RE: Metacard beginner question
I installed Mozilla 1.2.1 and it worked the first time around... There's a problem elsewhere... reality check complete... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Metacard beginner question On 12/4/02 3:42 PM, Mr X wrote: just upgrade to netscape 7 or downgrade to explorer ;)) I get the same blue screen with Mozilla 1.2.1 -- which is similar to netscape 7. People are not likely to download your stack if they have to download and install a new browser to do it. Like me, they will just skip it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Metacard beginner question
it's similar but it's not like Netscape 7 because NS7 works! Note NS7 even sees an extra picture you dont see in IE! I've never liked Netscape for their bugs and it still seems true today! But I will download Mozilla to see... Does www.phpnuke.org work for you or do you just see also a blue screen? I need to know this in case it's a bug in my phpnuke installation... does http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=21 work for your browser? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Metacard beginner question On 12/4/02 3:42 PM, Mr X wrote: just upgrade to netscape 7 or downgrade to explorer ;)) I get the same blue screen with Mozilla 1.2.1 -- which is similar to netscape 7. People are not likely to download your stack if they have to download and install a new browser to do it. Like me, they will just skip it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
stack freeze when cloning substack on Mac
This has always worked fine in windows but appears to be a problem in OS 9.0.4 with the 2.4.3 engine. I have a simple little substack with one field which I clone then give different names and contents to the clone depending on what opens it. The cloning occurs within a function to which I pass the name of the cloned stack, its rect, and the text which will go in the field. It appears that when I invoke this command with a popup or pulldown style btn, the stack freezes. I can see the cursor blinking in the user editable fld of the cloned stack but, I can't select anything in the fld and I can't close or resize the substack . I can move the mouse cursor over the still popped-up contents of the btn and see the different lines hilite as I pass over them but, clicking doesn't make it unpop. Clicking on the main stack doesn't bring it to the foreground. The Mac menu bar doesn't respond. The only way to get out of this is to click on the desktop, another application open on the desktop, or a finder window. Is this a bug or do I have a scripting problem? Rich Mooney Payne Sparkman Mfg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: stack freeze when cloning substack on Mac
have you tried getting the result or the try handlers? this may give you the answer... verify that the stack you call does exist (mac is not windoze), etc... also, try to make it work in 2.5ax... just to check... -Original Message- From: Rich Mooney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 December 2002 16:06 To: MetaCard Mail List Subject: stack freeze when cloning substack on Mac This has always worked fine in windows but appears to be a problem in OS 9.0.4 with the 2.4.3 engine. I have a simple little substack with one field which I clone then give different names and contents to the clone depending on what opens it. The cloning occurs within a function to which I pass the name of the cloned stack, its rect, and the text which will go in the field. It appears that when I invoke this command with a popup or pulldown style btn, the stack freezes. I can see the cursor blinking in the user editable fld of the cloned stack but, I can't select anything in the fld and I can't close or resize the substack . I can move the mouse cursor over the still popped-up contents of the btn and see the different lines hilite as I pass over them but, clicking doesn't make it unpop. Clicking on the main stack doesn't bring it to the foreground. The Mac menu bar doesn't respond. The only way to get out of this is to click on the desktop, another application open on the desktop, or a finder window. Is this a bug or do I have a scripting problem? Rich Mooney Payne Sparkman Mfg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Dumb sort question
