Re: [MBZ] eBay sucks
i don't see you getting the car. i'd contact ebay and see what they say about this. do you live nearby? ebay contends that their deals are valid contracts so why not avail youself of the local courts to cause this guy some difficulty? On Jan 24, 2008 1:05 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I know the issue is getting some money back for paying for the CarFax, and the annoyance of dealing with a guy like this, but on the bright side, at almost $10,000, another one will come along soon. Ed 300E On 24/01/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see you getting the car. i'd contact ebay and see what they say about this. do you live nearby? ebay contends that their deals are valid contracts so why not avail youself of the local courts to cause this guy some difficulty? On Jan 24, 2008 1:05 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I like the Port-A-Potty in the front yard. I guess the ones inside don't work so well? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay sucks I know the issue is getting some money back for paying for the CarFax, and the annoyance of dealing with a guy like this, but on the bright side, at almost $10,000, another one will come along soon. Ed 300E On 24/01/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see you getting the car. i'd contact ebay and see what they say about this. do you live nearby? ebay contends that their deals are valid contracts so why not avail youself of the local courts to cause this guy some difficulty? On Jan 24, 2008 1:05 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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at almost $10,000, another one will come along soon. Actually no - I've been looking for one with the Stability Control option on Ebay and Craig's List for the last 15 months. This was the first. It may be quite a while until another comes along. I'm in Ohio. Car is in New York. -Dave Walton On Jan 24, 2008 1:18 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the issue is getting some money back for paying for the CarFax, and the annoyance of dealing with a guy like this, but on the bright side, at almost $10,000, another one will come along soon. Ed 300E On 24/01/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see you getting the car. i'd contact ebay and see what they say about this. do you live nearby? ebay contends that their deals are valid contracts so why not avail youself of the local courts to cause this guy some difficulty? On Jan 24, 2008 1:05 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've seen cars listed on ebay with an also for sale locally/subject to prior sale disclaimer. If that was not in the listing I'd be annoyed, but probably would not take it any farther than leaving negative feedback. Allan dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's too bad you lost of the exact car you were looking for. Here, those prices are what, or even a little more than what a indie dealer would charge. Have you gone around to dealers in your city as told the dealers to keep an eye out for what you're looking for? I got tired of looking at so called mint cars from CL, so just told them to watch for what I want and call me when they see it. I got a few calls and it got me much closer to what I'm looking for, without all the running around. Ed 300E On 24/01/2008, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at almost $10,000, another one will come along soon. Actually no - I've been looking for one with the Stability Control option on Ebay and Craig's List for the last 15 months. This was the first. It may be quite a while until another comes along. I'm in Ohio. Car is in New York. -Dave Walton On Jan 24, 2008 1:18 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the issue is getting some money back for paying for the CarFax, and the annoyance of dealing with a guy like this, but on the bright side, at almost $10,000, another one will come along soon. Ed 300E On 24/01/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see you getting the car. i'd contact ebay and see what they say about this. do you live nearby? ebay contends that their deals are valid contracts so why not avail youself of the local courts to cause this guy some difficulty? On Jan 24, 2008 1:05 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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dave walton wrote: I'm in Ohio. Car is in New York. Maybe Sunil could hook you up with something. Seems like he's got a friend at the Columbus dealership and can get older cars somewhat near trade-in. If you are in NW Ohio and willing to travel a bit, I can give you the name of a used car dealer who goes to 2-3 auctions a week and you can have him call you when he sees what you want. He charges $500 over his cost. IIRC you pay MI taxes (6%) which are applied to your Ohio use tax when you title it in OHio. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you need a back seat with that? http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CI5420290 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nice car, but Stability Control was not offered as an option prior to 1999. Yep, need back seat. Thanks -Dave Walton On Jan 24, 2008 2:01 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you need a back seat with that? http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CI5420290 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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dave walton wrote: Nice car, but Stability Control was not offered as an option prior to 1999. Yep, need back seat. I wonder what would happen if you put a want ad in the Star? Should increase your odds of finding a well kept car that isn't owned by a jackass. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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EBay doesn't suck, some eBay sellers suck. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/24/08 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: [MBZ] eBay sucks So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagena me=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1241 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 9:58 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That price looks pretty good based on prices I see on Craigs List - there are 2 S500s here - one is a '01 S500 at $18k firm and also a '02 S500 for $21999. Don't know about all the options but MB tends to come pretty well loaded. Maybe there's another one out there for you. I suspect the only recourse you have is reporting them to eBay - since the warning saysa bid is a contract to buy whatever I would hope the contract works both ways - Sometimes people are pricks - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] eBay sucks So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I checked Craigslist in NYC and there are several S500s in the mid to late 90s for $8200 to mid teens - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] eBay sucks So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You can file a complaint on ebay against him and leave him negative feedback but wont do much and will probably cause him to leave neg on you too. dave walton wrote: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That just means the auction could end early. If the auction completes and you are the winner, its a contract. Allan Streib wrote: I've seen cars listed on ebay with an also for sale locally/subject to prior sale disclaimer. If that was not in the listing I'd be annoyed, but probably would not take it any farther than leaving negative feedback. Allan dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton Reading the ad the guy sez that its relisted b/c original winner couldn't execute quickly, implying that that person is some kind of jerk for not playing fair and THEN sells it out from under you as the high bidder? Bogus. I'd guess there are ways to make this more difficult for the seller, but would probably be twice the hassle for you and that in the end negative feedback is all you've got. