Re: Mersenne: S recycling

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
B: Cycling before the P-1th iteration is unlikely in its own right. I thought we had more or less worked out (not formally proved - but a solid argument) At the time, Chris Nash said: Who, me? I did a lot of hand-waving... Peter-Lawrence Montgomery followed up with a couple of

Re: Mersenne: ECM on P773

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
"David A. Miller" wrote: In response to a recent suggestion by Paul Leyland, I've been focusing my ECM work on P773. I checked George's ECM status page tonight, and it lists an astonishing 7210 completed curves at B1=11E6. Is this an error, or has someone been putting a ton of machines to

Re: Mersenne: 35 exponents left on range 3310-3960

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
At 09:56 PM 6/15/99 -0700, Rudy Ruiz wrote: Notwithstanding this, I believe that those 35 souls that are still owing exponents, should be looked upon. Perhaps some have completely stalled. The computer might not be connected to the internet anymore or some funny mishap might be preventing them

Mersenne: Re: Poaching

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
P.S. - Nice to see that GIMPSers aren't cold calculating mathematicians only! Mathematicians don't have to be cold or uninteresting. Our maths teacher cycles a 540km race every year, puts Zalo (that's the stuff you do your dishwashing with in Norway) in her hair to increase the speed and is

Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #579

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
On Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 10:01:04AM -0700, Mersenne Digest wrote: This is why George no longer supports it in the CPU check boxes. I wonder how long it will be before he drops 486's. Hopefully there will be a while to -- my 486s are all performing excellent factoring. ---snip--- Could I

RE: OT: Mersenne: ARM Licenses

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
[... clipped ARM9E core license press release--by Lucent ...] That sounds like it would make a nice disk for my laptop. I wonder if I could get it to do something in it's idle time? :-) The ARM are interesting processors. They're great for embedded applications-- which is where

Mersenne: Another bug question..

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
Hello all, sorry for bringing this up again, but there´s one more question about the v17 bug on my mind and I don´t remember it being asked/answered before (I may have missed it). Would a doublecheck with v17 on an exponent 4.2M result in the same (wrong) residue as the first (wrong) test?

Mersenne: assigment and manual check in

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
Hi everybody! The large amount of mail about assignments and overdue exponents move me to check how things goes for me. I join GIMPS some time by sending email to Georges who give me some ranges. I send him the result then switch to the primenet manual check in form when I knew about it.

Re: Mersenne: 35 exponents left on range 3310-3960

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
Hi, At 09:56 PM 6/15/99 -0700, Rudy Ruiz wrote: however I must say that the speed at which the last dredges of exponents in a range (3310K-3960K) are reclaimed is as slow as it can be. Most of these have been given to a reliable version 14 user who is not operating under primenet control. So,

Mersenne: interesting Mathematicians (was poaching)

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
P.S. - Nice to see that GIMPSers aren't cold calculating mathematicians only! Mathematicians don't have to be cold or uninteresting. Boy, That's for sure! Galois died in a gun fight at the age of 21. Newton was one of the biggest assholes of all time. Leibniz was an alcoholic and a

Re: Mersenne: interesting Mathematicians

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
Norbert Weiner was one of the most inept people of all time (I'm sure you've all heard the story of when he went to the wrong house...) I haven't Taken verbatim from the Linux fortune file: Norbert Weiner was the subject of many dotty professor stories. Weiner was, in fact, very absent

Re: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #579

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
On 16 Jun 99, at 0:25, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: This is why George no longer supports it in the CPU check boxes. I wonder how long it will be before he drops 486's. Hopefully there will be a while to -- my 486s are all performing excellent factoring. Well, you don't _have_ to update

Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #580

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 06:21:54AM -0700, Mersenne Digest wrote: Also, if a is co-prime to n, a^T=1 mod n 2 is obviously co-prime to n, so 2^T=1 mod n Excuse me if I'm very stupid here, but isn't 1 mod n = 1 for _any_ n? We are talking about the remainder of a division here, right? If

RE: OT: Mersenne: ARM Licenses

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
I believe some of the current PDAs use StrongARM at speeds approaching 200 MHz. They have no floating point. There is at least one LL test client written for StrongARM. I've heard of prototypes and proof of concept devices, but no actual products. The only product that I'm aware of that

Mersenne: Thoughts on Merced / IA-64

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
I was just perusing the IA-64 docs that came out last month...I came up with a few thoughts on how it would be a GREAT mersenne prime CPU: - 128 FPU registers (126 usable) 96 of them are rotating (not stacked) which I imagine could be used to the code's advantage quite well, holding more data

RE: OT: Mersenne: ARM Licenses

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
Did anyone else see the news story about the PlayStation II? Apparently the US government has classified it as "strategic ordnance" because its theoretical processing power falls into the "supercomputer" range!!! Yeah, the US gov is a little out of date on these things. Distributed

