was shot,
and the tensioner spring broke.  No doubt to the heavy workout
both got while the crank pulley condition remained undiagnosed.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I should probably just replace the shock and the spring and see what it 
does.  It doesnt really move around alot just vibrates.  Im assuming the 
shock will have new bushings installed on it?


Marshall Booth wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week.  Seemed 
ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like 
a really worn out one does.  Belt also squeeks a little.  Did I get a 
bad on or do I need to look for something else??  If I pry against it 
while running it quiets down.  I tried unhooking the bolt for the  upper 
leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine 
was running and that didnt seem to make a difference.  This sucker is 
really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the 
tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I 
figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight.



A perfect tensioner will make a racket if the shock or shock bushings 
are bad, if the idler or idler bearing is bad or if one of the belt 
driven accessories is binding. Of course the tensioner fastening screw 
can come loose, the timing cover threads can strip or the tensioner 
bearings can fail. I've had ALL of those happen in just 7 different 
OM60x engines (with only a little more than a total of a million miles 
on them).


Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Got ya, that may be a possibility.  Seems the shock doesnt fit real 
tight in the tensioner.


Trampas wrote:


The rubber bushings that the bolts go through. I can not remember if the new
shock comes with them.

Trampas

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what rubber mounts?  Idler spins fine.

Trampas wrote:


Check the rubber mounts. This is what I have found rattles. 

Also spin idler to check for binding 


Trampas

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

Well nevermind my neverming, I just found the washer, it fell out when I 
removed the tensioner.  It was there, just fell out.  Still rattles. 
Tensioner doesnt seem to have any play really, is straight and not 
cockeyed.  The shock seems to dampen.  At least its hard to push it in. 
 Wondered about the spring.  Im wondering if its not keeping proper 
tension.  As I said before, i removed the top bolt and tried prying it 
back (to give it more tension), it seems to make a very small difference 
but not that much.  That little bit I could pry it back might not be 
enough though.  Guess I should put a new shock and spring on it and see 
what it does.


OK Don wrote:




What he said, and check that the shock is still functional -- no
damping, lots of jumping about --

On 2/4/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Kleb,
Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber
sleeve and result in too little tension.

Bob DuPuy



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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, it was within 30 min or removing old one.  Anyways, that was not the 
problem, the spacer was in fact there, just fell out.


John Berryman wrote:


On Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



nevermind, I figured out the problem.  The big washer thats supposed to
go between the tensioner and the block was missing.  I could have sworn
I installed it but its nowhere to be found.  Had to find another big
washer and grind the hole out a little so it would fit around the bold
of the tensioner.  Fixing to put it back together but that should do 
it.





	I was going to ask about the spacer. Let me guess you took it apart 
long before you put it back together?


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread l02turner

Kaleb -
Do the tensioners need to be filled with oil prior to use?  This is going 
back a long ways  - but when I rebuilt my W108 6 cylinder (gas) I replaced 
the TC damper and it required I fill it with oil  pump it numerous times to 
get the air out before installing it - IIRC.


Does the one you're working with require something like that?

Sincerely,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?



A perfect tensioner will make a racket if the shock or shock bushings
are bad, if the idler or idler bearing is bad or if one of the belt
driven accessories is binding.


OR if the main crank pulley is starting to come loose.  Happened
to our SDL, and made quite a racket with the (relatively) new
tensioner.  Later, both the 'new' tensioner bearing was shot,
and the tensioner spring broke.  No doubt to the heavy workout
both got while the crank pulley condition remained undiagnosed.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread Jim Cathey

Do the tensioners need to be filled with oil prior to use?


Those are _chain_ tensioners.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-05 Thread OK Don
No - the spring provides the tension --- -- -

On 2/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kaleb -
 Do the tensioners need to be filled with oil prior to use?  This is going
 back a long ways  - but when I rebuilt my W108 6 cylinder (gas) I replaced
 the TC damper and it required I fill it with oil  pump it numerous times to
 get the air out before installing it - IIRC.

 Does the one you're working with require something like that?

 Sincerely,
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 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?


  A perfect tensioner will make a racket if the shock or shock bushings
  are bad, if the idler or idler bearing is bad or if one of the belt
  driven accessories is binding.
 
  OR if the main crank pulley is starting to come loose.  Happened
  to our SDL, and made quite a racket with the (relatively) new
  tensioner.  Later, both the 'new' tensioner bearing was shot,
  and the tensioner spring broke.  No doubt to the heavy workout
  both got while the crank pulley condition remained undiagnosed.
 
  -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Sounds like it's cooked, at least the bearing is.  BTDT, I did not buy
the T-Shirt.
Change it before it goes FUBAR and takes something else with it.  I
once lost tha alternator front bearing because I didn't know what the
noise was ;-(.  
THAT was the only time I walked home!

Pete

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:48:01 -0600, you wrote:

Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week.  Seemed 
ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like 
a really worn out one does.  Belt also squeeks a little.  Did I get a 
bad on or do I need to look for something else??  If I pry against it 
while running it quiets down.  I tried unhooking the bolt for the  upper 
leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine 
was running and that didnt seem to make a difference.  This sucker is 
really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the 
tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I 
figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight.



Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
nevermind, I figured out the problem.  The big washer thats supposed to 
go between the tensioner and the block was missing.  I could have sworn 
I installed it but its nowhere to be found.  Had to find another big 
washer and grind the hole out a little so it would fit around the bold 
of the tensioner.  Fixing to put it back together but that should do it.