This might be a dumb response, but if you are generating the data, can you generate it in a transposed form? a,b,c,d 1,2,3,4 a,1 b,2 c,3 d,4 -ml On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 04:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dumb sort question But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of line 4 are sorted numeric ascending, and (that's important) items of other lines being moved according to the new position of each item of line 4 ? Mark Luetzelschwab (512) 232 9477 (v) Database Coordinator (512) 232 2322 (f) Texas Ctr for Reading and Language Arts [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.texasreading.org ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Metacard beginner question
On 12/5/02 12:53 AM, Mr X wrote: Does www.phpnuke.org work for you or do you just see also a blue screen? It works. does http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=21 work for your browser? Yes. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Dumb sort question
for those on Macs, switch from Rinaldi does that real fast... www.xcmdfactory.com click on xcmds and then find switch... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Luetzelschwab Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dumb sort question This might be a dumb response, but if you are generating the data, can you generate it in a transposed form? a,b,c,d 1,2,3,4 a,1 b,2 c,3 d,4 -ml On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 04:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dumb sort question But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of line 4 are sorted numeric ascending, and (that's important) items of other lines being moved according to the new position of each item of line 4 ? Mark Luetzelschwab (512) 232 9477 (v) Database Coordinator(512) 232 2322 (f) Texas Ctr for Reading and Language Arts [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.texasreading.org ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Answer File Command
My apologies for the last message; I forgot to include a subject. Let me try again Hello everyone, I'm writing a handler to open files and restrict the choices to text files. answer file Choose your data file with filter TEXT When I use the filter above in OS X, AppleWorks text files are recognized but plain text files are not (they're dimmed). I'd like to be able to choose among all files with a .txt extension. What am I doing wrong? Greg ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Dumb sort question
Mr X wrote: This might be a dumb response, but if you are generating the data, can you generate it in a transposed form? a,b,c,d 1,2,3,4 a,1 b,2 c,3 d,4 Would the transpose function do what you need? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Answer File Command
Gregory Lypny wrote: I'm writing a handler to open files and restrict the choices to text files. answer file Choose your data file with filter TEXT When I use the filter above in OS X, AppleWorks text files are recognized but plain text files are not (they're dimmed). I'd like to be able to choose among all files with a .txt extension. What am I doing wrong? 'TEXT' would only be used with the type keyword: answer file Choose your data file... of type TEXT Filters are used as string matches like this: answer file Choose your data file... with filter *.txt Also, for cross-platform compatibility you may want to use three periods rather than the ellipss character at the end of your prompt. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Field Keyboard Functions
I want to port from Hypercard to Metacard a set of easy keyboard shortcuts to move the cursor around and select text in a field. They require the left hand to press combinations of shift, ctrl and option (note: I use a Mac) and the right hand to press H, J,K,L,; or I. Some scripts are working fine, but others aren't. For example, I cannot trap ctrl-option-J. In fact, when I press ctrl-option-J, the text at the end of the line that I'm on disappears and some hidden something-or-other(?) is added to the end of the field. If I press ctrl-option-J or similar (ctrl-J, shift-ctrl-J, shift-ctrl-option-j) over and over, the computer crashes. My script is: on controlkeydown what put the shiftkey into s put the optionkey into o if what is in HJKLI:; then case J if s is down then if o is down then -- script to select text back a word else -- script to move cursor back a word end if else if o is down then -- script to select text back a character else -- script to move cursor back a character end if end if break case K etc. Any ideas what might be going wrong? And if any intrepid souls want to test it: try pressing over and over a random combination of: ctrl-j, ctrl-option-j, shift-ctrl-j, shift-ctrl-option-j. Does your computer crash? Or is it just my computer? I'm using OS9. It crashes when I'm running either version 2.4.3 or version 2.5A8. Thanks. Fred Moyer ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Field Keyboard Functions
