Re: Mersenne: Re: Facelift (round 2)

2000-04-19 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On 18 Apr 00, at 14:32, John R Pierce wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 03:24:40PM -0400, George Woltman wrote: How about www.microsoft.com which has dropdown menus from the banner at the top of the page. Isn't that some weird kind of ActiveX or other Microsoft proprietary tech?

Mersenne: Re: Facelift (round 2)

2000-04-18 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 09:54:08AM -0600, Alan Vidmar wrote: I think you are on the right track. Take a look at this web site for an example of what can be done without frames but still have a nice looking side menu on all pages. Tables, Tables, Tables. What about CSS? Take a look at

Re: Mersenne: Re: Facelift (round 2)

2000-04-18 Thread John R Pierce
What about CSS? Take a look at http://zicon.cjb.net/ -- no frames, no FONT tags, no tables, but it still looks great. unluckily, only MSIE seems to implement CSS properly. Netscape is way behind. Personally, I like to design my webpages so they work just fine on NS 3.0 or IE4. I avoid as

Mersenne: Re: Facelift (round 2)

2000-04-18 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 02:17:54PM -0400, Chip Lynch wrote: I'm sure there's a way to force them beneath the NAV bar, but I can't think of it... used to have this sort of problem all the time. Have you tried an HR or a solid BREAK tag? I'm rnning out of time to experiment myself. What about br

Mersenne: Re: Facelift (round 2)

2000-04-18 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 08:50:10PM +0200, Hoogendoorn, Sander wrote: If you use a seperate frame for the menu you only need to download the gifs once This should have been done by the browser cache anyway. A browser without a cache today is, well, quite useless. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage:

Mersenne: Re: Facelift (round 2)

2000-04-18 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 03:24:40PM -0400, George Woltman wrote: How about www.microsoft.com which has dropdown menus from the banner at the top of the page. Isn't that some weird kind of ActiveX or other Microsoft proprietary tech? I read this somewhere br clear="all" or some such. Not `all',

Mersenne: Re: Facelift (round 2)

2000-04-18 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 02:32:01PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: actually, I believe its done with client side JavaScript. Anyways, it doesn't work in NS, and NS _invented_ JS ;-) /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/sneeze/

Re: Mersenne: Re: Facelift (round 2)

2000-04-18 Thread Eric Hahn
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 02:32:01PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: actually, I believe its done with client side JavaScript. Anyways, it doesn't work in NS, and NS _invented_ JS ;-) That's because the way MS wrote the JS... MS has a variable for the drop-down toolbar