Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
AS 240D with a new filter isn't much better! I know, I just got back from a 60 mile round trip in mine. I think it is just about time for an S-Class diesel. On 1/1/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 240D with a bad filter is a DRAG. -Curt -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
You're on your own. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery this one does have an o2 sensor. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Hopefully yes but don't get too excited, if you where talking diesel engine I would agree but seeing as this is not.. Anyway keep us up to date. Also I think round about 1985 the change over to KE started, the KE systems have an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system and a pile more electrical crap. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The linkage all moves fine. The filter has not been changed so its probably about 90% sure to be the problem. Thats the first step for sure. Its CIS/K I think, but not sure. And yes, the sensor plate feels just like its supposed to. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Couple of links to help you determine what you have created http://www.boschautoparts.co.uk/pcPetr11.asp?c=2d=1 http://covintechnical.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tech_2.htm http://www.aicautosite.com/garage/encyclop/ency07c.asp Hendrik - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery You're on your own. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery this one does have an o2 sensor. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Hopefully yes but don't get too excited, if you where talking diesel engine I would agree but seeing as this is not.. Anyway keep us up to date. Also I think round about 1985 the change over to KE started, the KE systems have an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system and a pile more electrical crap. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The linkage all moves fine. The filter has not been changed so its probably about 90% sure to be the problem. Thats the first step for sure. Its CIS/K I think, but not sure. And yes, the sensor plate feels just like its supposed to. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Yes a reduction in power but without load the motor will still go to the redline, that's about 1500rpm in a 240D isn't it? 5100 is closer. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Yeah well, just be glad the filter isn't plugged, it can get ALOT worse, and you could be really late and trying to hurry, and traffic could be very heavy and it could be real hot and... -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 01:00:15 + From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 AS 240D with a new filter isn't much better! I know, I just got back from a 60 mile round trip in mine. I think it is just about time for an S-Class diesel. On 1/1/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 240D with a bad filter is a DRAG. -Curt -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 02 17:56:50 2006 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.198]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EtTvO-0006Y0-B9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:56:50 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so1828496wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 09:56:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EWXrmzolWuynfcjYCd2vPqRPr1cSCJF/FFIRDOYtkXyU/wO1Ja/XidQodU6bJLFqOFCI8SW2RxbvtSZgkw8dMJJimKhmEm0OrGO9g6001Sm7iebByZzkOHwSyr2gw+qRobF9G3AkBseGOWH7LEt3V4GXyiZ+UlLcGRtHjitgr20= Received: by 10.70.74.3 with SMTP id w3mr12715901wxa; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 09:56:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.123.14 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:56:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:56:48 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 17:56:58 - Perhaps those Finnish cars are not being licensed and driven on the streets - just old runwyas, race tracks, etc. On 1/2/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Think about this. In Germany there are no Junkyards. Older cars that do n= ot pass the inspection (TUeV), which includes body, suspension, oil leaks and emissions, and can not repaired at reasonable cost are being scrapped, I mean shredded, and the owner pays a fee. On 1/2/06, V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Europe tends to have higher regs and more taxes for older cars, which makes me glad to be a car enthusiast guy here. Cool video, Finns having fun definately. I think it's neat there is an apparent USA car enthusiasm group, odd to realize Chevys and such are exoctic to them, but very cool. Did I really see that W201 diesel beat that Vette? THAT'S somethin'! A W123 in motion is always a sweet sight to me, but seeing one kick out= on dry pavement with that kind of power is admittedly extra delicious! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Good to know that you have it figured out! Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 2:04 PM To: Mercedes mailing list; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery Well I went over to my dads where I stashed the car and loaded it up on the trailer. Decided to use the 6.2 suburban instead of the usual 1 ton 6.5 turbodiesel to haul it back home. Boy is there a difference in towing. With the 6.5 turbo, I dont even know there is a fully loaded trailer hooked on the back. With the 6.2, I know its there. Still tows fine though. Anyways, back to the 380. Barely had enough power to load on the trailer. Once home, I took the air cleaner off and fired her up. Of course wouldnt rev up past about 2k in neutral. Brought out the gas can and just putting the nozzle over the throttle body cause it to be able to rev up. just from the fumes. Poured a couple of drops down it and she revved all the way up. The conclusion is the filter has to be plugged up. I guess running it so lean trying to keep up speed was enough to superheat the exhaust. Doesnt appear anything is wrong with the exhaust that I can tell. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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at least I hope I do, that sure looks like conclusive evidence to me. Trampas wrote: Good to know that you have it figured out! Trampas -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However there are other possibilities such as blocked screen in the fuel tank (not likely due to the suddenness of the problem). Weak fuel pump (not likely due to the suddenness of the problem). From there things get more tricky (more likely). Is it the CIS or CIS/E (K or KE) jetronic injection system? What troubles me is the suddenness of the problem (am I repeating myself?), if it was filter related I would expect a gradual loss of performance unless some really filthy fuel went into the system. The oilers will agree that blocked filters come on slowly and not just one day I was zipping along and the next day it was no go. Agreed that if the engine revs with external fuel delivery then ignition and air supply problems can be ruled out, so back to the fuel system. Have you checked the throttle linkages to ensure they can move their full amount of travel (the throttle flap should move about 80 degrees)? Have you checked the sensor plate for ease of movement? When pushed down there should be slight resistance all the way down and then should snap shut. You can also push down the sensor plate with the motor idling, it should stall. The only real way of diagnosing the system is with fuel pressure gauges, which I don't have. Anyway you can try changing fuel filters but I have a feeling there might be bigger probs. This is a nice overview of the system http://www.auto-solve.com/mech_inj.htm some more things that could be wrong http://www.forparts.com/techbosKjectronic.htm Hendrik - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery Good to know that you have it figured out! Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 2:04 PM To: Mercedes mailing list; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery Well I went over to my dads where I stashed the car and loaded it up on the trailer. Decided to use the 6.2 suburban instead of the usual 1 ton 6.5 turbodiesel to haul it back home. Boy is there a difference in towing. With the 6.5 turbo, I dont even know there is a fully loaded trailer hooked on the back. With the 6.2, I know its there. Still tows fine though. Anyways, back to the 380. Barely had enough power to load on the trailer. Once home, I took the air cleaner off and fired her up. Of course wouldnt rev up past about 2k in neutral. Brought out the gas can and just putting the nozzle over the throttle body cause it to be able to rev up. just from the fumes. Poured a couple of drops down it and she revved all the way up. The conclusion is the filter has to be plugged up. I guess running it so lean trying to keep up speed was enough to superheat the exhaust. Doesnt appear anything is wrong with the exhaust that I can tell. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
The linkage all moves fine. The filter has not been changed so its probably about 90% sure to be the problem. Thats the first step for sure. Its CIS/K I think, but not sure. And yes, the sensor plate feels just like its supposed to. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However there are other possibilities such as blocked screen in the fuel tank (not likely due to the suddenness of the problem). Weak fuel pump (not likely due to the suddenness of the problem). From there things get more tricky (more likely). Is it the CIS or CIS/E (K or KE) jetronic injection system? What troubles me is the suddenness of the problem (am I repeating myself?), if it was filter related I would expect a gradual loss of performance unless some really filthy fuel went into the system. The oilers will agree that blocked filters come on slowly and not just one day I was zipping along and the next day it was no go. Agreed that if the engine revs with external fuel delivery then ignition and air supply problems can be ruled out, so back to the fuel system. Have you checked the throttle linkages to ensure they can move their full amount of travel (the throttle flap should move about 80 degrees)? Have you checked the sensor plate for ease of movement? When pushed down there should be slight resistance all the way down and then should snap shut. You can also push down the sensor plate with the motor idling, it should stall. The only real way of diagnosing the system is with fuel pressure gauges, which I don't have. Anyway you can try changing fuel filters but I have a feeling there might be bigger probs. This is a nice overview of the system http://www.auto-solve.com/mech_inj.htm some more things that could be wrong http://www.forparts.com/techbosKjectronic.htm Hendrik - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery Good to know that you have it figured out! Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 2:04 PM To: Mercedes mailing list; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery Well I went over to my dads where I stashed the car and loaded it up on the trailer. Decided to use the 6.2 suburban instead of the usual 1 ton 6.5 turbodiesel to haul it back home. Boy is there a difference in towing. With the 6.5 turbo, I dont even know there is a fully loaded trailer hooked on the back. With the 6.2, I know its there. Still tows fine though. Anyways, back to the 380. Barely had enough power to load on the trailer. Once home, I took the air cleaner off and fired her up. Of course wouldnt rev up past about 2k in neutral. Brought out the gas can and just putting the nozzle over the throttle body cause it to be able to rev up. just from the fumes. Poured a couple of drops down it and she revved all the way up. The conclusion is the filter has to be plugged up. I guess running it so lean trying to keep up speed was enough to superheat the exhaust. Doesnt appear anything is wrong with the exhaust that I can tell. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
The oilers will agree that blocked filters come on slowly and not just one day I was zipping along and the next day it was no go. Actually one day about 2 years into owning my 240D I noticed a SEVERE reduction in power that changing the filters fixed right away. I'd let the tank get much lower than ever before a day or two before and I guess it just took a day to really pack all the crud into the filter. A 240D with a bad filter is a DRAG. -Curt - Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jan 01 23:22:26 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EtCWw-0003Qt-G9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:22:26 + Received: from dogear.com ([206.63.94.251]) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k01NMg76007938 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 1 Jan 2006 15:22:42 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 15:22:24 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Sun, 01 Jan 2006 15:22:42 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 23:22:26 - Warpage? You did put a surface plate on it while it was apart, didn't you? I did nothing. The head went to the shop and came back 'done'. The block was sleeved by them, and honed, but that was it. The forest of studs poking out of the block were not removed, so obviously no flatness test was done. -- Jim
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Yes a reduction in power but without load the motor will still go to the redline, that's about 1500rpm in a 240D isn't it? Hendrik - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The oilers will agree that blocked filters come on slowly and not just one day I was zipping along and the next day it was no go. Actually one day about 2 years into owning my 240D I noticed a SEVERE reduction in power that changing the filters fixed right away. I'd let the tank get much lower than ever before a day or two before and I guess it just took a day to really pack all the crud into the filter. A 240D with a bad filter is a DRAG. -Curt - Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
Hopefully yes but don't get too excited, if you where talking diesel engine I would agree but seeing as this is not.. Anyway keep us up to date. Also I think round about 1985 the change over to KE started, the KE systems have an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system and a pile more electrical crap. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The linkage all moves fine. The filter has not been changed so its probably about 90% sure to be the problem. Thats the first step for sure. Its CIS/K I think, but not sure. And yes, the sensor plate feels just like its supposed to. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However
Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery
this one does have an o2 sensor. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Hopefully yes but don't get too excited, if you where talking diesel engine I would agree but seeing as this is not.. Anyway keep us up to date. Also I think round about 1985 the change over to KE started, the KE systems have an oxygen sensor in the exhaust system and a pile more electrical crap. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the warp drive mystery The linkage all moves fine. The filter has not been changed so its probably about 90% sure to be the problem. Thats the first step for sure. Its CIS/K I think, but not sure. And yes, the sensor plate feels just like its supposed to. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well...it may be the filter. If it is old, change it. However ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net