Mersenne: $1000 supercomputer

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
I thought this was interesting... http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9906/15/supercomp.idg/index.html If you don't have time to read it, here are some quotes: "Within 18 months, you may be able to put the equivalent of today's supercomputer on your desktop--for about $1000" "The new computer

RE: Mersenne: Thoughts on Merced / IA-64

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
-Original Message- From: Aaron Blosser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 4:53 PM To: Mersenne@Base. Com Subject: Mersenne: Thoughts on Merced / IA-64 I was just perusing the IA-64 docs that came out last month...I came up with a few thoughts on how it

RE: Mersenne: Thoughts on Merced / IA-64

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
- 128 FPU registers (126 usable) 96 of them are rotating (not stacked) which I imagine could be used to the code's advantage quite well, holding more data in registers during the FFT Eh, it would only really help if you wanted to unroll quite a few loops... I think that as can been

Mersenne Digest V1 #581

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
Mersenne DigestWednesday, June 16 1999Volume 01 : Number 581 -- Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Ashton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #579 From: "Brian J

Re: Mersenne: $1000 supercomputer

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
They seem to be developing a line of machines. I assume the $1000 price is for the low-end machine and the 10^11 BIPS rating is for the high-end machine. It would be interesting to see the BIPS of the low-end and the price of the high-end machines. Brian Beuning Gary Diehl wrote: I

Mersenne: Finite or infinite?

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
Some considerable while back, there was a lively discussion as to the _total_ number of Mersenne primes. I still believe that the number is finite, in contrast to what appears to be the majority view: that there is an infinity of Mersenne primes out there waiting to be discovered. One

Re: Mersenne: interesting Mathematicians

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
At 04:09 PM 6/16/99 -0400, lrwiman wrote: Taken verbatim from the Linux fortune file: Norbert Weiner was the subject of many dotty professor stories. snip Version by Weiner's daughter: http://www.tiac.net/users/cri/weiner.hrml I guess she doesn't run Linux ;-) --Luke

Re: Mersenne: interesting Mathematicians

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
I suppose it's obvious, but the referenced link should be http://www.tiac.net/users/cri/weiner.html Luke Welsh wrote: At 04:09 PM 6/16/99 -0400, lrwiman wrote: Taken verbatim from the Linux fortune file: Norbert Weiner was the subject of many dotty professor stories. snip Version by

Re: Mersenne: Re: NTPrime and proth

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
At 11:13 PM 6/16/99 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: I'm not sure why you want to run two different projects. I'm afraid you'll have to choose -- running them both at the same time will make _both_ slower (due to increased OS overhead). I don't think it hurts much. I've had both running at

Re: Mersenne: Finite or infinite?

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
At 01:36 PM 6/17/99 +1200, Halliday, Ian wrote: Some considerable while back, there was a lively discussion as to the _total_ number of Mersenne primes. In all likelihood, there are an infinite number of Mersenne primes. +--+ | Jud "program first

Mersenne: Z80s Are Everywhere!

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
guess you might even be able to find the odd one [Z80 processor] still in use somewhere Actually, the Z80 is still alive and kicking. You might even have one in your pocket right now. Texas Instruments uses the Z80 in many of its calculators, including the wildly successful TI-85. S.T.L.

Re: Mersenne: $1000 supercomputer

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Gary Diehl wrote: I thought this was interesting... http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9906/15/supercomp.idg/index.html If you don't have time to read it, here are some quotes: "Within 18 months, you may be able to put the equivalent of today's supercomputer on your

Re: Mersenne: Thoughts on Merced / IA-64

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
At 03:52 PM 6/16/99 -0600, Aaron Blosser wrote: - 82bit FPU (??) 82 bits? It is time to go to 128 bits! +--+ | Jud "program first and think later" McCranie | +--+

RE: Mersenne: Z80s Are Everywhere!

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
guess you might even be able to find the odd one [Z80 processor] still in use somewhere Actually, the Z80 is still alive and kicking. You might even have one in your pocket right now. Texas Instruments uses the Z80 in many of its calculators, including the wildly successful TI-85. Okay,

RE: OT: Mersenne: ARM Licenses

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
I know a lot of Z80s were manufactured, and I guess you might even be able to find the odd one still in use somewhere (NASA's immensely successful Voyager spacecraft use an even more primitive microprocessor), but I reckon that, for LL tests, the combined power of all the Z80s ever

Mersenne: RE: Mersenne Digest V1 #581

1999-06-16 Thread Anonymous
Would a doublecheck with v17 on an exponent 4.2M result in the same (wrong) residue as the first (wrong) test? Yes. Now, I when I check in the Internet PrimeNet Individual Account, it gives me no credit for that work. Where theses exponents given to someone else or is there another place