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd guess there are ways to make this more difficult for the seller, but would probably be twice the hassle for you and that in the end negative feedback is all you've got. My take: at least he refunded your deposit without any fuss. It's probably a blessing in disguise, based on his behavior the car more than likely was misrepresented in the listing anyway. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When I was in college, I drove cars to/from auctions for cash. There were weekly ones in Manheim and Butler, Pa. Man, you never saw so many sharks in one place! A real feeding frenzy. Those crooks would do anything to a car and say anything they could make up to get it to sell. At the time, the going rate for clock work was $50 per car. They brought your car back in 20 minutes with whatever mileage you wanted showing on the odometer. I've had better luck buying from people that make an honest living. -Dave Walton On Jan 24, 2008 1:47 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: I'm in Ohio. Car is in New York. Maybe Sunil could hook you up with something. Seems like he's got a friend at the Columbus dealership and can get older cars somewhat near trade-in. If you are in NW Ohio and willing to travel a bit, I can give you the name of a used car dealer who goes to 2-3 auctions a week and you can have him call you when he sees what you want. He charges $500 over his cost. IIRC you pay MI taxes (6%) which are applied to your Ohio use tax when you title it in OHio. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton Over turn the porta crapper in his front yard with him in it. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rick Knoble wrote: Over turn the porta crapper in his front yard with him in it. Only if you make it land on the door. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Serves you right for wanting to be a snob :-) Ooooh a 126 or 124 is not good enough, or heaven forbid a C class :-) Anyway, there is a paragraph on that auction about this being a contract.blah blah blah However in the real world ebay don't care about anything but their commission and about all you can really do is leave negative feedback. How much do you think you have lost by this deal not going through? Is it worth kicking up a stink? I suppose you can write to the seller demanding compensation and start making noises about lawyers and such, maybe you'll get lucky. But don't leave negative feedback until the seller has told you to take a long walk on a short jetty, or words to that effect. Once you dump negative feedback, the relationship will have soured somewhat. If it makes you feel any better, something like S500 would cost well over AU$30,000 over here unless it was in really bad shape. Hendrik who hates ebay but loves a bargain dave walton wrote: So I've been looking for a 1999 S500 for my wife and I win the bid on one yesterday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=018sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AITviewitem=item=280192872719rd=1 I pay for a CarFax - It's clean, so I PayPal the guy $500 for a deposit and email the guy to set up a time to go get it. He emails back a bit later saying he sold the car to someone else and refunds my deposit. I'm way pissed. Do I have any recourse? -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay sucks
Yes but is it possible to wind back a digital odometer? I know the 123's are pretty easy to do, that's why it pays to look for service history. Hendrik dave walton wrote: When I was in college, I drove cars to/from auctions for cash. There were weekly ones in Manheim and Butler, Pa. Man, you never saw so many sharks in one place! A real feeding frenzy. Those crooks would do anything to a car and say anything they could make up to get it to sell. At the time, the going rate for clock work was $50 per car. They brought your car back in 20 minutes with whatever mileage you wanted showing on the odometer. I've had better luck buying from people that make an honest living. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay sucks
Well, thinking it through again, yes when the hammer drops you have the right to purchase that car for that price. You do not own the car as such but entered into a contact to purchase that car, I suppose it could be argued that the seller now has to produce a equivalent S500 for 10K, or you could sue him for the difference in price when you buy another similar one. But like I said earlier is it worth the hassle and you will need legal advice in this regard and you would need to get a NY lawyer and not an Ohio lawyer, unless this is covered under federal law. Guess someone came along with more than 10K for it and the seller conveniently forgot about the legally binding contract part. One of the problems I see with taking something like this to court is that the judge might see this as trivial and view you as wasting his/her time and as such go against you. That is the problem with judges, you can get some good ones or you can get some real idiots. My sister recently had a court action with her ex over a couple of properties in Sydney and the judge said in so many words that this matter was trivial, a couple of properties worth AU$500,000 may seem trivial to a fat cat judge but to us little people that is a big deal. Even though my sister provided thorough documentation that her ex contributed less than 10% towards the mortgage payments he still 50%. Basically the judge was not interested in the facts and applied the standard. Unfortunately the law is made by the rich for the rich. Don't believe the BS about the law being equal and fair. Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That just means the auction could end early. If the auction completes and you are the winner, its a contract. Allan Streib wrote: I've seen cars listed on ebay with an also for sale locally/subject to prior sale disclaimer. If that was not in the listing I'd be annoyed, but probably would not take it any farther than leaving negative feedback. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay sucks
Back then, they did not have digital anything. I think maybe the digital clock had come out. The ones with painted numbers that flipped over - that was shortly after the invention of the Wheel. -Dave Walton On Jan 24, 2008 7:39 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes but is it possible to wind back a digital odometer? I know the 123's are pretty easy to do, that's why it pays to look for service history. Hendrik dave walton wrote: When I was in college, I drove cars to/from auctions for cash. There were weekly ones in Manheim and Butler, Pa. Man, you never saw so many sharks in one place! A real feeding frenzy. Those crooks would do anything to a car and say anything they could make up to get it to sell. At the time, the going rate for clock work was $50 per car. They brought your car back in 20 minutes with whatever mileage you wanted showing on the odometer. I've had better luck buying from people that make an honest living. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eBay sucks
On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Yes but is it possible to wind back a digital odometer? I asked that question a while back and the answer was basically yes, if you know what you are doing you can program in any number you want. In some respects maybe easier to pull off than tampering with a mechanical odo without leaving any traces. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