On 12/5/02 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My script is: on controlkeydown what put the shiftkey into s put the optionkey into o if what is in HJKLI:; then case J if s is down then if o is down then -- script to select text back a word else -- script to move cursor back a word end if else if o is down then -- script to select text back a character else -- script to move cursor back a character end if end if break case K etc. Any ideas what might be going wrong? You are mixing up control structures. The case statement has to be part of a switch structure. It should be like this: if what is in HJKLI:; then switch what -- need this case J -- stuff break case K -- stuff break end switch -- need this too end if Actually, you don't even need the if part; the switch structure itself will test for the contents of what. So you could just do it this way: on controlkeydown what switch what case J -- stuff break case K -- stuff break default -- this should probably be in there too pass controlkeydown end switch end controlkeydown -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Field Keyboard Functions
Oops. I actually did have the Switch and Default and End Switch lines in there -- but forgot to type them into my email letter. To be more complete, what I have is: on controlkeydown what if what is in JKL:;i and the selectedchunk is not empty then put the selectedchunk into sc put the selectedloc into sl put the shiftkey into s put the optionkey into o put last word of sc into fieldNumber put fld fieldnumber into holder switch what case j if s is down then if o is down then --stuff else --stuff end if else if o is down then --stuff else --stuff end if end if break case k --stuff . . . default pass controlkeydown end switch break else pass controlkeydown end if end controlkeydown In a message dated 12/5/02 3:02:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 12/5/02 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My script is: on controlkeydown what put the shiftkey into s put the optionkey into o if what is in HJKLI:; then case J if s is down then if o is down then -- script to select text back a word else -- script to move cursor back a word end if else if o is down then -- script to select text back a character else -- script to move cursor back a character end if end if break case K etc. Any ideas what might be going wrong? You are mixing up control structures. The case statement has to be part of a switch structure. It should be like this: if what is in HJKLI:; then switch what -- need this case J -- stuff break case K -- stuff break end switch -- need this too end if Actually, you don't even need the if part; the switch structure itself will test for the contents of what. So you could just do it this way: on controlkeydown what switch what case J -- stuff break case K -- stuff break default -- this should probably be in there too pass controlkeydown end switch end controlkeydown ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
on 12/4/02 8:44 PM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve is also complex. Hi MetaCard List, Just in contrast to words of Andu. Words of Andu compliment not criticism!! Good wine takes long time. Oh Andu, Then I am sorry. I have read your words in wrong way. :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina xcmd
on 12/5/02 11:08 PM, Rodney Tamblyn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Valentina XCMD ? Where you have read about this. OK, perhaps the name confuses me here. The product is called vxcmd which I assumed stands for valentina xcmd. Now from my HyperCard/Supercard programming days, I took this to imply that there was an xcmd (or xfcn) code resource floating around somewhere. Now I've examined the example stacks with ResEdit I see that in fact there is just a code resource, not an XCMD, in the resource fork. Hi Rodney, Let me tell a little history. During last 2 years we have had Valentina XCMD which was able work With HyperCard, SuperCard and MetaCard and was made as xfcn. But later MetaCard developers did ask to make special version adopted to metaCard which will be able for example work with binary data and arrays of MetaCard. To be able do this I was need switch to CODE resource (as required by MC). So now we have VXCMD for HyperCard based on xfcn resource VXCMD for MetaCard based on CODE resource -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
We're spoiled!
