Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Brenstein wrote: But as far as I am concerned it is a kludge and a kludge that anyone writing such plugins must always remember to follow. If I open Plugin Manager and see something marked as a library, it should be a library. May be I am a purist, but since plugins are new to MC, it would

Re: Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Wouter
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Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Wouter
Oops typo, can must be can't, sorry... Please review the credit for your contributions that I added in B4 and let me know if you feel it's appropriate (Help-Licensing, Version History tab). Also, please consider updating the Read Me to include a descriptions of this new active plugin feature.

RE: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
Auto-open plugins -- plugins that are opened automatically at startup. Any MetaCard or Revolution stack can be set to be an auto-open plugin. The standard sequence of preOpen and open messages is sent when the stack opens. (new) Active plugins -- plugins that are executed automatically at

RE: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
Could they also be done via the auto-open type: on preOpenStack doMyOneStartupThing close this stack end preOpenStack Cheers Monte Well, Monte, and how do you know whether preOpenStack is to run the doMyOneStartupThing and close or whether to open the stack properly (see the example as I

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
Robert Brenstein wrote: But as far as I am concerned it is a kludge and a kludge that anyone writing such plugins must always remember to follow. If I open Plugin Manager and see something marked as a library, it should be a library. May be I am a purist, but since plugins are new to MC, it would

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
I was hoping to post the B5 build you sent, but it crashes my Stuffit Expander: I double-checked my Stuffit installation by downloading a fresh copy of B4, which decompressed without error. While I haven't had issues with other attachments I can't rule out a Mozilla email issue (I'm testing

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Wouter
I found it at last, I must have been blind. But... (Help-Licensing, Version History tab). I didn't think about the help menu and started with the help button on the home stack. This way you reach a license button which opens the Licensing Metacard stack where no version history button is. May be

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
Okay, I promise this to be the last post from me today. I have already used more bandwidth than normal :) I split my reply to Richard's long email to cover different aspects more clearly. For Rev compatibility it's useful to support the auto-open option, and with preOpenStack as a hook the

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Brenstein wrote: Okay, I promise this to be the last post from me today. I have already used more bandwidth than normal :) I split my reply to Richard's long email to cover different aspects more clearly. For Rev compatibility it's useful to support the auto-open option, and with

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wouter wrote: I found it at last, I must have been blind. But... (Help-Licensing, Version History tab). I didn't think about the help menu and started with the help button on the home stack. This way you reach a license button which opens the Licensing Metacard stack where no version history

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wouter wrote: That' s what I was looking for, version history, but unfortunately I still can find it. May be an embedded version history in the script of the Home stack or somewhere near would be a nice addition to make sure there always is a guide to what has changed since the previous

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Brenstein wrote: Why did you add the library as plugin type? Because two people presented an argument that there may be times when a stack should only be libraried at startup but not when opening the stack. Moreoever, most good libraries are designed to be initialized with start using

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Wouter
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Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Shari
Most of the handful of people who still use the MC IDE have businesses based around it. They're mostly building applications, not IDE components. The relative few who do make publicly-distributed plugins usually make them for Rev, or at least Rev-compatible. As one who is still using MC as it

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wouter wrote: Modifying the Home stack is problematic, for reasons I can get into more if needed. The plan for the moment is to update the Home stack when it becomes necessary to do so with the next license change. I think I'll need some code from Dr. Raney for that, and he may be back in Colorado

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
Sorry for breaking my promise to keep quiet, but either I presented my case badly or you are misreading my words, Richard. For Rev compatibility it's useful to support the auto-open option, and with preOpenStack as a hook the world is the scripter's oyster. But beyond the most basic

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Shari wrote: Been a busy girl, just took two months off to marry my IBM fella :-) Congratulations. Good to see you back here. You've been missed. Have not joined the Rev list as my version is from before the marriage of MC and Rev. The Rev list is where the meaty language discussion happens

Re: commandKeyDown

2004-05-07 Thread Ray G. Miller
From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I propose removing those but keeping the optionKey section for script access: on commandKeyDown which if the optionKey is down then switch which case S edit script of the topStack break case C edit script of this card of

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Robert Brenstein
Robert Brenstein wrote: Why did you add the library as plugin type? Because two people presented an argument that there may be times when a stack should only be libraried at startup but not when opening the stack. Moreoever, most good libraries are designed to be initialized with start using

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Scott Rossi
Once upon a time this was all so simple: folks wanted a menu to provide convenient access to extra utilities, and decided it would be useful to also have the option of having some of those automatically opened if they choose. At that point, everything else possible with the engine is

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Fri, 07 May 2004 12:32:28 -0700 Scott Rossi wrote: [snip] The MC IDE is supposed to be after all open source now, so I think it should be possible to develop new features and then have folks try them out. [snip] Does exist a wish list for new features for the mc ide? For example, i've

sending mail from MC

2004-05-07 Thread Rick Rice
Is it possible to mail directly from a MC stack? My users will complete several activities and a final grade will be given. This grade, users name, ID and several other bits of information are put into a variable. How do I have this variable mailed to me? Does anyone have the script to do

Re: sending mail from MC

2004-05-07 Thread Pierre Sahores
'Evening Rick, Yes. In between other ways, Sao Sean's libSMTP 2 great stack is the perfect tool to handle such kind of services. Name: libSMTP #Version : 1.5.0 #Build : 2003.06.24.1 #Authour : Shao Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] #Website : http://shaosean.tk/ Best, Pierre Le 8

Re: Plugins, fonts

2004-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Brenstein wrote: Once upon a time this was all so simple: folks wanted a menu to provide convenient access to extra utilities, and decided it would be useful to also have the option of having some of those automatically opened if they choose. At that point, everything else possible