Peter T. Arnold wrote:


Sounds like it's cooked, at least the bearing is.  BTDT, I did not buy
the T-Shirt.
Change it before it goes FUBAR and takes something else with it.  I
once lost tha alternator front bearing because I didn't know what the
noise was ;-(.  
THAT was the only time I walked home!


Pete

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:48:01 -0600, you wrote:


Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week.  Seemed 
ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like 
a really worn out one does.  Belt also squeeks a little.  Did I get a 
bad on or do I need to look for something else??  If I pry against it 
while running it quiets down.  I tried unhooking the bolt for the  upper 
leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine 
was running and that didnt seem to make a difference.  This sucker is 
really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the 
tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I 
figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight.



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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread Bob DuPuy
Kleb,
Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber
sleeve and result in too little tension.

Bob DuPuy


On 2/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 nevermind, I figured out the problem.  The big washer thats supposed to
 go between the tensioner and the block was missing.  I could have sworn
 I installed it but its nowhere to be found.  Had to find another big
 washer and grind the hole out a little so it would fit around the bold
 of the tensioner.  Fixing to put it back together but that should do it.

 Peter T. Arnold wrote:

  Sounds like it's cooked, at least the bearing is.  BTDT, I did not buy
  the T-Shirt.
  Change it before it goes FUBAR and takes something else with it.  I
  once lost tha alternator front bearing because I didn't know what the
  noise was ;-(.
  THAT was the only time I walked home!
 
  Pete
 
  On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:48:01 -0600, you wrote:
 
 
 Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week.  Seemed
 ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like
 a really worn out one does.  Belt also squeeks a little.  Did I get a
 bad on or do I need to look for something else??  If I pry against it
 while running it quiets down.  I tried unhooking the bolt for the  upper
 leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine
 was running and that didnt seem to make a difference.  This sucker is
 really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the
 tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I
 figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread OK Don
What he said, and check that the shock is still functional -- no
damping, lots of jumping about --

On 2/4/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kleb,
 Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber
 sleeve and result in too little tension.

 Bob DuPuy

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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week.  Seemed 
ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like 
a really worn out one does.  Belt also squeeks a little.  Did I get a 
bad on or do I need to look for something else??  If I pry against it 
while running it quiets down.  I tried unhooking the bolt for the  upper 
leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine 
was running and that didnt seem to make a difference.  This sucker is 
really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the 
tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I 
figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight.


A perfect tensioner will make a racket if the shock or shock bushings 
are bad, if the idler or idler bearing is bad or if one of the belt 
driven accessories is binding. Of course the tensioner fastening screw 
can come loose, the timing cover threads can strip or the tensioner 
bearings can fail. I've had ALL of those happen in just 7 different 
OM60x engines (with only a little more than a total of a million miles 
on them).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread Trampas
The rubber bushings that the bolts go through. I can not remember if the new
shock comes with them.

Trampas

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what rubber mounts?  Idler spins fine.

Trampas wrote:

 Check the rubber mounts. This is what I have found rattles. 
 
 Also spin idler to check for binding 
 
 Trampas
 
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 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:21 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
 
 Well nevermind my neverming, I just found the washer, it fell out when I 
 removed the tensioner.  It was there, just fell out.  Still rattles. 
 Tensioner doesnt seem to have any play really, is straight and not 
 cockeyed.  The shock seems to dampen.  At least its hard to push it in. 
   Wondered about the spring.  Im wondering if its not keeping proper 
 tension.  As I said before, i removed the top bolt and tried prying it 
 back (to give it more tension), it seems to make a very small difference 
 but not that much.  That little bit I could pry it back might not be 
 enough though.  Guess I should put a new shock and spring on it and see 
 what it does.
 
 OK Don wrote:
 
 
What he said, and check that the shock is still functional -- no
damping, lots of jumping about --

On 2/4/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Kleb,
Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber
sleeve and result in too little tension.

Bob DuPuy


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Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


nevermind, I figured out the problem.  The big washer thats supposed to
go between the tensioner and the block was missing.  I could have sworn
I installed it but its nowhere to be found.  Had to find another big
washer and grind the hole out a little so it would fit around the bold
of the tensioner.  Fixing to put it back together but that should do 
it.




	I was going to ask about the spacer. Let me guess you took it apart 
long before you put it back together?


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 01:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Well nevermind my neverming, I just found the washer, it fell out when 
I

removed the tensioner.  It was there, just fell out.  Still rattles.
Tensioner doesnt seem to have any play really, is straight and not
cockeyed.  The shock seems to dampen.  At least its hard to push it in.
  Wondered about the spring.  Im wondering if its not keeping proper
tension.  As I said before, i removed the top bolt and tried prying it
back (to give it more tension), it seems to make a very small 
difference

but not that much.  That little bit I could pry it back might not be
enough though.  Guess I should put a new shock and spring on it and see
what it does.



	Check everything that the belt drives, could have a bad bearing in any 
of it.


	FWIW The water pump on my wife's Jeep started pissing like a racehorse 
yesterday, never made a peep. When I changed it today the bearing was 
so bad the impeller ate into the housing  about 3/8. It was quiet as a 
church mouse when I pulled it in to work on it this morning.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?

2006-02-04 Thread John Berryman


On Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 02:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


what rubber mounts?  Idler spins fine.



I'll guess he means the shock bushings.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am