Am porting a project I started in Hypercard to Metacard. As the project was far from complete, I'm trying to get back up to speed on where I left off and what I was doing with it. So I'm going back and forth between MC and HC until I'm up to speed with it. Talk about being spoiled now! I haven't worked in HC since migrating to MC. And one thing that I miss like bloody heck in HC is the Control Browser. Gosh, to have a list of every object on a card, in a stack, in a background... what a pain when it isn't there! I miss the Object Editor too. You don't realize the changes until you're away awhile, and go back... Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Answer File Command
Try answer file Choose your data file with filter *.txt This doesn't work for me on OS X. I think what we need is a combined filter like: TEXT|*.txt. This way we don't need to test the platform and it would work properly on OS X also. Just my 2 cents (1 cent US ;-) Monte ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Answer File Command
On 12/5/02 12:05 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote: My apologies for the last message; I forgot to include a subject. Let me try again Hello everyone, I'm writing a handler to open files and restrict the choices to text files. answer file Choose your data file with filter TEXT When I use the filter above in OS X, AppleWorks text files are recognized but plain text files are not (they're dimmed). I'd like to be able to choose among all files with a .txt extension. What am I doing wrong? This works for me in OS X: answer file Choose a file: of type TEXT I see all types of files, both those with .txt suffixes and those without, including BBEdit files, text files created by 2 different browsers, and MC-generated text files. However, I have noticed several times that OS X doesn't always recognize files right away. There have been times when a file was dimmed in the file dialog that shouldn't be. These are almost always new files, just downloaded or just created. Sometimes moving the file to the desktop and back will fix it, sometimes it takes hours before the Finder sees it as the right file type. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Answer File Command
On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 06:50 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: This doesn't work for me on OS X. I think what we need is a combined filter like: TEXT|*.txt. This way we don't need to test the platform and it would work properly on OS X also. YES! (Whoops. I'm having trouble keeping my activity to lurking.) Dar Scott ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Answer File Command
Also, you'll notice that when you try to open an unknown file type in OS X and switch the application-chooser popup from "Recommended Applications" to "All Applications", the grayed-out applications remain grayed out... *except* for their icons. Happens every time here on 10.2.1. So the bugginess is clearly an OS thing. However, I have noticed several times that OS X doesn't always "recognize" files right away. There have been times when a file was dimmed in the file dialog that shouldn't be. These are almost always new files, just downloaded or just created. Sometimes moving the file to the desktop and back will fix it, sometimes it takes hours before the Finder "sees" it as the right file type.
Re: xcmd
on 12/6/02 2:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah... I see the confusion. Unfortunately Carbon doesn't necessarily mean runs under Classic. It can also be a mach-o application which is based on Carbon libraries. MetacardCarbon 2.4.3 is both Carbon AND mach-o. It is OSX-only. You need to download the mach-o version of Valentina and set the externals property of your stack to the path of the external. Note that this is the same procedure as using externals for Metacard on Windows and UNIX platforms. For example, put the VXCMD_macho bundle in the same folder as the MetacardCarbon application and type this in the message box: set the externals of this stack to ./VXCMD_macho I use a relative path, as above, to ensure my stacks don't break when installed. Hit return, save, quit, re-open your stack. Brian, but I wonder if this is 100% required ? I have run example stack without this path to external set up. You can find more relevant details about using externals and the externals property in the MetaCard docs. One more tip: once you have successfully installed VXCMD into one stack, you can use the start using command to load that stack from another. HTH. Brian Metacard 2.4.3 is a carbon application. When you install it, the file is called MetacardCarbon. As far as I am aware, there's no macho version of Metacard, unless you count the Darwin version (which is command line only). -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: vxcmd - macho clarification
on 12/6/02 2:33 AM, Rodney Tamblyn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rodney, To clarify what sort of application Metacard is a little further I talked to Scott Raney (author of Metacard). Here's his comments: you've got Apple to thank for the confusion. There are two issues here, the toolkit API and the executable format: Carbon - refreshed version of the old Mac GUI API Cocoa - refreshed version of the old NeXT GUI API Mach-O - native executable format for BSD UNIX (included OS X) CFM - old Mac executable format Both the Darwin and MetaCardCarbon engines are Mach-O format executables. The PPC engine is a CFM executable. Correct, And although 2.4.3 has name MetaCardCarbon, You can go inside of package and find there other name MetaCardCarbonMach-o But, if someone asked you what sort of application Metacard is, wouldn't you call it a Carbon application? Depends on why you were asking. If you were thinking about what kind of external it requires (as Ruslan probably is) the executable format is more important than the API... The point is that it uses the subset of the old OS9 APIs that are supported under OSX, therefore is a Carbon app ie does Carbon imply the underlying code is mach-O? No: you can build a Carbon app either as CFM or Mach-O. Most of them are actually CFM so that you can run the same executable on both OSX and OS9. We switched to Mach-O for 2.4.3 because that format gives you access to things like what we need to do shell() which are hard to get at from a CFM app. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
